Your definition of a tree hugger

treeseer · 31st January 2008, 04:11 AM

Cave men (and women) evolving here; I've a bit of Cro-Magnon in me yet, whilst youse guys must be...Australopithecus!

Sean Freeman · 31st January 2008, 04:20 AM

Australiepistemophilicus if you please

treeseer · 31st January 2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

Australiepistemophilicus if you please

Eeyikes, a knowledge-loving arborist semifluent in Greek roots--and branches?--; I'd best be on my toes round here!

Sean Freeman · 31st January 2008, 04:34 AM

Its about the onlyy thing my classics education is good for, esp since my chosen path only ever touches Greek and Latin in the names of things!!!

treeseer · 31st January 2008, 04:55 AM

Talking about distant experiences, ever dabble in Sanskrit, Sean? I had dandy fun one semester, trying to translate an Upanishad. Searching for the meaning of life in tomes, when all the time, there it was, in the trees! (Reminds me of the parable of the sage who found All in a grain of wheat)

That's what makes them so huggable.

They respond and regenerate and reach for the infinite, while it seems that often the best we humans can do is regurgitate.

Sean Freeman · 31st January 2008, 05:04 AM

No can't say I have any experience with Sanskrit....when I spent some (too little) time in Africa in the mid 80's I got quite obsessed with the language of the bushmen, and its use of many different kinds of clicks produced with the tongue as you make the sound of a letter/word or part thereof. Really quite mesmerising. The closest language in common use is possibly Xhosa, one of the Bantu languages of Southern Africa..but I'm probably displaying some gross simplification by saying that...apologies to all Xhosa speakers who know better than I!! (ndiyathetha isiXhosa esincinci!)

Done it · 31st January 2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeDimensional

Wow Done It, great pictures, I envy you. The reason I know I'm a tree hugger is that its the only way I can stay in my area on windy days. We all walk with a permanent lean in this part of the world.

I watched your local Saskatoon/Regina news last night. No tree hugging going on there! 30 below, school buses & garbage trucks not working, a goose frozen to the ground. It even made me feel cold and it was 30C.

TreeDimensional · 1st February 2008, 10:53 AM

Done it, the closest we get to tree huggin in this weather is bringing in another arm full of fire wood. There was a 1 and 3 year old native kids froze to death outside their home this week also. Terrible thing! The temperature this winter has been extreme, large fluctuations. Yesterday in the SW corner of the province it was 0C, and a hundred and twenty miles away it was -24C. The coldest we got this week was -49.7 w/o the windchill. Like I mentioned before, you have to be tough or stupid to live here in the winter, but the air is clean and the water is fantastic. Oh! I forgot to mention the view.

Done it · 2nd February 2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

Is that your back yard Doneit? I like it very much.

I caught my mother cutting branches off her crepe myrtle yesterday, this is her backyard, she's 84 and looks after it herself, it's a bit neater than mine [last 2 pics]. The long grass is/was my veg garden.

She cheats a bit with the mower, it's a key start.

Therrin · 3rd February 2008, 02:29 AM

At her age, she's allowed to cheat with that stuff!!

I do alot of work for an 87 year old guy. We harass eachother nonstop the whole time I'm there, but we both love it. He's always giving me stuff, as well as paying very nicely.. Probably more for the company than anything.

Last I was there he gave me a Mec 12 guage reloading press, multi-station turntable with primer feed... I wouldn't have charged him but he wouldn't hear of it. Older folk are often nice to work for, they value your time. (well, some of them anyway)

I think it's not un-common for people not to bring their job home with them. Your backyard may be a bit overgrown, but I'm sure at the end of the day, the last thing you really want to do is go start cutting things in your own yard.

Still looks nice though... wish I'm able to get a spread like that some day.

Nice Pics.

treestyle · 3rd February 2008, 04:44 AM

a tree hugger is on the dole and usually stoned, and they want to protect environmental weed trees growing in significant areas. ie. chinese elms and camphor laurels.

Ekka · 13th February 2008, 02:50 PM

Well, having read a few responses and thought about this a bit I have to hone and polish my personal definition of a tree hugger.

In the link below to a post on the failed New Farm jacarandas is a video from the news broadcast. They interviewed a few people walking around and right at the end of the video watch what a woman says.

New Farm Jacarandas

This is what is said on that video.

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Reporter: "You'll like to see them stay?"
Lady: Yes please, that'll be great"
Reporter: "Despite the possible danger"
Lady: "Absolutely, yep aren't they beautiful trees"

So knowing the essence of my thoughts on what a tree hugger is I would throw her into that bucket. Yep, she's a tree hugger. Not because she protests or hugs trees physically but because her rational judgement is impaired and she is willing to put human life below that of a tree.

So I wonder if she'd attend the funeral service of some-one who is killed or pay them the compensation? It's easy to be green but like all things there's checks and balances. Now perhaps another tree fell yesterday, not sure, nothing on the news etc but I'll head down there.

Issue is the trees were checked, over and over with every possible instrument etc, they were also heavily pruned, I mean ugly, big 14" dia limbs taken off etc yet they keep falling. So understanding from an arborists point of view the targets and situation I'd say some-one like her is a tree hugger.

I was reading in the NSW court case files of Judge Judy and other files on SLD that basically if a tree has never done it before it is an unlikely candidate to do it. So to remove say a gum tree from your property coz "they drop limbs ya know" is not valid unless it has previously. And in the NSW cases that is checked, evidence of SLD, if didn't happen before that reason is tossed out.

However, here's comes the parody, with that train of thought it means ...

1/ Every tree at some stage was considered "immune" to SLD as they all had to wait for their first limb drop.

