your take on pruning with spurs on

Ekka · 19th November 2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Therrin

What do you guys think of wound spray/paint/coating etc?

Snake oil!

For controlling DED at certain times of year though is advisable to prevent infection entering a fresh wound.

However, doesn't help decay, load of BS.

Therrin · 20th November 2007, 11:58 PM

Well in that case I'll not waste any more money on that crap. It's a pain anyway.

Ekka · 21st November 2007, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Therrin

Well in that case I'll not waste any more money on that crap. It's a pain anyway.

They sell a lot of crap you'll discover over the years. And when you get real good at your job, know shit from clay with all this crap around, people will think you're pretty basic!

Like what, you're an arborist, surely you can inject, paint, drill and concrete this tree ... isn't that what it needs.

ropensaddle · 2nd December 2007, 06:42 PM

When I learned I put on spurs and when to top
tied in and pulled overhang not most peoples
first tree. I climbed on them all through the eighties
and the truth as I have seen it the trees heal well
to reasonable spurring. I have done different climbing
since but at times still prefer to gaff. I have seen
climbers that have given gaffs a bad name and after
they go up looks as if a group of grizzly bears climbed
them! I don't wear them most trims but being that
90% of my work consists of removals caused by oak wilt
and pine Beatles I wear them a lot! I personally have never
seen a gaffed tree die as result of spurring I have seen trees
that had a worse condition die and was blamed on spurring!
Most trees I have used gafs on were on a five year trim cycle
and old gaf marks were barely visible if visible ant trees were
healthy as any.

ronnyb · 2nd December 2007, 07:06 PM

What's a palm tree? 8 inches of snow yesterday, plowed for 16 hours straight.

newguy18 · 2nd December 2007, 07:32 PM

You tell me what snow is and we'll tell you what a palm tree is.

ropensaddle · 2nd December 2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

You tell me what snow is and we'll tell you what a palm tree is.

Tell you what newguy just get an old school deep freeze
you know the kind that get five inch thick,put on a jacket
and jump in for a few hours and you will get the idea

I am funnin snow is a blast riding the hood causer sleds etc.
We used to play king of the hill on sleds kind of dangerous
never the less fun!

newguy18 · 2nd December 2007, 08:07 PM

I was just messin too I'm from ohio originally.Now i get cold when it hits 60 out yeah i know i'm a wuss.

Ekka · 3rd December 2007, 03:47 AM

Holy cow.

I just had a look at the world clock thing and Wizzcontinent ... -8C .... THAT'S BLOODY FREEZING!

Around here leave ya beer out it gets too hot to drink, round there it'll burst and look like some-one pissed on the snow.

I dont even think our freezers get that cold, plus the wind chill factor.

You guys must have big wardrobes for all those clothes for those seasons. Me, I got all types of T-Shirts for every season.

So, you climb trees in that and work? How do the saws run in cold like that, rich?

ropensaddle · 3rd December 2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

Holy cow.

I just had a look at the world clock thing and Wizzcontinent ... -8C .... THAT'S BLOODY FREEZING!

Around here leave ya beer out it gets too hot to drink, round there it'll burst and look like some-one pissed on the snow.

I dont even think our freezers get that cold, plus the wind chill factor.

You guys must have big wardrobes for all those clothes for those seasons. Me, I got all types of T-Shirts for every season.

So, you climb trees in that and work? How do the saws run in cold like that, rich?

It truly depends on conditions I have worked in Michigan
and Nebraska and when it is -40 actual with any wind you
even with arctic gear have to work in intervals, meaning
we took turns! Here in Arkansas it gets cold about two months
sometimes more but nothing like the north and midwest as far
as saws in teens you keep them and yourself going wide open
to stay warm

newguy18 · 3rd December 2007, 07:43 AM

i voted on the poll I voted if it makes the climb safer.Hey when it comes down to it if theres no alternative and flat out saftey comes before the tree.I haven't used spikes on a prune job so far and hope I never have to.Oh btw rope don't they make saws with heated handles for people who see weather in the teens?

ropensaddle · 3rd December 2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

i voted on the poll I voted if it makes the climb safer.Hey when it comes down to it if theres no alternative and flat out saftey comes before the tree.I haven't used spikes on a prune job so far and hope I never have to.Oh btw rope don't they make saws with heated handles for people who see weather in the teens?

