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Old 19th November 2009, 06:14 AM   #961
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Hi there Bruce Hopf, sounds like a pretty big job. How many tonnes of wood would you need?

How long is the winter season up your way?

I imagine that it would run longer than ours in Australia, I don't know if I could handle long confined winters due to snow. I've got to get outside as much as possible.

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Hi Julie.
I start burning fire wood in my Wood/Oil combination furnace, late in Sept, early part of Oct, just to take the chill, and dampness out of the house. Once November hits, the furnace is burning pretty well around the clock, and stays that way till around the first of May.
Fire wood is my only source of heat, because I had to remove the oil tank for the furnace.
I have 7 rows 18' in length X 7 1/2 feet in height, of fire wood piled into my basement, and on the average winter, I go through 8 to 9 rows of fire wood, so I have to have enough fire wood cut a head of time, to get me through the winter.
Each row holds a little over a full cord of fire wood. A full cord, or as I know it as a Bush Cord, is 4' in height X 4' in width, and 8' in length = 128 cubic feet of fire wood. My fire wood room holds 945 cubic feet, or 7.38 bush cords.
I have a passage way 16" in width, down the middle of the fire wood room, with 3 rows on one side of the fire wood room, and 4 rows down the other side of the passage of the fire wood room. It is a little on the tight side for piling the last row of fire wood, and getting it out of the fire wood room.
But I'd rather have it that way, instead of running out of fire wood, and that gets to be a lot of extra hard work, especially with 2' to 3' of snow on the ground. Bruce.
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Old 19th November 2009, 09:55 PM   #962
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Hey Bruce Hopf,

that is a serious amount of wood, did a rough figure of what that would be in metric cubic meters and that's awesome.

When you think about, it it must take you quite a bit of your year, in collecting , chainsawing,moving it, storing, moving it, then keeping the fire going.

Holy jeez.

Then you have what, eight months roughly of cold weather? Scary! We all complain of the cold over here. Haha.

Well, when I holiday in the tropics, when I win lotto, I'll be thinking of you.

Just kidding, but would'nt it be good to win lotto (our major prize pool here)?

Tell you what if I win 25 million, I'll shout you a trip to Bali. It sounds like YOU need a holiday.




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Been in around the suburbs of melbourne vic still but had a great day today got to prune and dead wood an english oak which was good cause it has been removal after removal lately, but still flat out so thats a good thing.

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OMG totally forgot about this. Driving to do this huge euc stump with the Humpy yesterday. Theres a set of lights at the T intersection on the north end of the Simpson Barracks in Watsonia. Im sitting there in the right hand turn lane waiting, theres a cop waiting to pull out of the main road, when the lights turn red this semi in the right lane just drives straight through the red, he sees the cop and switches to the left lane. The cop done absolutely nothing, just ignored the fact that a semi ran a red and looked like it was speeding right in front of them.
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OMG totally forgot about this. Driving to do this huge euc stump with the Humpy yesterday. Theres a set of lights at the T intersection on the north end of the Simpson Barracks in Watsonia. Im sitting there in the right hand turn lane waiting, theres a cop waiting to pull out of the main road, when the lights turn red this semi in the right lane just drives straight through the red, he sees the cop and switches to the left lane. The cop done absolutely nothing, just ignored the fact that a semi ran a red and looked like it was speeding right in front of them.
Everyone get the impression, that a semi can stop on a dime, like a car, or pickup truck. Doesn't work that way. Transport trucks over here when loaded tandem axel on the tractor, and tandem axle on the trailer weigh in 80,000 Lbs, and that is fully loaded. A B train fully loaded is over 143,000 Lbs, so you can't stop that weight, on a dime. You will need a silver dollar, and some change to go a long with it. Bruce.
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Everyone get the impression, that a semi can stop on a dime, like a car, or pickup truck. Doesn't work that way. Transport trucks over here when loaded tandem axel on the tractor, and tandem axle on the trailer weigh in 80,000 Lbs, and that is fully loaded. A B train fully loaded is over 143,000 Lbs, so you can't stop that weight, on a dime. You will need a silver dollar, and some change to go a long with it. Bruce.
I know trucks dont stop easily, I drive the chipper truck and with a full load + chipper it can easily take 100 metres to stop from 70-80kmh. But this guy had PLENTY of time to stop, even for a fully loaded semi. Speed limit only 60kmh, going uphill as well, he ran it after the other lights turned green.
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Hi Julie.
I start burning fire wood in my Wood/Oil combination furnace, late in Sept, early part of Oct, just to take the chill, and dampness out of the house. Once November hits, the furnace is burning pretty well around the clock, and stays that way till around the first of May.
Fire wood is my only source of heat, because I had to remove the oil tank for the furnace.
I have 7 rows 18' in length X 7 1/2 feet in height, of fire wood piled into my basement, and on the average winter, I go through 8 to 9 rows of fire wood, so I have to have enough fire wood cut a head of time, to get me through the winter.
Each row holds a little over a full cord of fire wood. A full cord, or as I know it as a Bush Cord, is 4' in height X 4' in width, and 8' in length = 128 cubic feet of fire wood. My fire wood room holds 945 cubic feet, or 7.38 bush cords.
I have a passage way 16" in width, down the middle of the fire wood room, with 3 rows on one side of the fire wood room, and 4 rows down the other side of the passage of the fire wood room. It is a little on the tight side for piling the last row of fire wood, and getting it out of the fire wood room.
But I'd rather have it that way, instead of running out of fire wood, and that gets to be a lot of extra hard work, especially with 2' to 3' of snow on the ground. Bruce.
That photo of the trailer load of firewood behind your tractor looks like you have most of your supply in the one load! Either that or it's a small tractor!

