Seeing this really pissed me off

Therrin · 6th October 2009, 02:52 AM

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Tree Care, wanted motivated sales person! (Santa Barbara)

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Date: 2009-09-28, 11:32AM PDT
Reply to: nick@steeltreeservice.com

Wanted, motivated sales person! To go, door to door and sale tree work. Starting pay will be $10 an hour or a 10% commission of all sales. Car will not be provided, you must have your own, and you should have basic knowledge about trees and pruning them. You could easily be earring $800 a week without over working yourself. You should be available Mon-Fri, 8am-4pm, with 1 hour lunch.
Bilingual preferred.
Thank you,
Please email Nick Gosnell for more info,

What a way to push your business....

Bruce Hopf · 6th October 2009, 04:01 AM

I don't know what to tell you. I know how you feel. If you can't find work, how do they expect to. To supply your own car, is worth more than $10.00. Still 10% for sales, and if you get 0 sales, for the week, well 10% of 0% = $0.00, and you have worked for nothing, at your expence. Lot of nerve, they have. Bruce.

Therrin · 6th October 2009, 05:15 AM

I was going more from the stance that this guy is trying to hire someone, to go door to door and "sale" (sell) his services.

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"you should have a basic knowlege of trees and pruning them"

What is "basic" exactly? Why would you want someone as your frontrunner (besides the shoddy business perpetration) who only has a "basic" knowledge? Wouldnt they be the one making the quotes? Or just the middleman to get you in there to do the quote?

"Gee ma'am, that tree looks like it needs some work, wouldnt you like our guy to come give you a quote?" Most people would prolly say yes to as little as that, which is sad.

Found this ad on craigslist.

Eric Frei · 6th October 2009, 07:18 AM

So, I wonder if the commission is before or after the 20% give-away?

Tree Care in Santa Barbara - Montecito - Santa Ynez Valley - Steel Tree Service

Therrin · 6th October 2009, 07:26 AM

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With an ISA Certified Arborist on staff to direct our crew, we cut down on unnecessary maintenance and ensure that every tree is properly pruned. We will never try to sell you on overpruning your trees - this can in fact stress your trees and cause more harm than good.

well it sure isnt a certified arborist who's going around ginning up the work for them!

Nicholas Gosnell (WE-8017A) is their ISA cert'd guy, the same one who posted the Craigslist ad looking for a door-to-door salesman for them. Though he's registered as being with "Gosnell Tree Service", which ALSO has a website here:
http://gosnelltree.com/index.html

Therrin · 6th October 2009, 07:30 AM

No helmet, no high-vis... and you can see he's only using a single TIP, which is a steel-core lanyard. (you can also see that it's been 'spiffed by the chainsaw, and is still in use)

And lets all hope that's a total dismantle he's workin on.

Also, no hearing protection on any of their workers in the photos. Apparently they aren't concerned with their worker's health and saftey.

Therrin · 6th October 2009, 08:06 AM

Ahh, and Gosnell Tree Service has some great pictures!

Eric Frei · 6th October 2009, 04:34 PM

Door to door sales person.

What a wanker!

Tree whore!!

TrevMcRev · 6th October 2009, 09:43 PM

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I hope this is their method of Tree & Stump Removal.

Unless it's some freak of a species, i don't think it'll be a successful transplant.

askmeall · 8th October 2009, 12:33 PM

Paul Nosak has been using that tecnique here

Therrin · 8th October 2009, 04:33 PM

The guy was emailed and invited to come to the forum but he never showed up

6th October 2009, 04:01 AM	#2
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,167	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off I don't know what to tell you. I know how you feel. If you can't find work, how do they expect to. To supply your own car, is worth more than $10.00. Still 10% for sales, and if you get 0 sales, for the week, well 10% of 0% = $0.00, and you have worked for nothing, at your expence. Lot of nerve, they have. Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

6th October 2009, 07:18 AM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,995	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off So, I wonder if the commission is before or after the 20% give-away? Tree Care in Santa Barbara - Montecito - Santa Ynez Valley - Steel Tree Service __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th October 2009, 07:30 AM	#6
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off No helmet, no high-vis... and you can see he's only using a single TIP, which is a steel-core lanyard. (you can also see that it's been 'spiffed by the chainsaw, and is still in use) And lets all hope that's a total dismantle he's workin on. Also, no hearing protection on any of their workers in the photos. Apparently they aren't concerned with their worker's health and saftey. Attached Thumbnails

6th October 2009, 08:06 AM	#7
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off Ahh, and Gosnell Tree Service has some great pictures! Attached Thumbnails

6th October 2009, 04:34 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,995	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off Door to door sales person. What a wanker! Tree whore!! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th October 2009, 12:33 PM	#10
askmeall Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: mid-america Posts: 60	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off Paul Nosak has been using that tecnique here

8th October 2009, 04:33 PM	#11
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Seeing this really pissed me off The guy was emailed and invited to come to the forum but he never showed up

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