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Old 19th February 2008, 02:05 AM   #31
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I do have a plan..trust me! Though it is neither as quick nor as easy as I would like!!!!
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Here is a website of some old trees here in the u.s. Did anyone see the program where they were harvisting trees that had fallen many years ago New Zealand? The trees had landed in, I believe mud theirfore preserved. www.rmtrr.org/oldlist.htm try googling tenthousandtreesblogspot this guy most be a trust fund kid. He has some great photos from around the world.
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Hi Sean, I found out they are going to chop down those old trees at the railway yards that shade flinders st west next month ! This town is turning into a desert.I love going past them on my way to work! It's so cool there .Bloody developers.They must be significent?a part of townsvilles history??? But councils just don't careHow can we save them???
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Not sure I agree about the desert thing, when I came out in 88" there were very few streets with avenues of trees, parks were pretty barren, since then the local councils (yes folks we've got two.....though not for much longer!) have carried out massive plantings programs, and the result is a much greener looking city, and its streets.



Nor would I classify those trees as significant (if they are the ones indicated in red), they do provide increased amenity values along that strech of footpath, but the species mix is dominated by exotics and the clearance pruning over decades has destroyed the form and structure of their canopies.

Hopefully the council will have required the developer to landscape the entire length of that street.

Just out of interest I have highlighted in yellow the trees on the site that could be regarded as significant...the single fig planted to provide shade for railway workers et the end of three workshop sheds..this tree will doubtless be trashed (if not already) and the mangrove along the estuary edge, again i fear will be ripped out as the canals are created....oh lovely another Varsity Lakes (though admitedly without the clown trees!)
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Sorry but I'm a greeny and most old trees are worth something to me.I believe in respecting my elders and even if they are trees.Looking at that photo it looks like a desert to me!There was nice bushland down the bruce hyway but no more.Just dog boxes one after the other all with massive air cons!Cant you build around trees?Well at least the wild life is coming to my housec ya
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Hi Funarty,

No need to apologise for being a greeny around here.
Thing is, you gotta start somewhere, all significant trees start small.
Councils have a huge responsibility to do the right thing, not only by protecting their veteran trees, but also by caring for and nurturing their younger tree stock. Oh, and planting responsibly....And, given the paucity of veteran trees in SE Queensland, by researching ways of encouraging the things that are generally anathema to Arborists....selectively harming specific trees to encourage decay and hollowing, thus bringing back some of the lost habitat that will, in turn, encourage native wildlife back to the coast.

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Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply, yer but small trees take so long to grow! It's such a pain whenever I love a trees around here or a bunch of them some bastard always cuts them down! I think I'm gonna stop looking!!!Oh wellRegards Faun
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Oh yer and councils SUCK!
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Heres one for the Ozzie's to enjoy. This is a Eucalyptus veminalis. Theres a small stand of these biggens, the tallest is meant to be 91m. Tallest of its species. Located in the north west of Tasmania.

2nd photo- tallest on right (I think).
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Great stuff Tilia!!! Don't you just love it when you come across such beauties in the bush..
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This isn't exactly breaking news but I like to keep an eye or ear on tree issues close to my heart so its heartening to read that the Camperdown Council are it would seem carrying out their promise to adopt a more sensitive approach to the avenue of elms...

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A new method of replacing the Elms in Camperdown’s Heritage listed Finlay Avenue will be trialed by Corangamite Shire Council in Autumn. The Council decision was based on recommendations from the Elm Tree Reference Group.

“Council decided to trial planting replacement trees in between existing trees in Finlay Avenue in response to a decision by the Elm Tree Reference Group.” Lyall Bond Corangamite Shire Environment officer said “The Management Plan had initially ruled out this option due to arborist advice that trees would not perform as well when required to compete with neighbouring mature elms for nutrients, water and sunlight. The trial will depend heavily on the assistance of Friends of the Camperdown Elms who have undertaken to water the new trees.”

“The deferral in implementing the block replacement strategy, is an ideal opportunity to test the individual planting method, which was originally considered in the development of the adopted Finlay Avenue Restoration Strategy. By trialling this method we will not be damaging the feel or look of the Avenue and will still be able to implement an appropriate restoration strategy into the future”.

Council will consider spending the $75,000 it allocated for pruning and planting the Avenue on a more extensive pruning program after the planting program was deferred by Council at its September meeting. Council will consider this Elm Tree Reference Group recommendation at its meeting in January as part of its mid year budget review.

“Council acknowledges that there are a range of options open to it for the management of the Heritage listed Avenue and is committed to continue working with Heritage Victoria, arborists and the community to get the best outcome for the Avenue.” Mayor Ruth Gstrein said.