You burn almost twice as much as me, I use a lot of heating oil and burn all I can in my small stove. Sure helps though. I've got a drafty old farmhouse.

I stack mine outside, don't you worry about bugs in your home from the wood?

My stack is just outside the (small) barn, I can walk through the barn to the wood stove.

I used to work at a farm where we put up 200 cords a year. So what I do now is almost relaxing. I split it by hand, and just do a bit every now and then, I don't go all out. It adds up.

This year I was burning in July, it was so cool and rainy. I've burned quite a bit already, fortunately I cut more than normal. I need lots of snow to bury my house and keep us warm!!

My fire has been going steady since September. I burned a lot in October. November has been our best weather of the year, but of course, steady burning.
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That in fact was an old single Axel manure spreader, that I modified to haul fire wood with. I just took out the rear beaters out of it, added another Axel and tires, and built the racks up.
The height of the racks from the ground, is higher than what I stand, and I'm 5' 9". I left the apron chain in, so it is a lot easier to unload the fire wood with. Just turn the PTO of the tractor on, and the apron chain brings the fire wood to me to be piled. or threw into the basement of the house.
That load was 3 full cords, or 12 face cords, about 1/2 of what I would burn in a year. The Tractor is a 1650 Cockshutt, with a diesel engine around the 70to 80 HP mark.
I had to take that load about 45 miles, so I had to make it worth my while to haul that big of a load. Everything was piled into the spreader. It took me 2 1/4 hours one way to drive.
As for the bugs, I just throw in some moth balls around my fire wood, when it is piled outside, or in the wood shed, and that keeps them out of the fire wood. Bruce.
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Yippee. I finally finished getting my fire wood into the basement today. The fire wood room is right full, except the passage way I have in the room. I had a friend of mine give me a hand with it.
He handed me the fire wood through the window, and I piled it right away. Worked out really well, because I have only so much room, to maneuver in the passage way. I can turn myself around in it, but that is about it. It's pretty tight in there. Bruce.
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Nice looking wood Bruce, I hate all the small stuff you get today with the processed wood, they split everything. I like rounds, just as big as I can fit into my stove. Yours looks great.

Finished? Never been there so I don't know what it feels like. Eventually winter sure slows things down though. Then I have to use my stacks by the barn door.

I searched for your location, you are actually quite a bit further south than me. It looked like a lot of cleared farm land, guess that's why you went so for for your wood.