2/ A failure must occur first, in other words we'll do something about it after the event, meanwhile the customer will laugh saying "I told you so" if he lives and doesn't sustain damage otherwise he'll be yelling it like this ... "I'M NOT EVEN AN ARBORIST AND I TOLD YOU IT WOULD HAPPEN, NOW LOOK WHAT YOU DONE, YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THAT!" and so goes cases like Shoalhaven council getting sued and losing.

Done it · 14th February 2008, 12:14 AM

Was that the Shoalhaven case where the poor guy was killed by his own tree after council refused permission to remove it? There are treehuggers & just plain stupid people, sometimes their both.

Ekka · 14th February 2008, 01:56 AM

Yes, that was shoalhaven and the husband died in his bed around 4.30am when the tree failed.

Originally the council won the case however the lady appealed it and won outright.

Now the tree rules there are if it's in striking distance it's not protected ... do what you like.

The lady in your pic is stupid coz that palm is ugly as.

here's the link, read it for yourself, well worth it.
Shoalhaven LGA, N.S.W, Australia

Done it · 14th February 2008, 02:45 AM

I thought that was the one. Not long before our BIG storm here in 2003 a Holroyd council member said "you have more chance of being hit by lightning than a falling tree branch", after 1000's of trees were destroyed, 110 in 1 golf course, and I don't know how many houses, they reviewed their tree policy.

newguy18 · 14th February 2008, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Done it

Was that the Shoalhaven case where the poor guy was killed by his own tree after council refused permission to remove it? There are treehuggers & just plain stupid people, sometimes their both.

Wow she is stupid who hugs palms?

31st January 2008, 04:11 AM	#51 (permalink)
treeseer Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SE USA Posts: 585	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger Cave men (and women) evolving here; I've a bit of Cro-Magnon in me yet, whilst youse guys must be...Australopithecus! __________________ Guy Meilleur \| Forensic Arborist \| Better Tree Care

31st January 2008, 04:20 AM	#52 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger Australiepistemophilicus if you please __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

31st January 2008, 04:34 AM	#54 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger Its about the onlyy thing my classics education is good for, esp since my chosen path only ever touches Greek and Latin in the names of things!!! __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

31st January 2008, 04:55 AM	#55 (permalink)
treeseer Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SE USA Posts: 585	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger Talking about distant experiences, ever dabble in Sanskrit, Sean? I had dandy fun one semester, trying to translate an Upanishad. Searching for the meaning of life in tomes, when all the time, there it was, in the trees! (Reminds me of the parable of the sage who found All in a grain of wheat) That's what makes them so huggable. They respond and regenerate and reach for the infinite, while it seems that often the best we humans can do is regurgitate. __________________ Guy Meilleur \| Forensic Arborist \| Better Tree Care

31st January 2008, 05:04 AM	#56 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger No can't say I have any experience with Sanskrit....when I spent some (too little) time in Africa in the mid 80's I got quite obsessed with the language of the bushmen, and its use of many different kinds of clicks produced with the tongue as you make the sound of a letter/word or part thereof. Really quite mesmerising. The closest language in common use is possibly Xhosa, one of the Bantu languages of Southern Africa..but I'm probably displaying some gross simplification by saying that...apologies to all Xhosa speakers who know better than I!! (ndiyathetha isiXhosa esincinci!) __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

1st February 2008, 10:53 AM	#58 (permalink)
TreeDimensional Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 381	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger Done it, the closest we get to tree huggin in this weather is bringing in another arm full of fire wood. There was a 1 and 3 year old native kids froze to death outside their home this week also. Terrible thing! The temperature this winter has been extreme, large fluctuations. Yesterday in the SW corner of the province it was 0C, and a hundred and twenty miles away it was -24C. The coldest we got this week was -49.7 w/o the windchill. Like I mentioned before, you have to be tough or stupid to live here in the winter, but the air is clean and the water is fantastic. Oh! I forgot to mention the view.

3rd February 2008, 02:29 AM	#60 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger At her age, she's allowed to cheat with that stuff!! I do alot of work for an 87 year old guy. We harass eachother nonstop the whole time I'm there, but we both love it. He's always giving me stuff, as well as paying very nicely.. Probably more for the company than anything. Last I was there he gave me a Mec 12 guage reloading press, multi-station turntable with primer feed... I wouldn't have charged him but he wouldn't hear of it. Older folk are often nice to work for, they value your time. (well, some of them anyway) I think it's not un-common for people not to bring their job home with them. Your backyard may be a bit overgrown, but I'm sure at the end of the day, the last thing you really want to do is go start cutting things in your own yard. Still looks nice though... wish I'm able to get a spread like that some day. Nice Pics. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

3rd February 2008, 04:44 AM	#61 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 128	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger a tree hugger is on the dole and usually stoned, and they want to protect environmental weed trees growing in significant areas. ie. chinese elms and camphor laurels.

14th February 2008, 01:56 AM	#64 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,933	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger Yes, that was shoalhaven and the husband died in his bed around 4.30am when the tree failed. Originally the council won the case however the lady appealed it and won outright. Now the tree rules there are if it's in striking distance it's not protected ... do what you like. The lady in your pic is stupid coz that palm is ugly as. here's the link, read it for yourself, well worth it. Shoalhaven LGA, N.S.W, Australia __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

14th February 2008, 02:45 AM	#65 (permalink)
Done it Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 238	Re: Your definition of a tree hugger I thought that was the one. Not long before our BIG storm here in 2003 a Holroyd council member said "you have more chance of being hit by lightning than a falling tree branch", after 1000's of trees were destroyed, 110 in 1 golf course, and I don't know how many houses, they reviewed their tree policy.