Significant Trees

Sean Freeman · 2nd December 2007, 08:58 PM

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i dont want to explain what 6 drunk sailors would take a cab 15 miles into the dessert for!!

I'll assume it was the same reason that most of the Ex-pat oil workers go into the desert to temp tent towns......

Safer than getting caught with a beer in the city and ending up being flogged in the main square!!!!!!

RandyMac · 12th January 2008, 05:24 PM

The Council Madrone has Fallen
We used to stop and see this Madrone everytime we had the chance. I saw it way back before it started to actively shed limbs. My Uncle snagged a branch shortly after it fell, it is still growing.

newguy18 · 12th January 2008, 05:43 PM

looks like it was a real nice tree at one time.

Sean Freeman · 12th January 2008, 06:38 PM

Well its very sobering to see when an ancient tree finally fails particularly when it happens suddenly in a storm say. Do you know if any shoots did appear from the root system? It would be a pity if noone had tried to take cuttings from the original tree before that failure. It is often a task eagerly taken on by University or college hort depts, something as Arbs we should encourage them to do, very long lived trees always have some genetic advantage over the hundreds and thousands of related trees that did not survive so long.

Thanks for the article, it was as Newguy said a very impressive tree

dguntertrees · 17th February 2008, 07:47 PM

Sean,

I am with you all the way re: veteran trees, and I know numerous others around this great brown land who feel the same way (Cass for one).

So, whadda ya wanna do about it?

Hopefully, attached are some pics from Ankor Wat in Cambodia. amate just got back from there...don't need gpr for these roots!

Sean Freeman · 18th February 2008, 07:05 AM

I do have a plan..trust me! Though it is neither as quick nor as easy as I would like!!!!

arborjockey · 18th February 2008, 09:50 AM

Here is a website of some old trees here in the u.s. Did anyone see the program where they were harvisting trees that had fallen many years ago New Zealand? The trees had landed in, I believe mud theirfore preserved. www.rmtrr.org/oldlist.htm try googling tenthousandtreesblogspot this guy most be a trust fund kid. He has some great photos from around the world.

funarty · 11th March 2008, 11:04 PM

Hi Sean, I found out they are going to chop down those old trees at the railway yards that shade flinders st west next month ! This town is turning into a desert.I love going past them on my way to work! It's so cool there .Bloody developers.They must be significent?a part of townsvilles history??? But councils just don't care

How can we save them???

Sean Freeman · 11th March 2008, 11:55 PM

Not sure I agree about the desert thing, when I came out in 88" there were very few streets with avenues of trees, parks were pretty barren, since then the local councils (yes folks we've got two.....though not for much longer!) have carried out massive plantings programs, and the result is a much greener looking city, and its streets.

Nor would I classify those trees as significant (if they are the ones indicated in red), they do provide increased amenity values along that strech of footpath, but the species mix is dominated by exotics and the clearance pruning over decades has destroyed the form and structure of their canopies.

Hopefully the council will have required the developer to landscape the entire length of that street.

Just out of interest I have highlighted in yellow the trees on the site that could be regarded as significant...the single fig planted to provide shade for railway workers et the end of three workshop sheds..this tree will doubtless be trashed (if not already) and the mangrove along the estuary edge, again i fear will be ripped out as the canals are created....oh lovely another Varsity Lakes (though admitedly without the clown trees!)

funarty · 12th March 2008, 02:41 PM

Sorry but I'm a greeny and most old trees are worth something to me.I believe in respecting my elders and even if they are trees.Looking at that photo it looks like a desert to me!There was nice bushland down the bruce hyway but no more.Just dog boxes one after the other all with massive air cons!Cant you build around trees?Well at least the wild life is coming to my house

c ya

dguntertrees · 13th March 2008, 03:11 AM

Hi Funarty,

No need to apologise for being a greeny around here.

Thing is, you gotta start somewhere, all significant trees start small.
Councils have a huge responsibility to do the right thing, not only by protecting their veteran trees, but also by caring for and nurturing their younger tree stock. Oh, and planting responsibly....And, given the paucity of veteran trees in SE Queensland, by researching ways of encouraging the things that are generally anathema to Arborists....selectively harming specific trees to encourage decay and hollowing, thus bringing back some of the lost habitat that will, in turn, encourage native wildlife back to the coast.

Dave

funarty · 13th March 2008, 08:19 PM

Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply, yer but small trees take so long to grow! It's such a pain whenever I love a trees around here or a bunch of them some bastard always cuts them down! I think I'm gonna stop looking!!!

Oh well

Regards Faun

funarty · 13th March 2008, 08:23 PM

Oh yer and councils SUCK!

COUNCIL

Tilia · 14th March 2008, 01:16 AM

Heres one for the Ozzie's to enjoy. This is a Eucalyptus veminalis. Theres a small stand of these biggens, the tallest is meant to be 91m. Tallest of its species. Located in the north west of Tasmania.

2nd photo- tallest on right (I think).

Sean Freeman · 14th March 2008, 07:42 AM

Great stuff Tilia!!!

Don't you just love it when you come across such beauties in the bush..

Sean Freeman · 25th March 2008, 02:34 AM

This isn't exactly breaking news but I like to keep an eye or ear on tree issues close to my heart so its heartening to read that the Camperdown Council are it would seem carrying out their promise to adopt a more sensitive approach to the avenue of elms...