I've been noticing since that we are totally surrounded by forest here, get up on a hill (I've been hunting) and you can see nothing but forest for miles and miles miles.
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What part of Maine are you from. I used to drive transport trucks, and I was down there a few times with loads.
I had quite the experience on night, , north, or west of Jockom (don't know if I spelled it right) with a misty rain. I seen three objects cross the road in front of me, two smaller objects disappeared into the bush, while the bigger object turned around.
I was driving an R Model Mack, and I remember saying to the puppy on the hood, "Puppy, your going to be in a world of hurt, so brace yourself". That old cow moose stood on the shoulder of the road, nose pointing in the direction she had come, and looked through the passenger window as I went by.
The two calves where on their way back out of the bush, towards the road, turned and went back into the bush again. The puppy was lucky that night.
Yes it is a good feeling to have the winters fire wood inside the basement. The last couple of years, I was cutting fire wood, it was during the winter, and then throwing it into the basement.
The snow would melt, make everything wet, fire wood would get musty, mildewy and moldy. Wouldn't burn right, even being in the basement for a month or two, while the rest of the fire wood that was dry, and burnt first.
As for me getting fire wood, it is available, 40' behind the barn. We have 15 to 16 acres of mixed bush. Ash, Maple, Elm, Oak, and Poplar, which I don't waist my time with. The dead Poplar trees, I just fell, chunk them up into 4' to 5' logs, and if they are going to be in the road, of getting around, I just push them into a heap with the loader tractor, and let them rot where they lay. Gopher Wood, is what I call it. . Throw an arm load on, go for more. .
I built the trailer, or manure spreader the way I did, because I sold a fair bit of fire wood last year, so I just use the tractor for doing the delivering. If I pile the load like I did in my Avatar, I can pile 12 face cords, or 3 full cords into it.
If I pile the back closed, and let the fire wood drop in from the elevator, I can load 8 face cords, or 2 full cords into it, and I'll have to pile around the edges of the load, to heap up the middle of the load.
I don't like to split everything fine either. For a wood stove, while I have a customer on the phone, I ask them how big the opening is on there stove, and I split it for that dimension
I have a wood stove in my shop, so everything that the customer has for an opening, It is about the same size opening of my wood stove, and for the ones that are not sure how big the opening, or if there is a bar across the middle of the fire box, what I can fit in my door, they can as well, so that takes care of a lot of guess work.
One of my customers has a bigger wood stove, and he can fit in a block the same size as what I can fit in my furnace, so for his order, I just pile the fire wood into rows of 4' high X 8' long, so I know that my customers are getting, and is getting what he is paying for. I'd sooner be short on fire wood, than my customer being short on his delivery, after all he is the one doing the paying.
I agree with you, those fore wood processors would be nice to have, but the turn decent sized rounds into tooth picks, when they get split, which burns way too fast. Bruce.
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Old 23rd November 2009, 08:01 PM   #972
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Usual xmas rush,trying to get every one with a chipper and truck to sell me there mulch so I can keep up with my orders,checking our own chipper every night for the next days hire.Trying to get some time to start restoring an old B275 International tractor I just brought from a nieghbour. Just keeping up with the inquiries about fire prevention vegitation clearing.After the bush fires last year in Victoria every one is paronoid about fires.
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Gotta love those new rules from the fires. Everything within 10m of a building used for accommodation can be cleared, everything except trees from 20-30m and if theres dense forest within 100m it should be thinned.

Yesterday learned this new felling method, I like it better over the old method, although the trees were too thin to really do any proper felling, but I did have 100% accuracy.
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Gotta love those new rules from the fires. Everything within 10m of a building used for accommodation can be cleared, everything except trees from 20-30m and if theres dense forest within 100m it should be thinned.

Yesterday learned this new felling method, I like it better over the old method, although the trees were too thin to really do any proper felling, but I did have 100% accuracy.
could you please explain the new method of tree felling. I'd love to learn something new, when it comes to felling trees in our bush. Thanks. Bruce.
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Ive seen a lot of new felling methods since the new 10/30 rule came in.My favorite I saw in a suburban block yesterday.You take a 10 ton wheeled loader add a 10m truck then proceed to clearfell everything within 10m of the house.It gets a bit tricky when it comes to removing the vegitation under the trees within 30m,hey but these guys gave it a go !!! Who needed that stand off 80 year old melaleuca lanceolata's any way.
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Ive seen a lot of new felling methods since the new 10/30 rule came in.My favorite I saw in a suburban block yesterday.You take a 10 ton wheeled loader add a 10m truck then proceed to clearfell everything within 10m of the house.It gets a bit tricky when it comes to removing the vegitation under the trees within 30m,hey but these guys gave it a go !!! Who needed that stand off 80 year old melaleuca lanceolata's any way.
Hmm bit of a worry.

