So whadya get up to today.

Sean Freeman · 2nd February 2007, 05:03 AM

Yes sadly you are right there are no VPO's as such in either LGA Townsville or Thuringowa, and I'm not saying VPO's are the answer to all of the major problems we have managing vegetation in our Urban forest, but hell it would be nice to even have an imaginary stick to wave up here once in a while.

On the rare occasion that a tree of real significance is identified as being worth protection heaven help it if its in the way of someones duplex or sixpack unit development it'll suddenly go into leaf drop never to return with the same perfectly symmetrical borer holes I'm sure you've seen in Brissy

It's a slow process driving change up here, attitudes are very intrenched, neither private nor public tree owners have yet grasped the assets they are managing but little by little we'll get there.

SF

Ekka · 2nd February 2007, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa07

it'll suddenly go into leaf drop never to return with the same perfectly symmetrical borer holes I'm sure you've seen in Brissy

Yeah, they're the ryobicordless10mm borer which seem to enter the trunk at a 45 degree downward pointing angle whilst also pointing off to the left or right so the entire 2" hole bored by this critter is in the vascular cambium.

Sometimes they attack with such fierocity that they actually have scuff marks around the entry hole where there was a fight over who goes first. Others call this chuck marks as it's where some borers get chucked outta the hole and you can even see the sawdust swarf on the ground beneath.

Sean Freeman · 2nd February 2007, 07:04 AM

Oh yes LOL, I'll track down the photos of a property I went out too few yrs ago where the owner noticed his young Benjaminas declining leaf drop during the wet..so approached the fence line where these young trees where planted only to see each one surrounded by a disk of dead buffallo grass at the base and a tear drop shaped pattern pointing to the 5ft chain fence

Asked the client if he thought it odd his grass seemed to be dying off only under each of the failing trees

and that the pattern of dead grass looked like an enormous commar on the ground indicating who wrote the piece.

Some people are even too silly to get you mad.. either that or they just diodn't care if their neighbour comes round and shoots them for killing his little trees

SF

yooper · 2nd February 2007, 10:51 PM

hello all new to the sight here but do see some famillar names from other sights . just had to ad a little info of my day, got up at around seven to empty the dog ,shes a 15 yr old doberman with short hair so this time of the year here she doesent have much intrest in going out side...hech was only
-17 ...around -26c.. got the kiddies on the bus for school and shoveled the 15 inches of snow from last night outa da driveway. finalsy hit 0f around -17c at 10 so decided i beter finish the job i have right now at the ski hill brushing some of the runs...only bryshing them because of the mild winter so far... weve only had about 50 inches of snow so far compared to the nomal 160 or sooooo for this time of yr althought febuary is a good snow fall month perhaps well get a 100 inch or so ...damm hope not its been nice for me but not for the skiers nor snowbilers. got up on the hill finaly and finished my contract with them today although it got up to about 7f the winds where nasty....the runs are on the north side of the hill with winds from lake superior coming from the north...lake is only about a quter mile away makes for a cool breez. winter is slow for me so i cant complain about work. and being i started my tree service last march i take what i can get. next week i have a very large weeping willow to remove with the highs being below 0 and lows being in the
-20f ...-30c i think ill wait till thurs to do the tree ..suposed to be a nice day then high 17f..-10c but all in all i cant complain life is good and there no bugs out in the winter to suck the blood out of me ya all have a good day eh

Sean Freeman · 3rd February 2007, 12:08 AM

Crikey yooper those temps are enough to test the keenest fella

Man i haven't touched snow in 16yrs, we get snow in Oz just not where I am, and I've skied and skated in Europe in a lifetime past.

Just this last fortnight we had rain in some of our western towns and communities for the first time in 6yrs, some of those kids had grown up never having seen rain!!! Thank the gods for the wet.

SF

yooper · 3rd February 2007, 09:14 AM

wow no rain in six years thats somthing else almost seems unheard of sure glad to see they finaly got some

Sean Freeman · 3rd February 2007, 01:10 PM

Yep, its beenlong time coming alright checked the stats on the met site here and this recent rain broke records that had stood for 68yrs in some districts, thst was as long as they'd been keeping accurate records.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/curren...shtml#extremes

Sure makes the survival of some of our older trees out there even more astounding

SF

Ekka · 7th February 2007, 01:28 AM

I edited a video, sharpened some chains and did some quotes. Tomorrow is an action day though.

a_lopa · 7th February 2007, 02:11 AM

Knocked out a few previously topped gums.

