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View Poll Results: Rate the probability of failure
No chance of failure, get another beer and back to the footy 0 0%
Low chance of failure, just dont park under it 0 0%
Moderate chance of failure, probably fall toward the neibs anyway 1 1.59%
High chance of failure, should get around to it some day 19 30.16%
Extremely likely to fail, in fact, should have failed by now! 42 66.67%
Who cares, insurance will cover it! She'll be right 1 1.59%
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Old 4th November 2007, 11:14 PM   #31
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Remove them all, Jason. I'm sure you won't run out of work!!!

Not.

"Get your hand off it"? Class outfit of wankers you got here eric.

Aw C'mon Treeseer it's just a bit of verbal jousting

You weren't serious??? when you suggested cabling were you?

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Old 5th November 2007, 08:48 PM   #32
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The video is OUT.

Yes, we cabled alright.

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Old 5th November 2007, 09:11 PM   #33
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Ekkaaaaa, I thought you must have finally cabled a tree!!!
Oh well.

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Old 6th November 2007, 02:00 PM   #34
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cabling in the proper setting,and of course amount of decay,that is the kind of hazard tree that will give me my overtime on the next good wind storm,if the utility dont want it down,the people if they spend time in yard or have children should address safest stategy to limit the risk factor,,hope all are well DRANO
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Old 29th February 2008, 12:34 PM   #35
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Before the defect can be judged, it must be measured. How bad is that decay? Is the tree compartmentalizing it? If so and that is the only defect, then cable it. You all have heard of cabling, right?

C A B L E for those Chicken Little devotees who haven't, and still think that every hazard should be removed.

cable it to what? the other lead? so you either have it sever on the line side shift all the weight to other lead and have that bust off and hit the house or you have the opposite occur and take out the electrical line {hope no one is anywhere near when that catastrophe happens. if they are i hope they get it on video.
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Old 29th February 2008, 12:43 PM   #36
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cable it to what? the other lead? so you either have it sever on the line side shift all the weight to other lead and have that bust off and hit the house or you have the opposite occur and take out the electrical line {hope no one is anywhere near when that catastrophe happens. if they are i hope they get it on video.
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I dont know much about cabling as it isn't to common here in Aus.
I can see how it could be a good thing to save a tree that would otherwise have to be euthanised but how far do you take it?

Treeseer seems to be the king of cabling, but i cant get him to answer any of my questions?
(maybe i have to wait until i'm qualified then i'll be worthy of a response)
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Old 29th February 2008, 01:14 PM   #37
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mixed up[ threads; can't tell which tree is up for the ax.

Plant something better, that's all there is to do.

Can't save em all but worth saving many.
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Old 29th February 2008, 02:26 PM   #38
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Depends Guy,most of the bigger oaks down here after they get bigger than 2' in diameter or sooner get extensive heart rot more times than not.Would you be willing to cable a tree thats standing on a mere 10 inch ring of wood?i wouldn't.
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Old 29th February 2008, 03:12 PM   #39
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Oaks vs gum trees for cabling, big difference IMHO.

Was just discussing today the longivity of both species and the differences.

In our grand discussions we concluded between the two of us living here a combined 32 years that most gum trees past 100 year old start to crap out anyway. Seldom will you see 200 year old ones.

In our urbanization we decrease that life span, make sure there's no fires and most people plant lawn and mow it.

We are talking here in our place and surrounding districts.

So, oils aint oils Sole the old Castrol ad went, most people live in fear of euc anyway and I ask many many people, arborists in fact, would you like to live underneath a 100' euc? 90%+ answer no, funny that.

Now in some cases the councils have said "you must live under that" coz they protected them, then they failed and if the rate payer didn't sue the councils azz off the insurance company did.

Eucs, well you've seen a whole bunch out at this site getting felled, you've seen the rot, so have the customers and they say it GOES, save the cable for the internet.
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Old 29th February 2008, 03:17 PM   #40
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Depends Guy,most of the bigger oaks down here after they get bigger than 2' in diameter or sooner get extensive heart rot more times than not.Would you be willing to cable a tree thats standing on a mere 10 inch ring of wood?i wouldn't.
maybe the physics involved arent understood
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If it isn't stormimng out on saturday,i'm going to drop a dead oak for the horse farrier and i'll takea pic of the stump for another tree i climbed and took down for him.I took it down in the end of november.from memory it was on about 10 percent of the diameter of the trunk and hollow in the center.
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OK, did you get it done? Any clear pics?
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got it done but forgot the camera.I wanna kick myself for forgetting that,all went well but i ended up doing 2 trees.
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would otherwise have to be euthanised but how far do you take it

I like the use of that word, Playfordtree, in regards to tree removal when all remedies have been considered and eliminated.

"....act or practice of causing death painlessly, so as to end suffering: advocated by some as a way to deal with persons dying of incurable, painful diseases."
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Old 2nd March 2008, 11:44 AM   #45
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In an urban environment where a tree once lived in a forest and now lives (with a bad fork) next to a house, get rid and replace! We are here to advise on possible failures and future specimens! We are the educated compramise between trees and people and we see both sides of the arguement.

It must be noted that this opinion is based on general principles as I am not familiar with the species!

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Old 2nd March 2008, 03:46 PM   #46
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hi guys my name is pomie i am a contract climber in brisbane i have been climbing brisbane for 14 years ,with 2 years climbing in england ,and my advise to anyone with a suss looking gum tree to have it removed ,from what i have seen with gum trees ,they seem prone to limb failure i have had a rose gum have limbs fail after a night of rain when i was climbing it and it was not one but 3 limbs and up until that point it was an healthy looking tree .so unless the tree is is in a forest or far from any targets it should be removed
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Old 25th March 2008, 02:47 PM   #47
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did you at least convince them to get rid of it before it crushed their shoe box of a house?
I remember I was working at this one house and when I pulled up in the rig I hit the tree branch hanging in the street and being a tree guy chipped it and after pulling away, it actually looked better after it was all said and done.
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Old 19th November 2011, 05:53 PM   #48
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WOW..What dick head would build a brand new home that close to an ironbark standing 50 to 60 Ft. tall?
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Old 27th November 2011, 09:52 AM   #49
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that union looks like good habitat.
Yeah, probably too hard to split into usable firewood.
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Old 27th November 2011, 09:55 AM   #50
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WOW..What dick head would build a brand new home that close to an ironbark standing 50 to 60 Ft. tall?
The trees should have been dozed in the site prep.
Then plant something smaller, better, exotic.
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