Tough tree!

Pigdog · 14th January 2008, 08:23 AM

Anybody ever climb one of these?

pomme · 14th January 2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pigdog

Anybody ever climb one of these?

Yeh done a few not fun

bigshea13 · 14th January 2008, 10:13 AM

yep. tried everything possible to get a bucket to the 15 nor so we did. ended up using a 30 foot extention ladder and a extending power trimmer. i saved a few of the longest thorns as momentos. i got one in the end of my knuckle. it swelled and stayed that way for several days. be careful with your ropes around them. they snag em and rip em up. afew taller ones we had to pole saws the clumps of thorns off so we could get up in them. they turned out fine.

JohN Dee · 14th January 2008, 12:53 PM

I've quoted a few but never did do the job.

My advice to you if you are going to climb it is: On your way up take a very cautious slow climb taking off all the spikes/thorns from the trunk. Getting them all off the trunk is important incase you slip when your limb walking and impale yourself.

Oh yeah one more tip, quote double the price of what you normally would for a tree that height in that situation. As Trev told me, with great risk there must be great reward.

treevet · 14th January 2008, 03:13 PM

I agree with taking off thorns on way up or prior as much as poss with pole saw. I ve removed and pruned many honey locusts (native). They tend to have clumps as in the picture and they usually do not cover the tree from top to bottom and side to side thank God. I ve cut a number of them down as they were giving HO flat tires. Thorns season and seem to petrify. They also seem to have some irritating substance as youmentioned. They re not quite as scary as the picture might suggest I don t think as you are real careful. I remember a guy having one go clear through the palm of his hand and out the other side though.

Pigdog · 14th January 2008, 04:55 PM

I remember growing up in Indiana and seeing those trees quite often. Once I stepped on some of those thorns and one pierced my ankle and remember not being able to walk for a couple of weeks. Very painful!
I believe if I was working as part of the ground crew on one of those trees, I'd call in sick!

Ekka · 14th January 2008, 06:46 PM

What an evil tree, screw that!

treevet · 14th January 2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

What an evil tree, screw that!

You know what Ekka, it is really not, again, quite as bad as it appears. It is also a very pretty tree and that why it has been engineered into a thornless cultival. It has small leaflets that give diffuse sunlight through the tree and isn t clogging. It has huge pods that give interest in the off season. As for the native thorned version, they scrape of quite easily with a handsaw or polesaw. The pain usually comes with a reach around and contacting one that you missed. LBut you usually reach around carefully. There isn t any on the branch ends. Clean up is very slow to say the least.

jim1nz · 16th January 2008, 02:38 AM

Yea, but in NZ the spikes are not as intence...usually

Therrin · 16th January 2008, 05:12 AM

Looks like a candidate for my 'welding leathers arbor garb'..... I'm telling ya, its hot and heavy but ya don't get poked over and over.

Pigdog · 16th January 2008, 06:23 AM

I don't know it leather gloves would offer much protection from those thorns. They sink in about half inch when you just think about grabbing one! Those thorns are pretty tough! Extremely sharp too!

newguy18 · 16th January 2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

What an evil tree, screw that!

are they worse than hawethornes?yes it looks evil but are they as evil as palms ekka?

JohN Dee · 16th January 2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pigdog

I don't know if leather gloves would offer much protection from those thorns.

They don't.

Welders gloves FTW. When we remove bouganvillea's I pack on 3 long sleeved shirts under my work shirt and pad up with welders gloves. Not one scratch at the end of the day

ronnyb · 18th January 2008, 06:32 AM

Not only do they have the big thorns on the trunk, there are smaller ones throughout the crown of the tree. Even the thornless cultivar will sometimes start to revert back, and you'll find some thorns in them as well.

arbdog · 20th January 2008, 06:22 AM

worked on a few here but never wiyh thorns that intense. You do get scratched and cut! We cut out 6.5 miles of Hawthorn hedge that wasnt much fun either.

arborjockey · 20th January 2008, 06:40 AM

black locust. Robinia pseudoacacia no problem. Just did one (jan 17th) Dont get stuck !

the thorns are toxic to some people.

newguy18 · 20th January 2008, 07:13 AM

what do you mean some people like if your allergic?if you wanna see me wear long sleeves gloves and all the crap including a face mask it'll be while cutting white oliender.

arbdog · 21st January 2008, 03:02 PM

They say the dust off of London Plane (Platinus x hispanica) can make you sleepy but ive took down a few and have always felt fine! I know Laurel and Yew are toxic but i wouldnt eat them myself!

