your take on pruning with spurs on

Eric Frei · 9th October 2011, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypsse

Do you know how long ago those spike holes are from? Interesting to see how long it takes for that much decay to set it after being spiked.

I don't but I guess around 5 years old

Joshua Rugg · 27th October 2011, 04:15 AM

cocos plumosa? allways amazes me to see how far decay can spread in a matter of years.

Paul Toivonen · 30th October 2011, 07:44 AM

I answered no spurs on live/removals only.
Some would say, depends how much time/money is on the tree.
Even then, very un-professional it will probably come back on you.

Alex Metzler · 31st October 2011, 02:05 PM

i would say it depends on the circumstances & species specifically, some people have argued that a few spike marks are the equiv of a big chainsaw cut,

i personaly dont wear spikes unless its abslutly nec, (iv used them on rescues) fact is is the nature and angle of a downwards gaff wound s very difficult for the tree to heal over & creates the perfect entrance point for a pest or pathogen esp the lower on the trunk it is, beyond that leaving unsightly gaff marks on a customers tree is plain unprofessional,

isnt our job to care for trees? thin barked trees are obviously less protected & much more vunerable to contusion, but we have evergreens in oregon that have such thick furrowed corky bark sometimes over 4" thick, u couldnt even reach the cambium layer if you tried, the pseudotsuga menziesii (doug fir) & sequoiadendron gigantium (giant sequoia) are both very well insulated trees to name a couple that we work on here, they grow with stretches of straight trunk for 80' even more, the amount of time you would spend putting into riggin all the hardwear up & everything in putting a line up to ascend w jumars, you could have climbed the tree (slightly invasively) three times & saved the frustation of using all that fancy gear, id say it boils down to which species can handle the spikes wo causing damage, and in circumstances which it would be much less safe or unethical to climb wo them.

Tammy1949 · 5th November 2011, 01:58 PM

I quit subcontracting to one man whom I saw using a ladder to 20' to hide the gouges.

Daniel Janjic · 28th November 2011, 07:37 AM

Walking through a new clients garden I noticed a telltale pattern on a Euc, and asked the client if any work had been done on the tree, she replied "not in the two years we have been here.."

There was no apparent wound wood around the scars, will keep an eye on it.

Just can't believe someone would do that to prune two 70mm limbs at 5m..

I really like the position of the tap too!

Joshua Rugg · 28th November 2011, 08:19 AM

now thats a spotty gum tree

ArbTrain · 1st December 2011, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangitata

No under any circumstances.

Blokes have been dismissed for less

Total Unprofessional, Unsightly and unnecessary.
Only time the spurs come out of the bag is when the tree is getting removed.
BUT THEN THERE IS COCOS PALMS

Mike

Cococ palms dont count- they are shit and SHOULD be removals

View Poll Results: Is it ok to use spurs when prunning ?
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Ok if the price is cheaper for homeowner ?	4	2.33%
Ok if used a ladder for the frist 20 feet so mark arent seen?	4	2.33%
If spurs make the climb safer it is OK ?	28	16.28%
Only hacks use spikes to prune trees ?	136	79.07%
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27th October 2011, 04:15 AM	#362
Joshua Rugg Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii Posts: 285	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on cocos plumosa? allways amazes me to see how far decay can spread in a matter of years. __________________ Stihl MS192T 14" MS200T 16" MS261 16" MS440 25" Husqvarna 359 20" 394XP 32" Poulan P3314 14" ( new hire/groundy saw)

30th October 2011, 07:44 AM	#363
Paul Toivonen Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AUS Posts: 134	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on I answered no spurs on live/removals only. Some would say, depends how much time/money is on the tree. Even then, very un-professional it will probably come back on you.

31st October 2011, 02:05 PM	#364
Alex Metzler Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: eugene oregon Posts: 90	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on i would say it depends on the circumstances & species specifically, some people have argued that a few spike marks are the equiv of a big chainsaw cut, i personaly dont wear spikes unless its abslutly nec, (iv used them on rescues) fact is is the nature and angle of a downwards gaff wound s very difficult for the tree to heal over & creates the perfect entrance point for a pest or pathogen esp the lower on the trunk it is, beyond that leaving unsightly gaff marks on a customers tree is plain unprofessional, isnt our job to care for trees? thin barked trees are obviously less protected & much more vunerable to contusion, but we have evergreens in oregon that have such thick furrowed corky bark sometimes over 4" thick, u couldnt even reach the cambium layer if you tried, the pseudotsuga menziesii (doug fir) & sequoiadendron gigantium (giant sequoia) are both very well insulated trees to name a couple that we work on here, they grow with stretches of straight trunk for 80' even more, the amount of time you would spend putting into riggin all the hardwear up & everything in putting a line up to ascend w jumars, you could have climbed the tree (slightly invasively) three times & saved the frustation of using all that fancy gear, id say it boils down to which species can handle the spikes wo causing damage, and in circumstances which it would be much less safe or unethical to climb wo them.

5th November 2011, 01:58 PM	#365
Tammy1949 Sappling Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: usa Posts: 4	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on I quit subcontracting to one man whom I saw using a ladder to 20' to hide the gouges.

28th November 2011, 07:37 AM	#366
Daniel Janjic Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NSW Posts: 111	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on Walking through a new clients garden I noticed a telltale pattern on a Euc, and asked the client if any work had been done on the tree, she replied "not in the two years we have been here.." There was no apparent wound wood around the scars, will keep an eye on it. Just can't believe someone would do that to prune two 70mm limbs at 5m.. I really like the position of the tap too! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Cheer's Dano http://www.treelove.com.au Last edited by Daniel Janjic; 28th November 2011 at 07:49 AM.

28th November 2011, 08:19 AM	#367
Joshua Rugg Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii Posts: 285	Re: your take on pruning with spurs on now thats a spotty gum tree __________________ Stihl MS192T 14" MS200T 16" MS261 16" MS440 25" Husqvarna 359 20" 394XP 32" Poulan P3314 14" ( new hire/groundy saw)

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