Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree

chadd · 11th July 2008, 04:30 PM

sounds kinky, but i think thats what viagra is for. still no resolution for the tree though

treevet · 11th July 2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chadd

sounds kinky, but i think thats what viagra is for.

Your mother and I have never found the need for it.

chadd · 11th July 2008, 06:07 PM

thats because she was probably analyzing you, she's a psychologist. but hey whatever works for ya

newguy18 · 11th July 2008, 07:37 PM

Okay,are we debating the fate of a dead tree or treevet's daydreams?

treevet · 11th July 2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by treevet

Hope the mrs. doesn't try to find a way to prop me up and hold me up with cables when I am dead and rotten. The "cause to save the dead tree" beyond comprehension.

Let me rephrase this post for clarity. "Trees have dignity" (Shigo). And to top or disfigure a tree in the name of (?) or to prop up a carcass in the name of something or someone is demeaning.

Beyond this point there is only so much energy and/or funds for things at hand. During the day I hate (hate) to have a log roll off the truck that we loaded. Energy was Wasted. Given a ration of water on a hot day there is a glass it is poured into. This glass is overfilled and it is wasted unused and never to be reclaimed. There are causes and there are people who take up causes. This wasted energy and misdirected (ostensibly good) intentions being wasted on this when it could be directed towards saving live trees, improving live trees, planting new trees with this energy and funding. It is a travesty.

In my area all the energy, funding and research is being directed towards saving a few individual ash trees in the midst of an infestation when it could be entirely spent on containing the spread of the killer insect. It hurts to watch this esp. as it appears to be fueled by the dollar as usual. Sometimes you just assume that people around you have good intentions. Are entomologists vocationally dedicated to saving trees? It is something to think about.

Ekka · 12th July 2008, 01:46 AM

What makes this one stand out more is it is not fuelled by the extremists who think it's habitat or something of ecological value.... even they seem beyond it but the odd objector got beaten over the head as they deserved.

It is fuelled purely by human emotion.

treevet · 12th July 2008, 03:50 AM

That alone has started many wars.

Sylvatica · 12th July 2008, 04:40 AM

I'm confused. Its a dead tree so why save it?

newguy18 · 12th July 2008, 07:03 AM

Has treeseer came up with a spell to resurect dead trees yet?

willem · 12th July 2008, 02:03 PM

Interesting thread. I can see some comparison with the Anne Franktree.
First of all I would like to know if the smallere tree behind the stump is part of rootsystem of the original hollow tree. I couldn't make this up from the photo. If the younger smaller tree is part of the original treesystem than i think the tree is still alive and should be preserved.
Here in Holland the Anne Franktree has also sparked a lot of different discussions . For instance if we should see some trees as monuments as we do with old churches and castels and try to preserve them what ever the costs.
I think we have always done this in Europe even thousands of years ago. A lot of the oldest trees in Europe ( some more than 1000 old) were always protected woreshipped and used by people. They played an important role in the relegion and were regarded sacred. Later on christian churches were build next to them but the tree wasn't harmed. Now a days you find a lot of these veterans still next to the churches often outdating them. So seeing trees as semicultural monuments is a very old practice.
I cann't see any harm in trying to preserve trees altough there future isn't to bright. The costs are always a debate but no one debates on the costs of maintaning important buildings.
I think it hass to be both try to keep as much oldies but even more important also invest money in realizing big healty trees in urban areas so people in 2500 can debate if they want to maintain a dangerous sick veteran tree. Invest in treemanagement and keep working on creating good growth conditions in urban areas.
I'll try to see if can find the rapport on the Anne Franktree and put it on this thread.

Willem

Willem

Ekka · 12th July 2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by willem

First of all I would like to know if the smallere tree behind the stump is part of rootsystem of the original hollow tree.

In this post is a PDF, very much worth a read.
Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree

The Hollow Tree was a Western Red Cedar and the tree growing next to it is a Hemlock.

funarty · 12th July 2008, 06:40 PM

Yer they need to plant some new ones!!!

11th July 2008, 04:30 PM	#51 (permalink)
chadd Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: canada Posts: 59	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree sounds kinky, but i think thats what viagra is for. still no resolution for the tree though

11th July 2008, 06:07 PM	#53 (permalink)
chadd Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: canada Posts: 59	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree thats because she was probably analyzing you, she's a psychologist. but hey whatever works for ya

11th July 2008, 07:37 PM	#54 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,740	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree Okay,are we debating the fate of a dead tree or treevet's daydreams? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

12th July 2008, 01:46 AM	#56 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,405	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree What makes this one stand out more is it is not fuelled by the extremists who think it's habitat or something of ecological value.... even they seem beyond it but the odd objector got beaten over the head as they deserved. It is fuelled purely by human emotion. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

12th July 2008, 03:50 AM	#57 (permalink)
treevet Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 1,123	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree That alone has started many wars.

12th July 2008, 04:40 AM	#58 (permalink)
Sylvatica Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North East England Posts: 51	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree I'm confused. Its a dead tree so why save it?

12th July 2008, 07:03 AM	#59 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,740	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree Has treeseer came up with a spell to resurect dead trees yet? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

12th July 2008, 06:40 PM	#62 (permalink)
funarty Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: townsville Q.L.D. Australia Posts: 128	Re: Vancouver's Stanley Park Hollow Tree Yer they need to plant some new ones!!!

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