14th January 2008, 08:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Pigdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 65	Tough tree! Anybody ever climb one of these?

14th January 2008, 10:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
bigshea13 Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 378	Re: Tough tree! yep. tried everything possible to get a bucket to the 15 nor so we did. ended up using a 30 foot extention ladder and a extending power trimmer. i saved a few of the longest thorns as momentos. i got one in the end of my knuckle. it swelled and stayed that way for several days. be careful with your ropes around them. they snag em and rip em up. afew taller ones we had to pole saws the clumps of thorns off so we could get up in them. they turned out fine.

14th January 2008, 12:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 838	Re: Tough tree! I've quoted a few but never did do the job. My advice to you if you are going to climb it is: On your way up take a very cautious slow climb taking off all the spikes/thorns from the trunk. Getting them all off the trunk is important incase you slip when your limb walking and impale yourself. Oh yeah one more tip, quote double the price of what you normally would for a tree that height in that situation. As Trev told me, with great risk there must be great reward. __________________ Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the moon. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

14th January 2008, 03:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
treevet Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 1,131	Re: Tough tree! I agree with taking off thorns on way up or prior as much as poss with pole saw. I ve removed and pruned many honey locusts (native). They tend to have clumps as in the picture and they usually do not cover the tree from top to bottom and side to side thank God. I ve cut a number of them down as they were giving HO flat tires. Thorns season and seem to petrify. They also seem to have some irritating substance as youmentioned. They re not quite as scary as the picture might suggest I don t think as you are real careful. I remember a guy having one go clear through the palm of his hand and out the other side though.

14th January 2008, 04:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pigdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 65	Re: Tough tree! I remember growing up in Indiana and seeing those trees quite often. Once I stepped on some of those thorns and one pierced my ankle and remember not being able to walk for a couple of weeks. Very painful! I believe if I was working as part of the ground crew on one of those trees, I'd call in sick!

14th January 2008, 06:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
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16th January 2008, 02:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: Tough tree! Yea, but in NZ the spikes are not as intence...usually __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

16th January 2008, 05:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,318	Re: Tough tree! Looks like a candidate for my 'welding leathers arbor garb'..... I'm telling ya, its hot and heavy but ya don't get poked over and over. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

16th January 2008, 06:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Pigdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 65	Re: Tough tree! I don't know it leather gloves would offer much protection from those thorns. They sink in about half inch when you just think about grabbing one! Those thorns are pretty tough! Extremely sharp too!

18th January 2008, 06:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
ronnyb Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 64	Re: Tough tree! Not only do they have the big thorns on the trunk, there are smaller ones throughout the crown of the tree. Even the thornless cultivar will sometimes start to revert back, and you'll find some thorns in them as well.

20th January 2008, 06:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
arbdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 104	Re: Tough tree! worked on a few here but never wiyh thorns that intense. You do get scratched and cut! We cut out 6.5 miles of Hawthorn hedge that wasnt much fun either.

20th January 2008, 06:40 AM	#16 (permalink)
arborjockey Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 140	Re: Tough tree! black locust. Robinia pseudoacacia no problem. Just did one (jan 17th) Dont get stuck ! the thorns are toxic to some people.

20th January 2008, 07:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,857	Re: Tough tree! what do you mean some people like if your allergic?if you wanna see me wear long sleeves gloves and all the crap including a face mask it'll be while cutting white oliender. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

21st January 2008, 03:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
arbdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 104	Re: Tough tree! They say the dust off of London Plane (Platinus x hispanica) can make you sleepy but ive took down a few and have always felt fine! I know Laurel and Yew are toxic but i wouldnt eat them myself!