JayD · 11th February 2007, 03:13 PM

we were going to whach a stand of palms today but the heavens have opened up and it's bucketing down as I type..Dam...so this bunch of palms (Cocas) lives another day

Roller · 13th February 2007, 12:06 PM

Spent the day quoting at a school, I spent the entire day their,with an employee I might add.

We were pricing trees from a survey,supposedly carried out by a Pro consultant lol,he missed a huge leaning [root plate gone] tree with Armillaria,I called him up and said I cant find this so and so tree on the survey,and I pretty sure its shot to bits..

Out he came lol said thanks for saving his bacon lol he said one of his staff did the survey,you got to laugh..

Like I said I was running around looking at trees and working from a plan,not one of the trees had a tree tag on it.

I nearly forgot to mention ,the school are getting 6 quotes,had I have known that ,I wouldn't have bothered bidding the job,6 quotes what an insult ..

Ekka · 13th February 2007, 01:15 PM

Damn Roller, where do you draw the line on this free quoting BS!

6 Quotes and guaranteed the school goes the cheapest, and what do you get for your time lost?

I went to a school here for a so called "free quote". The groundsman walked me around the school wanting to know what to do/ what's wrong with about 12 trees and write it down, they even gave me the A4 paper to do that.

So dumb ole Eric writes it all out what to do etc and hands a quote in .... never got the job, 3 hours wasted and you go past and all the work done via my spec.

Try getting a building inspection for free!!!!!!

justoon · 13th February 2007, 02:31 PM

Ekka the whole free quoting thing is a fine line.Some jobs you just have to do it that way.I'm in a little bit of a different situation where i have to find the work to keep our service guys going.For owner/operators it is a little bit different because when your not cutting something down you are not earning but you still have to find the work and apart of that is quoting.

JayD · 13th February 2007, 07:43 PM

I agree with justoon you have to free quote, if you dont most times you miss out,I've tried it comes of the total price but they sour strait away,and if your not quoteing this week your not working next.

and we whacked more palms today,glad to be finished today.

l2edneck · 13th February 2007, 09:30 PM

trimmed some palms this morn then had dinner wiff my g/f..

all an all a good day.........

justoon · 13th February 2007, 09:32 PM

You guys are starting to give me a complex.Everytime I get on here someone is talking about whacking palm trees.

by the time we move into the southern market there isnt going to be any palms left

Come on guys be nice, love your palms,trim them,feed them

but please dont kill them.

Ekka · 13th February 2007, 10:09 PM

Where are you from Mr Palm Lover?

We only whack the bad ones.

7th February 2007, 01:28 AM	#33 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	I edited a video, sharpened some chains and did some quotes. Tomorrow is an action day though. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

7th February 2007, 02:11 AM	#34 (permalink)
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13th February 2007, 01:15 PM	#37 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	Damn Roller, where do you draw the line on this free quoting BS! 6 Quotes and guaranteed the school goes the cheapest, and what do you get for your time lost? I went to a school here for a so called "free quote". The groundsman walked me around the school wanting to know what to do/ what's wrong with about 12 trees and write it down, they even gave me the A4 paper to do that. So dumb ole Eric writes it all out what to do etc and hands a quote in .... never got the job, 3 hours wasted and you go past and all the work done via my spec. Try getting a building inspection for free!!!!!! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

13th February 2007, 07:43 PM	#39 (permalink)
JayD Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 821	Free Quotes I agree with justoon you have to free quote, if you dont most times you miss out,I've tried it comes of the total price but they sour strait away,and if your not quoteing this week your not working next. and we whacked more palms today,glad to be finished today.

13th February 2007, 10:09 PM	#42 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	Where are you from Mr Palm Lover? We only whack the bad ones. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

2nd February 2007, 05:03 AM	#26 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Yes sadly you are right there are no VPO's as such in either LGA Townsville or Thuringowa, and I'm not saying VPO's are the answer to all of the major problems we have managing vegetation in our Urban forest, but hell it would be nice to even have an imaginary stick to wave up here once in a while. On the rare occasion that a tree of real significance is identified as being worth protection heaven help it if its in the way of someones duplex or sixpack unit development it'll suddenly go into leaf drop never to return with the same perfectly symmetrical borer holes I'm sure you've seen in Brissy It's a slow process driving change up here, attitudes are very intrenched, neither private nor public tree owners have yet grasped the assets they are managing but little by little we'll get there. SF