Quote:

Council to Trial New Elm Replacement Method

A new method of replacing the Elms in Camperdown’s Heritage listed Finlay Avenue will be trialed by Corangamite Shire Council in Autumn. The Council decision was based on recommendations from the Elm Tree Reference Group.

“Council decided to trial planting replacement trees in between existing trees in Finlay Avenue in response to a decision by the Elm Tree Reference Group.” Lyall Bond Corangamite Shire Environment officer said “The Management Plan had initially ruled out this option due to arborist advice that trees would not perform as well when required to compete with neighbouring mature elms for nutrients, water and sunlight. The trial will depend heavily on the assistance of Friends of the Camperdown Elms who have undertaken to water the new trees.”

“The deferral in implementing the block replacement strategy, is an ideal opportunity to test the individual planting method, which was originally considered in the development of the adopted Finlay Avenue Restoration Strategy. By trialling this method we will not be damaging the feel or look of the Avenue and will still be able to implement an appropriate restoration strategy into the future”.

Council will consider spending the $75,000 it allocated for pruning and planting the Avenue on a more extensive pruning program after the planting program was deferred by Council at its September meeting. Council will consider this Elm Tree Reference Group recommendation at its meeting in January as part of its mid year budget review.

“Council acknowledges that there are a range of options open to it for the management of the Heritage listed Avenue and is committed to continue working with Heritage Victoria, arborists and the community to get the best outcome for the Avenue.” Mayor Ruth Gstrein said.

For more information please call Sophie Segafredo Corangamite Shire Manager Strategic Planning & Environment on (03) 5593 7100.

Hopefully one day not too long away I might get to see these beauties in person....

12th January 2008, 05:24 PM	#27 (permalink)
RandyMac Cruisin' Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NW California Posts: 68	Re: Significant Trees The Council Madrone has Fallen We used to stop and see this Madrone everytime we had the chance. I saw it way back before it started to actively shed limbs. My Uncle snagged a branch shortly after it fell, it is still growing.

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12th January 2008, 06:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: Significant Trees Well its very sobering to see when an ancient tree finally fails particularly when it happens suddenly in a storm say. Do you know if any shoots did appear from the root system? It would be a pity if noone had tried to take cuttings from the original tree before that failure. It is often a task eagerly taken on by University or college hort depts, something as Arbs we should encourage them to do, very long lived trees always have some genetic advantage over the hundreds and thousands of related trees that did not survive so long. Thanks for the article, it was as Newguy said a very impressive tree __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

18th February 2008, 07:05 AM	#31 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: Significant Trees I do have a plan..trust me! Though it is neither as quick nor as easy as I would like!!!! __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

18th February 2008, 09:50 AM	#32 (permalink)
arborjockey Fly'n Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 118	Re: Significant Trees Here is a website of some old trees here in the u.s. Did anyone see the program where they were harvisting trees that had fallen many years ago New Zealand? The trees had landed in, I believe mud theirfore preserved. www.rmtrr.org/oldlist.htm try googling tenthousandtreesblogspot this guy most be a trust fund kid. He has some great photos from around the world.

11th March 2008, 11:04 PM	#33 (permalink)
funarty Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: townsville Q.L.D. Australia Posts: 68	Re: Significant Trees Hi Sean, I found out they are going to chop down those old trees at the railway yards that shade flinders st west next month ! This town is turning into a desert.I love going past them on my way to work! It's so cool there .Bloody developers.They must be significent?a part of townsvilles history??? But councils just don't careHow can we save them???

12th March 2008, 02:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
funarty Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: townsville Q.L.D. Australia Posts: 68	Re: Significant Trees Sorry but I'm a greeny and most old trees are worth something to me.I believe in respecting my elders and even if they are trees.Looking at that photo it looks like a desert to me!There was nice bushland down the bruce hyway but no more.Just dog boxes one after the other all with massive air cons!Cant you build around trees?Well at least the wild life is coming to my housec ya

13th March 2008, 03:11 AM	#36 (permalink)
dguntertrees Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mudgeeraba, SE Queensland Posts: 94	Re: Significant Trees Hi Funarty, No need to apologise for being a greeny around here. Thing is, you gotta start somewhere, all significant trees start small. Councils have a huge responsibility to do the right thing, not only by protecting their veteran trees, but also by caring for and nurturing their younger tree stock. Oh, and planting responsibly....And, given the paucity of veteran trees in SE Queensland, by researching ways of encouraging the things that are generally anathema to Arborists....selectively harming specific trees to encourage decay and hollowing, thus bringing back some of the lost habitat that will, in turn, encourage native wildlife back to the coast. Dave

13th March 2008, 08:19 PM	#37 (permalink)
funarty Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: townsville Q.L.D. Australia Posts: 68	Re: Significant Trees Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply, yer but small trees take so long to grow! It's such a pain whenever I love a trees around here or a bunch of them some bastard always cuts them down! I think I'm gonna stop looking!!!Oh wellRegards Faun

13th March 2008, 08:23 PM	#38 (permalink)
funarty Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: townsville Q.L.D. Australia Posts: 68	Re: Significant Trees Oh yer and councils SUCK! COUNCIL

14th March 2008, 07:42 AM	#40 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: Significant Trees Great stuff Tilia!!! Don't you just love it when you come across such beauties in the bush.. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

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