Why do people need to go so far overboard?

StrictlyPalms

Hippies Wail for Dead Trees?Video

I'm at a loss for words.
People need to get hobbies or something.

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dannyboysfc

Wow, I couldn't even watch the whole thing.

I think this kind of thing is a hobby.... for people who lack brains.

Jeff Darby

Extremisum....In any form is no good!...These same wailing hipocrits probly went home that night and balled their eyes out as they ate their T-Bones...The poor cowssss..Boo...Hooo..

l'm a greenie but l'm a realist about it.

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treeseer

Right here in North Carolina--darn I missed it!

Screaming is good



therapy for the screamer. I don't know what it does for the trees or the earth though. If they had ears, it would hurt them.

newguy18

But Guy,didn't you stick up for a dead tree awhile back?C'mon man shed a tear for the dead trees around the world.

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ArborealTerror

These people really need therapy! I would suggest about 330kv.

I agree that smashing down old growth forest to make paper or particle board is not good but these ferals just make the whole conservation movement look like a bunch of irrational tree hugging/smoking useless hippies.

I agree with JayD, any form of extremism is bad even if it is for a good cause.

Eric Frei

Crikey!

Bring down here and I'll give them something to scream about!

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treeseer

I stick up for trees all the time; it's my yob. But I never cried or screamed for one; waste of energy.

Knotahippie

Yeah, dumb as# hippies!

I hate hippies too...really. Mainly because they are uneducated.

Those guys are in the wrong state...It's CA USA. that owns the most damaged rain forest in the world (2-3% left)

It's cool though, weve only lost half of our top soil (into the river) but look at the bright side (sunglasses required), were gaining thousands of acres of desert...a day.

Maybe the ignorant, dirty hippy people shouldn't be able to speak their opinions and If I had it my way, I'd send all the morons in the world to the gulags in siberia.

I make my money cuttn' trees, but all these ones are too small! I wanna' cut some ol' growth dang it!

It dosent matter anyway, they told me on TV that a big volcano/meteor/tidalwave was on it's way this afternoon, so I better finish cuttn' so I can get home to kiss my as# goodbye.

Found this the other day...funny how the company didn't even know they were logging...maybe because there's no good reason to cut those trees.

Armed police force end to PNG logging protest - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

newguy18

Really,my job is to remove as many as i can a day.

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Jeff Darby

It's sad really when your in the take down market,You are really in the long run cutting your own throat!.....Go figger.

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newguy18

I know,as ironic as it sounds i really do make an effort to save trees but ultimately he who pays the bill calls the shots.

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Jeff Darby

Yes, l know but you need to start now before your standing there worn out and pissed off at there's no work out there.

Promote good tree maintenance as the way to go,your work will be re acuring as long as you treat them right.

It's hard, but if you dont start now it's only a matter of time before your day is over.

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newguy18

Jay,i do promote good treecare,i'm probabley the closest thing to an arborist around here,every other tree service in my area promotes topping,wound paint and of course flush cuts,i was out in jasper yesteday and saw a pecan tree that had 4 of its 5 leaders removed,the man had me bid removing the last leader.oh btw it was also painted with wound spray.I do pruning and other work,but about 90 percent of it,sadly is removals.

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RandyMac

I'm one of those dirty bastards that helped cut all the old growth, would do it again in a heartbeat.

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Eric Frei

Such is the cycle, from hero to villain.

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Jeff Darby

l'm shocked...LOL...Dont read his responce now little Treeworld sapplings...LOL

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playfordtree

Man,

that video was funny

Overeducated Whitebread.

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Knotahippie

You Said It,

A good med. sized tree can add up $10-30,000 property value where I'm at.

Knotahippie

True, True...and I might have said the same thing, but 15yrs. ago.

Respect where respect is due.

Honestly, I get a kick out of seein' big trees fall...got alot of footage from back in the day...grew up climbin'/cuttin in the redwoods, real stoked bro!