For more information please call Sophie Segafredo Corangamite Shire Manager Strategic Planning & Environment on (03) 5593 7100.
Hopefully one day not too long away I might get to see these beauties in person....
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Old 26th March 2008, 11:09 PM   #42
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Well thats An Amazing View Dear ...!

hey Some time ago i Saw some man kind tree ...!
like womens "N" some *********Stuff...!


Well now i forget the link ...!

Did you have some thing like this like Status...?
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Old 27th March 2008, 04:25 AM   #43
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Along the same lines as the tree of life.

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The Tree of Ténéré in the early 1970s. © Krohn PhotosBecause trees are so abundant, it is rare for a single one to become well-known. Some trees become distinguished due to their historical significance. The Bodhi Tree in India, for example, is where Buddha is thought to have gained enlightenment; and the Liberty Tree in 18th-century Boston was a gathering place for American colonists who objected to British rule.

A few trees are also worthy of note due to being record-holders. The state of California is home to several such trees: the tallest one known, a 155.5 meter redwood called Hyperion; the largest, the 1,450 cubic meter giant sequoia named General Sherman; and the oldest, a 4,800-year-old bristlecone pine known as Methuselah. It's difficult to be certain of which individual tree is the most remote. For several decades that distinction belonged to the Tree of Ténéré, an acacia tree standing alone in the vast, hostile expanse of the Sahara Desert. However, in 1973 this tree met an exceedingly improbable end.

Also referred to by the French 'arbre du Ténéré', millennia ago the tree was part of a sizable forest. Gradually, climate change reduced the area to a desert as the trees perished. The Ténéré region became one of the most inhospitable areas, with little vegetation and an average annual rainfall of only 2.5 cm. Water ended up being scarce even underground. By sometime around the early 20th century, a small group of the thorned, yellow-flowered acacias were all that remained of the trees of the Ténéré. Over time, all but one died, leaving it as the only surviving tree in a 400 kilometer radius.

As a result, the three-meter-tall tree was one of the few interruptions in the landscape of sand. Visible from a considerable distance, it became a landmark for desert travelers. Its ability to survive on an unforgiving patch of sand was a mystery at first, but passers-by reasoned that there must be a water source. During the winter of 1938-1939, the French military coordinated the digging of a nearby well to increase the utility of the site. Workers discovered that the tree's root system was drawing water from a source 35 meters underground. Meanwhile, sometime during or after the construction of the well, a truck at the site backed into the tree and broke off one of its main branches. The tree managed to survive the impact, though its previously distinct 'Y' shape was lost.

In the decades that followed, caravans shipping grain, salt, and dates across the Sahara often stopped to take water from this well. The tree was so essential to locals' navigation of the large, barren desert that damaging it was inconceivable. As Michel Lesourd of the Central Service of Saharan Affairs wrote after seeing the tree in 1939, "[t]he Acacia has become a living lighthouse." It appeared on large-scale maps of the desert as one of the sole reference points.

The metal sculpture that replaced the Tree of Ténéré.By the 1970s many of the passing caravans were trucks rather than camels. In 1973, one such truck was being driven by a Libyan - allegedly drunk - and despite the flat, wide-open expanse he lost control of his vehicle. The truck veered off the road and slammed into the only tree in the entire region. This second impact with an automobile was more than the solitary Tree of Ténéré could bear, and it snapped from its trunk. It was estimated to have been 300 years old.

In November of that year the remains of the legendary tree were retrieved and transported by another truck to the Niger National Museum in the capital of Niamey, where it still resides today. At the Tree of Ténéré's original location, an anonymous artist constructed a metal monument made up of recycled pipes, fuel barrels and discarded auto parts. Thus the location still stands as a landmark - at least until the next drunken truck driver comes by.




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Interested why they call them Camperdown elms Sean. Camperdown elms are a graft species and are weeping??
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Yes you're right ??????: Camperdown Elm its the name of the town....have never seen a camperdown elm in the bark but they do look lovely...
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Sometimes its great to read a good news story in relation to trees, instead of poisoning or late night lopping.....
The River Basin Kids eNewspaper, February 2008 Issue 14: Community helping a 1000 year old!

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Farmer's mission to save a 1000-year-old tree - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Wishing all of you a safe and pleasant Friday afternoon/evening
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Thats really cool a truely uplifting story for sharing
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Great story,thanks for sharing Sean.
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Wow,
I dont know about you, but i'd like to meet Mr. Paul Haw.
What a great bloke.



Most farmers would have broken out the chainsaw and cut it down for firewood.

