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3rd August 2007, 09:20 PM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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|  Significant Trees As I'm sure some of you know from my posts I have a few obsessions, beyond the general obsession about trees, one of which is ancient/historic/veteran/historic trees. I spend a fair bit of my time trawling the net and physically travelling around my region finding such trees (BTW very few where I actually live  ) so am always surprised and interested when I come across examples.Had a conversation with treeseer not long ago about how I often wish trees were more sensitive to the damage we inflict on them, as then perhaps we as a community would treat trees with a fraction of the care we apply to roses or orchids!! So when I came across the example of the Tree Of Life near Bahrain I thought I would use it as a starter for this thread about significant trees........ The Tree of Life : Shajarat al-Hayah is a 400-year old mesquite tree in Bahrain which is considered a natural wonder. This unique tree stands alone in the desert about 1.2 miles (two kilometers) from the Jebel Dukhan. The source of water for this tree still remains a mystery, and this is still the case in a country where drilling exploration has revealed much of the geological mysteries hidden from the surface. I'm not suggesting anything mystical just that this mesquite has access to water that has not been located, they'll do that trees!  Here's a map with the location (roughly) shown in red..can't give you a satellite shot since I don't pay google for that right..  So what you can do is bring up google maps on your pc then find Bahrain, zoom into the rough area and click satellite and zoom on in..you'll find the tree easily!! Here's some shot taken through 2002-2005   
__________________ Sean  Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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3rd August 2007, 10:03 PM
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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|  If you have Google Earth you can type in tree of life and it takes you straight there with 2 more pics and a link to their forum where it gets a mention. It is a wonder that it's there, for that long! You'd wonder about shifting sands burying or exposing it over that time.
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4th August 2007, 04:28 PM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Some parts of the world have more than their fair share of historic and veteran trees Scotland for example...just greedy if you ask me, so many check this site for a good list and the means to buy the book form the Forestry Commission of Scotland http://www.treefestscotland.org.uk/forestry/INFD-6TVJZF I'll pick just one, I love trees that swallow stuff!! In the small village of Brig o'Turk (great name!) is a 100yr old sycamore Acer pseudoplatanus that has swallowed a bicycle. 
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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4th August 2007, 04:50 PM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| You'd just love to be able to trace the roots down through the soil/sand and find just what kind of moisture levels exist and where...rather like the older trees out west here I suspect that it would have seasonal associations with fungi to be able to effectively draw in soil resources. Here's a better bike eating tree from the USA Vashon Island Washington 
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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4th August 2007, 05:03 PM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Here's one for all the Southern Queenslanders a giant camphor Cinnamomum camphora laurel in Takeo city Japan  There's a website for potential tourists http://www.pref.saga.lg.jp/at-conten...i073/index.htm Maybe some of the local councils down your way should push the tourist angle on your camphors Ekka!! 
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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4th August 2007, 05:59 PM
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| Astronaut  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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| Great thread Boa, that is one HUGE friggen Camphor'... They're a huge weed/pest down here. Been a HEAP of court cases where these trees have been removed off private land by the local council(s). That tree of life sure does look good! I cant get my google earth working to look at it.
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4th August 2007, 07:00 PM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| This is one of the oddest stories I've come across Decatur County Courthouse built in 1870 soon showed the presence of some sapling growing out of the roofing, so they cut them out (as you would) but then in 1875 another sapling appears growing away and this time is left till 1929 (1929!!!  what did all the roofers go on strike WTF???) Anyhow in 29' this small tree dies only to be replaced by more saplings in the roof, so and so on and so on...don't believe me..... It really is wierd, now they even have a festival, tourists come from all over to see the tree...check here to view a range of photos from the 1890's onwards http://my.voyager.net/~mfhaston/GreensburgIN.html Really is the strangest thing...so next time you see a crap roofing job think on maybe the plumber is just trying to get another tourist attraction started!
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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5th August 2007, 01:00 AM
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| Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney
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| Hi Boa, A book you would enjoy is "MEETINGS WITH REMARKABLE TREES" by Thomas Pakenhan, published by Phoenix Illustrated, Orion Publishing Group, 5 Upper St. Martins Lane LondonWC2H 9EA. Great pics of ancient trees in UK, Europe and Asia. First pubished by George Weidenfield and Nicholson Ltd. Steve |
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5th August 2007, 01:25 AM
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Tree of Knowledge Barcaldine Australia Well, I'd like to add a significant tree story pertaining to Australian politics.  Back in 1890 era it's alleged but not proven that the Australian Labor Party was born after a shearers strike under the shade of a ghost gum in Barcaldine, now historically known as The Tree of Knowledge.  However around May 2006 the tree had a large amount of weed killer poured onto it's roots (30 litres) and had a long struggle as people tried to save it. However on 3 October 2006 the tree was officially pronounced dead. In an effort to preserve the tree, it was uprooted and transported to Brisbane 29 July 2007 Tree of Knowledge poisoned : ABC Western Queensland 'Tree of Knowledge' cuttings sales unlikely. 04/10/2006. ABC News Online Tree of Knowledge uprooted | The Courier-Mail The irony is the current Labor premier for Queensland went to Barcaldine to hold a farewell service and donate $1.4million for a memorial centre, he was greeted by 500 angry protesters who threw water filled projectiles at him in the middle of a drought. They were protesting about the recent council amalgamations in Queensland. Premier Beattie said, "Isn't it great to see (that spirit) is not dead," he said amidst the shouts.
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5th August 2007, 02:57 AM
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| Astronaut  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin
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| Tree thats seen it all,taken from http://www.kiddofspeed.com/default.htm Backdrop is cherynobyl nuclear reactor.  |
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5th August 2007, 03:47 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Those pics from Angkor Wat are a powerful reminder of the relentless pressure from nature...you know the city of Angkor was a bustling metropolis when London was just a mucky village, but given half a chance and the forest will take back the land it once held. The tropics accelerate that process for sure. The pic near Chernobyl I've not seen before thats really strong maybe because its B&W or maybe its more the subject matter...whatever the reason its a good one, it moves you in some way just looking at it.
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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5th August 2007, 03:50 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| The whole Tree of Knowledge debacle makes me angry Ekka, it epitomises all thats wrong about the management of our urban forest and worse the lack of respect and significance we as a community give to our past.....something I'm still getting my head around about Oz even after 20yrs here, its something I intend to change BTW.
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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17th September 2007, 07:32 PM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Re: Significant Trees We have a fair bit as a species to learn from the trees, and the significant trees that occupy such a big part of my thoughts impact on my attitudes to all aspects of tree work. There are some plants that live a long time some a very long time, and some well........................... Earth's oldest living inhabitant "Methuselah" at 4,767 years, has lived more than a millennium longer than any other tree.   I could write much about how much we have gained just from the small amount of research that has been done on these most extraordinary trees..not least re-writing the geological time book!! But go here NOVA Online | Methuselah Tree visit each section and absorb the magnitude of what these diminuative trees represent..they have outlasted all the civilisations that existed when they were saplings and chances are they'll out live ours too. Also here Ancient Bristlecone Pine Go here to read an excellent review of some of the emotion and heat connected to the events surrounding the discovery and damage to the oldest known tree on earth Oldest Living Tree Tells All, by Michael P. Cohen : Essays : Terrain.org
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran Last edited by Sean Freeman : 17th September 2007 at 08:05 PM. Reason: addition of article link |
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