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AnnetteR

I say "drill the holes', fill them full of murcery, apply colgate and "are your mac cleans showing" reguarly. The whiteness and brightness from the trees smiles will kill of the fungi and everyone will be "hap hap happy again". Is there something else you want fixed?

treevet

Are you using the Resistograph follow up because you feel it is more dependable or established in addition to getting a second reading? (the picus being favored mainly because of lack of invasiveness prior to discovery?)

Have the credibility of these instruments been challenged in courts?

"Shows up by the picus as bad" ? What are the thresholds?

When tested you are checking one area horizontally or radially of a decayed area. What about the existence of a cavity that ventures vertically up or down the trunk and could conceivably billow out as can be their nature, how far do you go above and below the discovered decay? Do you generally concentrate in the perceived flexpoint?

LeifR

Hello, Willem!
Yes, I look forward to see your burl pics. My own burl-thread has also been sleeping for some time. Looking for bad excuses, I might perhaps say that the
half-finished burlbowl must dry about a year.
I have thought of finishing another bowl that is dry enough, an make pics from that work.
Now we prepare Christmas. Our local home craft club organize a gift shop the last weeks before Christmas, so I have been a bit busy about that.
At home we prepare Christmas food. I am interested in local food traditions, an I use for example my grandmothers recipe for making lye fish. That is dried cod soaked in lye. Really delicious. I have read that lyefish was known in Holland too, several hundred years ago.



Here the fish is ready for boiling.

Leif.

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Eric Frei

LOL, it's good to have dreams and ambitions. Doubt you'll get there though coz you have sap for blood hugging all them trees.

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arbdog

Hi all, working at the complete other end of the spectrum as what i used too! 14 weeks of tree planting and it is horrible i hate it cold, wet and muddy. Cant wait for it to be over!..................booo hoooo!

Garry Brockley

Ha ha just love that tree planting in winter bbbbrrrrrrr stuff that muddy cold n wet dont worry only 5 months before the warm weather returns

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newguy18

wtf?

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Garry Brockley

Smoking too much stuff in the sixties i think

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Therrin

I'm still trippin on that lyefish thing...

we're talking about lye, like, soapmaking lye? And you rub the FISH in it before cooking? WTF?

LeifR

For lyefish (lutefisk in Norwegian) we use lye, like that one used for soapmaking. But we don't rub the fish. Lye is a part of the process making these wood-like dried cods a delicious food. Professionals use to day NaOH. In Christmas time Norwegians eat several thousands tons of this fish.
However, the REAL thing is making lye from ashes from the stove. That gives quite another fish!
Maybe I should share this process with you? Then I'll use the thread "My place", and not to day. We'll soon have midnight here.... Good night.
Leif.

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Therrin

Whoa, hey that sounds pretty cool LeifR, I'd for ya to expand on that stuff.


Still working on firewood. And more firewood.... It's really starting to pile up around here. Purchases are down so it's getting pretty full. The splitter goes back to its owner in about a week, and the people who own the property where I live would like most of the wood out of here before they get back home from Europe in a few weeks.

Should be interesting....

We need a firewood splitting icon =)

treeseer

Yeah but swingin a maul, none of that sissy machine stuff.

pcarborist

One thing you can say about swinging a maul-you're not sucking exhaust fumes.

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newguy18

Bite your tongue,splitting with a maul sucks.

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gavin160

Hi mate yeah goin good a couple of big projects in the pipeline at moment
but looking forward to downing tools for christmas.
up to wolverhampton today to do tree report big big big job
took me 4 hours to drive there though
doing a lot of work for unnamed architecht.
Gav

willem

Leifr,

I still don't get what kind of stuff lye is. Don't know what kind of fish we eat a couple of hunderd years ago, but this is another fish tradition in Holland.

Eating raw fish with onions

blair duncanson

Been pretty cold here these days. Travelling much around Scotland justnow, chasing the jobs! Dismantaling Poplar justnow. God that stuff holds on. Anyone got any tips on how to get your sections to snap out proper? Hinges and step cuts are having to be very much reduced to the point of stupidness!!

willem

Treevet,

We use the resitograph when the image of the PICUS shows that the tree is over or near it's critical breakingpoint. Means the cavity or decayed area is so big that there's to little healthy wood left (matheck 1/3 of the radius of stem)

Before we say cut it down we double check with PICUS. Most trees the PICUS image is enough.