We cut a euc. here in 06' that was BIG (150')...alot of fun, leaner w/a plunge cut to takedown.

Ain't nothin' like a 099 and 15 an hour...

But original trees?

All that dirt in the river? All that forest duff/organisms (often 2-3'') lost?

Brutal on the fishing, and I fished steelhead/salmon/sturgeon my whole life, and its getting worse...

I'm not saying these things will totally disapear, damaged? Yes.

Grew up fishing the soutern most steelhead/salmon holding rivers and creeks in America...real fun times.

Folks cut down ALL but a few trees where I grew up, but some on steep hillsides and near rivers/creeks still remain.

Now these are threatened (1-2% left)

Why not appreciate what isn't ruined...as a (local) seed source (original bio source)

MEDIA RELEASE: Less logging of BC’s old-growth forests makes more economic sense | CFTKTV

At least so provenance is a factor?

Ultimate respect to the big tree guys, you guys rule...

...but I learned alot about logging on the first job.

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newguy18

You should watch these knotahippie,



and after those watch the second video in my sig line.

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Knotahippie

Ohhh, now I get it. O.K. I'm convinced.

Why not chip up yer' household trash and make decking out of it instead?

Thanks for the vid. series, it was actually informative, but gave no real numbers (2-3% old redwood growth left in the world).

Gotta' remember, California has the worlds most damaged rainfoest.

Probably like this feller in the vid., I too grew up in the redwood forest and hiked/cruised alot of the parks up and down the coast.

Up north, those rivers and creeks are damaged (even the Smith), you just gotta' look harder (real numbers). Where I'm at it's easy to see.

Iv'e seen photos of a 1000 yr. old redwood growing on top of...not out of...a tree that fell 1000 years before. they milled em' both.

When a big tree falls in the woods what decompacts the soil? The big tree decomposing does (lignified/heart wood). and it's supposed to stay there for a LONG time.

The forest floor ends up in the river, killing the fish/river organisms. The carbon resource is removed along with the tree (1000 yrs of food/home for organisms) the the rain compacts the soil, making storm runoff a serious $ problem.

Visiting Rancho Del Oso's visitor center is an easy way to see it. When Hoover lived there, Waddell Creek had tens of thousands of steelhead/salmon.
Then it was sold and logged, choking the river.

At the park entarance is a large marsh (1mi. x 1/2 mi.) full of rotting forest floor.

Iv'e never seen one good sized fish in november. Some reports say, the salmonoid #'s are normal...yeah, for a destroyed ecosystem (fish count was even lower than assumed). All that gravel/rocks buried and overheated.

Iv'e heard people say, they didn't log very heavy here. but I found the proof in an interesting place.

History | Big Creek Lumber

I spent many weekends backpacking Big Basin redwoods/creeks (barefoot, 15mi. in some of the worst storms of last 10 yrs.)

I look for live crown ratio when evaluating healthy stands of trees. How much light reaches the forest floor, how much leaf/needle area is there. how big are the branches? Annual rings (often 10-20x less rings per sq."in 100yr. new growth)?

The stunning fact is that these 100 yr. old "big" trees can be 20x less efficient at absorbing Co2...so a 1000 acre stand of old growth is doing the JOB of 20,000 acres of new growth!

And there is "old growth" all over the country in the form of 80-150 yr. old oaks/other trees/palms. think about what the world was like when that tree was a sprout, then cut it down, get your $50 and go to the bar.

When you wake up in the morning with a fat headache you might be thinking you could have made $100 pruning and mulching that tree instead of huffing 2 cycle all day (this is what happened to me).

It's all about the dirt. you cut the tree the dirt washes away.

SimpleAnswerForTheWorld

I'm not trying to convince anyone, of anything. These are just some real figures to think about. "Strictly Palms" asked, so this is why...



Funny part is that they cant mill half the wood outa' some of those ancient trees.