2nd February 2007, 07:04 AM	#28 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Oh yes LOL, I'll track down the photos of a property I went out too few yrs ago where the owner noticed his young Benjaminas declining leaf drop during the wet..so approached the fence line where these young trees where planted only to see each one surrounded by a disk of dead buffallo grass at the base and a tear drop shaped pattern pointing to the 5ft chain fence Asked the client if he thought it odd his grass seemed to be dying off only under each of the failing trees and that the pattern of dead grass looked like an enormous commar on the ground indicating who wrote the piece. Some people are even too silly to get you mad.. either that or they just diodn't care if their neighbour comes round and shoots them for killing his little trees SF

2nd February 2007, 10:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
yooper Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upper Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 72	hello all new to the sight here but do see some famillar names from other sights . just had to ad a little info of my day, got up at around seven to empty the dog ,shes a 15 yr old doberman with short hair so this time of the year here she doesent have much intrest in going out side...hech was only -17 ...around -26c.. got the kiddies on the bus for school and shoveled the 15 inches of snow from last night outa da driveway. finalsy hit 0f around -17c at 10 so decided i beter finish the job i have right now at the ski hill brushing some of the runs...only bryshing them because of the mild winter so far... weve only had about 50 inches of snow so far compared to the nomal 160 or sooooo for this time of yr althought febuary is a good snow fall month perhaps well get a 100 inch or so ...damm hope not its been nice for me but not for the skiers nor snowbilers. got up on the hill finaly and finished my contract with them today although it got up to about 7f the winds where nasty....the runs are on the north side of the hill with winds from lake superior coming from the north...lake is only about a quter mile away makes for a cool breez. winter is slow for me so i cant complain about work. and being i started my tree service last march i take what i can get. next week i have a very large weeping willow to remove with the highs being below 0 and lows being in the -20f ...-30c i think ill wait till thurs to do the tree ..suposed to be a nice day then high 17f..-10c but all in all i cant complain life is good and there no bugs out in the winter to suck the blood out of me ya all have a good day eh

3rd February 2007, 12:08 AM	#30 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Crikey yooper those temps are enough to test the keenest fella Man i haven't touched snow in 16yrs, we get snow in Oz just not where I am, and I've skied and skated in Europe in a lifetime past. Just this last fortnight we had rain in some of our western towns and communities for the first time in 6yrs, some of those kids had grown up never having seen rain!!! Thank the gods for the wet. SF

3rd February 2007, 09:14 AM	#31 (permalink)
yooper Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upper Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 72	wow no rain in six years thats somthing else almost seems unheard of sure glad to see they finaly got some

3rd February 2007, 01:10 PM	#32 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Yep, its beenlong time coming alright checked the stats on the met site here and this recent rain broke records that had stood for 68yrs in some districts, thst was as long as they'd been keeping accurate records. http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/curren...shtml#extremes Sure makes the survival of some of our older trees out there even more astounding SF

11th February 2007, 03:13 PM	#35 (permalink)
JayD Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 821	we were going to whach a stand of palms today but the heavens have opened up and it's bucketing down as I type..Dam...so this bunch of palms (Cocas) lives another day

13th February 2007, 12:06 PM	#36 (permalink)
Roller Fly'n Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 190	Spent the day quoting at a school, I spent the entire day their,with an employee I might add. We were pricing trees from a survey,supposedly carried out by a Pro consultant lol,he missed a huge leaning [root plate gone] tree with Armillaria,I called him up and said I cant find this so and so tree on the survey,and I pretty sure its shot to bits.. Out he came lol said thanks for saving his bacon lol he said one of his staff did the survey,you got to laugh.. Like I said I was running around looking at trees and working from a plan,not one of the trees had a tree tag on it. I nearly forgot to mention ,the school are getting 6 quotes,had I have known that ,I wouldn't have bothered bidding the job,6 quotes what an insult ..

13th February 2007, 02:31 PM	#38 (permalink)
justoon Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boyne Island Posts: 63	Ekka the whole free quoting thing is a fine line.Some jobs you just have to do it that way.I'm in a little bit of a different situation where i have to find the work to keep our service guys going.For owner/operators it is a little bit different because when your not cutting something down you are not earning but you still have to find the work and apart of that is quoting.

13th February 2007, 09:30 PM	#40 (permalink)
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 49	trimmed some palms this morn then had dinner wiff my g/f.. all an all a good day.........

13th February 2007, 09:32 PM	#41 (permalink)
justoon Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boyne Island Posts: 63	You guys are starting to give me a complex.Everytime I get on here someone is talking about whacking palm trees. by the time we move into the southern market there isnt going to be any palms left Come on guys be nice, love your palms,trim them,feed them but please dont kill them.