For you other questions i refer to this document
http://www.treeworld.info/attachment...1&d=1228855267

It's in dutch so I'll translate.
This is article is used in the case of the famous Anne Frank tree. I think you will know the story otherwise look it up on the internet. This was the most high profile courtcase concerning trees in the Nehterlands. The outcome watched by the entire worldpress.
In this article you see different picus images.
The reason for this article that the group of people in favor of preserving the Anna Franktree want to prevent cutting of the tree in court (They succeded)
In this article they challenge a report which states that the tree is unsafe and has to be cut down immidiatly.
PICUS was used by both parties. The Anne Franktree group states that the measurments conducted are not good interpreted by the reportwriters
See first picus pictures. You see 2006 and 2007 picture. The AnneFranktree group states there's a difference between 06 and 07. The difference is at measuringpoint 1. In 06 the image shows pink and green (means affected by fungus) in 07 this same area is dark (means healty wood).
The AFtree group states how can this be first affected one year later healthy.
The second set of picus images show situation at nearly groundlevel and situation at 75 cm above ground. The redline is critical boundry. The AFtreegroup states if this image is correct the tree should have been dead already.
The third image is one made by the AFtreegroup themselves. They used more sensors and claimed to have interpreted this image beter.
So a long story to anwser your question yes it's used in court.
And the second set gives you an idea about the wounds in vertical direction.
With two or three different measurments at different heights you can get a pretty accurate idea of the vertical development of a cavity. Cracks are harder to intereped, takes some pratice.
Some last words about the AFtree, the images of both parties show a big affected area (blue/white, purple/green). If it were any other tree this would have been rotten firewood already.
PICUS-images take time and practice ot interpred accurate and more mesuringpoints increase accuracy. You don't need need more sensors with the new software and hammer you can use a few sensors on multiple measuringpoints. This affects costs when buying a set.

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treevet

Thanks Willem

LeifR

Lye has the chemical formula NaOH. Boiled with fat, it makes soap. That was the old way of making soap, a rather bad smelling stuff.
The idea of using lye to make dried fish soft is very old, and nobody knows how this crazy idea was invented. We may only guess. The oldest known description is from the year 1550. Archbishop Olaus Magnus tells about it in "The history of the Nordic people". The recipe may also be found in cookery books from Holland, Poland and Spain in the 16. century.

I think the fish-eater in the picture is eating herring? Delicious fish, but I prefer i smoked or salted. I very often eat tomatoherring with sour cream on a piece of bread. Tomatoherring is salted herring in a tomato-oil-sugar sauce with spices.

Leif.

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Therrin

I prefer it smoked salmon, gutted, boned, and de-headed (beheaded?) but I'm just silly like that.

newguy18

I like smoked mollot,and fried catfish.Oh and tilipia.

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phill ellison

hell, I just go to the fish and chip shop

treevet

I like flounder and halibut etc. that don't smell too fishy. I do like some things that smell fishy tho.

LeifR

Talking about flounder....




My friend Terje caught this one some years ago. I think the English name is brill. Scophthalmus rhombus. Delicious food.



But what about this one? Dearest child has many names. Seadevil, bigmouth...



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Therrin

The firewood never ends.

I think I should go back to college. Mmmhmm, yup. Eff this backbreaking work, in the cold, in the rain, in the wind. Maybe a desk job wouldnt be so bad after all.


(mmm, btw, that second fish is freaking hideous)

treevet

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black ( your avatar) (he's prob got a nice personality!)

treevet

Spent $2000 on tires today. Ever notice, you take a truck in that has a low or flat tire, the tire guy says the tire cannot be fixed. If you put one tire on then the other ones, being shorter will put all the weight on the new one and wear it out. "The other ones are all just about done anyway", he says.

Hate getting stuck going to the tire guy.

Rick Haggins

its winter time its christmas time everybody thinkin about the economy its a little slow but things will pick up in jan.always got to keep your head up.

RandyMac

My job is almost always the same, I sit all night in a control room, push buttons and talk for 12 hours.

My projects are coming along just fine, my bench is covered with McCullochs, I got rid of some ancient Homelites and I'm down to one small box of foreign saw parts.

My 3 1/2 month old pup is 12 pounds, as big as his Mom and Dad put together.
A pic of me, the little dogs, beer and 1-43 McCulloch.

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