1 million litres he donated
We pay about $1 per 1,000 litres of water here in Adelaide, but that's out of the tap, not delivered in a truck.
So that's at least $1,000 worth of water he has donated to that tree.

I bet he's the sort of bloke that would be happy in the knowledge, that people will still be enjoying that tree long after they've forgotten the name Paul Haw.
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one thing that caught my eye in the article......
"trees were ring-barked as part of an early forestry management campaign to promote fresh growth."

I'm confused???????

Do they mean,
Fresh growth in the tree that's been ring barked? or, Fresh growth of new trees when the ringbarked ones die?


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I have to confess to not knowing for sure...when I first read that I had assumed the new growth would come from the basal shoots below the ringbarking, but this would not always be the case some Eucs would die with very little attempt at regrowth, some, those with identifiable lignotubers would alsput on an amzing amount of growth in response to such damage.

I'm guesing the answer then is a bit of both, however the use of the technique was driven in many cases more by a lack of tools and skills to harvest the very largest trees, than any preconcieved management plan. Ring barking such trees (and we're talking about cutting really deep into the trunk!) was a very common method (albeit slow) to reove very dominant individual trees.

It is a great story about how a small group of motivated people can make things happen....for me more about raising the awareness of the forest and the treasures in there than perhaps the long term outcomes....I was so impressed I wrote them an congratulatory email.....(I do think the 1000yr estimate might be a journo padding things though)
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12 of the most magnificent trees in the world.

I'd hate to have to try taking down one of those baobab trees.

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How fantastic ! I only wish there were more of the oldies
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Just a quick post (very tired) tree longevity never ceases to astound me, even if the clonal nature of the new stems take some thinking to get your head around...a 9000yrs old root stock!

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That was a good read, the darn thing dies but shoots another off roots, they dated the root stock.

Argument is that the tree itself isn't that old, especially if counting rings.

Did you read this? Australia could have the oldest, we had the tallest once too but you know, the Tasmanians cut it down, then recently they burned another large one ... dont let them know about this one then.

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Interesting find Sean
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If we include clonal trees than the christmas tree isn't even close to Pando in age, size and weight, unless you don't count organisms with multiple stems as a tree, which by the looks of things would exclude the swedish tree.
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Well, I'd like to add a significant tree story pertaining to Australian politics.



Back in 1890 era it's alleged but not proven that the Australian Labor Party was born after a shearers strike under the shade of a ghost gum in Barcaldine, now historically known as The Tree of Knowledge.



However around May 2006 the tree had a large amount of weed killer poured onto it's roots (30 litres) and had a long struggle as people tried to save it.

However on 3 October 2006 the tree was officially pronounced dead.

In an effort to preserve the tree, it was uprooted and transported to Brisbane 29 July 2007

Tree of Knowledge poisoned : ABC Western Queensland
'Tree of Knowledge' cuttings sales unlikely. 04/10/2006. ABC News Online
Tree of Knowledge uprooted | The Courier-Mail

The irony is the current Labor premier for Queensland went to Barcaldine to hold a farewell service and donate $1.4million for a memorial centre, he was greeted by 500 angry protesters who threw water filled projectiles at him in the middle of a drought. They were protesting about the recent council amalgamations in Queensland.

Premier Beattie said, "Isn't it great to see (that spirit) is not dead," he said amidst the shouts.
Tree of Knowledge has babies | The Australian

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THE historic Tree of Knowledge will be returned to the central-west Queensland town of Barcaldine on the Labour Day public holiday, in the form of 35 clones and cuttings.
The 160-year-old ghost gum, regarded as the birthplace of the Australian Labor Party, was mysteriously poisoned in 2006, prompting a rescue operation to preserve it.

Since last year, Department of Primary Industries' scientists have been preserving the original tree and generating clones and cuttings.

The smaller versions of the tree, produced from a young shoot of the original taken in 1991, will be presented to Barcaldine Regional Council at Monday's Labour Day march.

Primary Industries Minister Tim Mulherin said he was pleased the tree could live on through scientific know-how.

Treatment of the original tree would continue for several more months, before it was returned to a "resting place" in Barcaldine.

"The seven-metre-high trunk and branches are being chemically treated to protect against insect attack in a process that is hailed as the first of its type in Australia, and possibly the world," Mr Mulherin said.

In Brisbane, the Labour Day march will begin at 10am in Wharf and Turbot streets, and end at the RNA showgrounds with a family barbecue.

This year's theme is "Your rights at work, worth joining for".
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For more information about the Tree of Knowledge at Barcaldine visit this thread.
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Could we keep this thread focussed on significant trees...at least tangentally?
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Does anyone know the projected final cost of the cage around the Anne Frank tree?
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