Vines up trees? Yes or no poll?

ArbTrain · 27th November 2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumnut

Depends on the vine... Part of a vine's job in the rainforest is to open the canopy by eventually bringing down branches & they also provide habitat for wildlife.
Vines should be managed where necessary, just like trees in urban environments.

Good point,... they have their place in the rain forest.. good example of ' every thing in its place; i guess. I must admit, i initially responce to this thread was from a climbing point of view only. ( and from that P.O.V.- vines suck){{ and can be bloody dangerous}}.. however i do recall refusing to fell a fig at the foot of Mt Warning ( that was blocking solar), because it was covered in vine and was a thriving hive of rainforest life. So, yeah- your right man- vines have their place- well said.

Scott Augur · 26th February 2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TREE-SURFER

English ivy, which has a habit of covering the trunk and canopy, tends to create a larger sail area for the wind to catch, creating more resistance and subsequent failure. Our local highway depot once used to cut a ring around the base, taking out about a foot and a half of the base run of ivy. In turn, would die and rot away. But no more........ Come the winds, (usually Feb) the roads get blocked off with, wait for it.....Ivy coated trees.. Arn't they great?

Tree Surfer,
We have English Ivy here in the Pacific Northwest of U.S.. Since we have a mid latitude, maritime climate here, the Ivy does real well. It grows fast and spreads quickly. It looks so cool against the Douglas Fir bark of a 5 foot diameter tree when it is young. If the tree owner likes it, they may even fertilize the Ivy. Then, when the Ivy is 90 feet and climbing, they call me up and ask if I could remove it. I decline, of course, but offer to cut the spiny trunk of the Ivy off to let die. It is majestic and beautiful, though. Even so, when I see the little baby vines starting up a trunk, I recommend removing the Ivy now.
Scott

John Vander · 28th February 2012, 09:44 AM

Darn things choke up the trees here. They take a lot of time off felling operations due to removal.

Beth Petrie · 3rd March 2012, 03:08 PM

English ivy is horrible. I had some growing into mature fruitless mulberry trees and some of the vines were over two inches in diameter (!). None of the vines on the ground got as thick in diameter as the ones that were burrowed into the bark of the trees. One of the trees had fungus and a hole in it and the ivy grew into the rotted hole. I had the trees removed due to their growing over the house, but the ivy was the clincher. I don't think ivy can be safely removed when it covers the trunk that completely because it is glued to the bark too firmly. I used to try removing the smaller vines and it caused tiny punctures in the bark, and cutting the two-inch thick vines to let the ivy die, but it always came back. When the trees were removed, the thinner vines could be peeled back on the ground, but the thickest vines still could not. The vines were literally strangling the tree at the base of the trunk. English ivy is also not favored by wildlife,and they would avoid any part of the tree with the ivy in it or on the ground. I've read that rats, mice, and snakes are about the only things that like to live in ivy. I'm having a heck of a time getting it off the ground and my wood fences now that the trees are gone. English ivy doesn't belong anywhere. It also causes allergic reactions in some people, including me (blisters and hives that take weeks to heal if I don't cover up). There's nothing pretty about it.

View Poll Results: Are vines up trees?
Good and beneficial	0	0%
A problem and should be removed	99	50.77%
Depends on the vine	96	49.23%
Voters: 195. You may not vote on this poll

28th February 2012, 09:44 AM	#153
John Vander Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oita Prefecture, Japan Posts: 135	Re: Vines up trees? Yes or no poll? Darn things choke up the trees here. They take a lot of time off felling operations due to removal. __________________ "What kills a skunk is the publicity it gives itself." Abraham Lincoln

3rd March 2012, 03:08 PM	#154
Beth Petrie I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: SF Bay Area, California Posts: 3	Re: Vines up trees? Yes or no poll? English ivy is horrible. I had some growing into mature fruitless mulberry trees and some of the vines were over two inches in diameter (!). None of the vines on the ground got as thick in diameter as the ones that were burrowed into the bark of the trees. One of the trees had fungus and a hole in it and the ivy grew into the rotted hole. I had the trees removed due to their growing over the house, but the ivy was the clincher. I don't think ivy can be safely removed when it covers the trunk that completely because it is glued to the bark too firmly. I used to try removing the smaller vines and it caused tiny punctures in the bark, and cutting the two-inch thick vines to let the ivy die, but it always came back. When the trees were removed, the thinner vines could be peeled back on the ground, but the thickest vines still could not. The vines were literally strangling the tree at the base of the trunk. English ivy is also not favored by wildlife,and they would avoid any part of the tree with the ivy in it or on the ground. I've read that rats, mice, and snakes are about the only things that like to live in ivy. I'm having a heck of a time getting it off the ground and my wood fences now that the trees are gone. English ivy doesn't belong anywhere. It also causes allergic reactions in some people, including me (blisters and hives that take weeks to heal if I don't cover up). There's nothing pretty about it.

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