Haven't they heard of fire retardant planting?

They are changing the DCP here in Wyong Shire to the 3m rule. Anything within the 3m perimeter of the house, unless it,s significant, no longer needs a consent. I suppose that would include a lot of waterfront and views too.

Hmm bit of a worry

Lots of lawns and concrete coming up.

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A bit of a shame to lose melaleuca lanceolata on the peninsula. Naturally occuring Moonahs are an important part of the landscape down there.

A lot of people are making kneejerk reactions to the fire threat.
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A bit of a shame to lose melaleuca lanceolata on the peninsula. Naturally occuring Moonahs are an important part of the landscape down there.

A lot of people are making kneejerk reactions to the fire threat.
Yes Trev most remnant vegetation is all but gone,and after our state planing minister brought in the new 10/30 vegetation fire clearing rule there wont be much left.I can understand to a certain degree this rule applying to farms & acreage lots where I live but this is a blanket overlay including suburban lots.To add to this ,there is alot of confusion about what vegetation constitutes a fire threat in these clearance zones.Even our council environment department has trouble adjudicating on this one.
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What a week. Had my biggest climbing removal, huge ass golden elm in a backyard, first bit of decent rigging too. Groundie kept saying cut them bigger, I gave him big, he was soar after that :P.
Had a bit of a miracle, driving at 80kmh and the tread on the left tyre of the chipper rips off, left the tyre intact but did bend the mudguard back in on itself. I didnt even feel anything, I only stopped when my groundie screamed stop stop stop after seeing the tread come off.
Yesterday had this guy trying to scab wood off us, we let him take some bits on the ground but he started looking in the truck and we pretty much had to tell him to f off as he was just going 'its only 1 little piece...' over and over again. Its in the truck, so it stays in the truck...
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Hi to all &merry christmas to all . been just cruseing along doing my job cutting down trees & weed trees that they get free from council many years ago and plant them around their house ;under power lines. arwell keeps us all in work.
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welcome,some of us don't celebrate christmas yuo knowi reconize the solstice.
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hey, does anyone have Mr. Petzl's phone number???? I have been meaning to ask him for a job.
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Departing for warmer weather in Florida for a Recreational Tree Climbing get together. Looking forward to a great weekend at a Boyd Hill Nature Preserve>
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Which one?the geezer's in windermere,or vermeer day on friday?Either way i'll be there,maybe we can meet up?
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hey, does anyone have Mr. Petzl's phone number???? I have been meaning to ask him for a job.
when you get hired tell mr. P to cater to more tree equipment not rock jockeys

AAAAAAnd im out no more computer for me. Traveling back to the northwest. It was nice here in Indiana and the great lakes area but the scenery is a little flat for my taste. Wish i had pictures of the removals and the little amount of pruning i got done. Maybe my buddy can e-mail me a couple of them and ill post. Heres the agenda oregon, washington, california for x-mas, then reno, back to hawaii for new years, and then in the spring im pushing abroad to denmark....when the suns up for longer then an hour. and warmer. Id like to go down under but i may be under political alienation from my posts. it was great hope i didnt step on any toes...to hard. 1st and formost
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Old 3rd December 2009, 08:56 AM   #986
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You need a laptop with roaming wifi, many places now provide a free wifi connection for guests, I mean like McDonalds and the local pub!

Safe travelling mate.
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Old 9th December 2009, 07:12 PM   #987
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Suposed to be summer time there in Nu Zeeland, but still got the fire going to keep warm.
Just started dropping a few pines around the place for burning next winter, will split them up in January sometime.

Been running my Stihl 390 with a 25" bar last couple of nights to see how it runs, seems to be ok, but will go back to the 20" after I've ringed up these last couple of trees.

Current "tree" project is a wood fired water heater, just purchased an old second hand boiler. Not too sure how to connect it up, I know where the fire goes so thats a start!
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These 15 hour days are a killer, at least I had a decent 'view' on tower hire.
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Old 11th December 2009, 10:45 AM   #989
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Work, work, work & enjoying my trees!
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Old 11th December 2009, 10:22 PM   #990
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Hi there Davecla and Shovel, enjoy the site.

Davecla, of course its cold.... your in WINDY Wellington,....nice spot though, met some nice people your way.


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