Yeah but never figured out how to keep warm huddled up to a saw

newguy18 · 3rd December 2007, 09:19 AM

How on earth do you guys climb in all that winter gear?It would be like a christmas story I can't put my arms down.

ropensaddle · 3rd December 2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

How on earth do you guys climb in all that winter gear?It would be like a christmas story I can't put my arms down.

Well you starts out fresh from summer and add a little
more clothes as ye go until ye look like a grizzly baar
and when spring gets here you feel like you are on
springs with all that weight off

newguy18 · 3rd December 2007, 12:20 PM

Do you guys climb like bears too?

View Poll Results: Is it ok to use spurs when prunning ?
ok if used for power line clearence ?	2	3.28%
Ok if the price is cheaper for homeowner ?	2	3.28%
Ok if used a ladder for the frist 20 feet so mark arent seen?	1	1.64%
If spurs make the climb safer it is OK ?	8	13.11%
Only hacks use spikes to prune trees ?	50	81.97%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

20th November 2007, 11:58 PM	#52 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,254	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on Well in that case I'll not waste any more money on that crap. It's a pain anyway. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

2nd December 2007, 06:42 PM	#54 (permalink)
ropensaddle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 53	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on When I learned I put on spurs and when to top tied in and pulled overhang not most peoples first tree. I climbed on them all through the eighties and the truth as I have seen it the trees heal well to reasonable spurring. I have done different climbing since but at times still prefer to gaff. I have seen climbers that have given gaffs a bad name and after they go up looks as if a group of grizzly bears climbed them! I don't wear them most trims but being that 90% of my work consists of removals caused by oak wilt and pine Beatles I wear them a lot! I personally have never seen a gaffed tree die as result of spurring I have seen trees that had a worse condition die and was blamed on spurring! Most trees I have used gafs on were on a five year trim cycle and old gaf marks were barely visible if visible ant trees were healthy as any.

2nd December 2007, 07:06 PM	#55 (permalink)
ronnyb Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 64	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on What's a palm tree? 8 inches of snow yesterday, plowed for 16 hours straight.

2nd December 2007, 07:32 PM	#56 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,616	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on You tell me what snow is and we'll tell you what a palm tree is. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

2nd December 2007, 08:07 PM	#58 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,616	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on I was just messin too I'm from ohio originally.Now i get cold when it hits 60 out yeah i know i'm a wuss. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd December 2007, 03:47 AM	#59 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on Holy cow. I just had a look at the world clock thing and Wizzcontinent ... -8C .... THAT'S BLOODY FREEZING! Around here leave ya beer out it gets too hot to drink, round there it'll burst and look like some-one pissed on the snow. I dont even think our freezers get that cold, plus the wind chill factor. You guys must have big wardrobes for all those clothes for those seasons. Me, I got all types of T-Shirts for every season. So, you climb trees in that and work? How do the saws run in cold like that, rich? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd December 2007, 07:43 AM	#61 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,616	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on i voted on the poll I voted if it makes the climb safer.Hey when it comes down to it if theres no alternative and flat out saftey comes before the tree.I haven't used spikes on a prune job so far and hope I never have to.Oh btw rope don't they make saws with heated handles for people who see weather in the teens? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd December 2007, 09:19 AM	#63 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,616	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on How on earth do you guys climb in all that winter gear?It would be like a christmas story I can't put my arms down. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related Last edited by newguy18 : 3rd December 2007 at 10:27 AM.

3rd December 2007, 12:20 PM	#65 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,616	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on Do you guys climb like bears too? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related