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Old 26th October 2007, 09:20 AM   #1
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The original ?and brillant- idea belongs from Alex Tew, age 21, english student, and came out to generate himself economic resources for his university studies. The objective was to sell advertising spaces of 10 x 10 pixels (minimum visible space) which cost one dollar each, on an extension of one million pixels. All the pixels were sold, and Alex has already his million dollar. The million site is becoming an icon for internet.

Many people had follow his steps, with different purposes.

Macarena Rosales, a peruvian eco-tourism lover, has a dream. The idea came out during a trip to the Peruvian Amazonia. She went to Codo del Pozuzo (Hu?nuco Region), and was delighted with its people and customs, as as with the beauty of the Forest, and specially for a principal characteristic: Codo del Pozuzo is almost a virgin town in the sense that, although it is a town, Pozuzo is not contaminated by other Peruvian cities? damaging activities, such as nonregulated trade, delinquency, informalism and other economic growth impediments. The whole region is untouched for the abovementioned situations because of perhaps its difficult access and maybe for being a colony directly coming from German descendants who reached this place fascinated with the green tropical rainforest of the Amazonia of Hu?nuco and settled there many years until present.

She was talking to the villagers and making a kind of vivential tourism when she was informed about the sale of a piece of land which was deforestated for shepherding. Returning to Lima, after thinking a lot and having many talks about it, the idea of the project was conceived. Macarena was full motivated and she intended not only to exploit and transform again that land into a small piece of lung of the Amazonia, but to give the surrounding communities the opportunity to economically take advantage of it in a conscious and ecological way. She wanted to promote reforestation and benefit both the environment as well as the ecosystem. And this is not definitely a cheap project.

She was looking for a way to finance her dream effectively and creatively. A system generating the necessary funds to the project development without asking for donations. Then she happened to read about Alex?s project, and decided to create www.themilliontreeshomepage.com. A pixel-selling site, but with a very important purpose: she is going to plant one tree for pixel. If all the pixels are sold, there will be one million trees!

The found enclave for the project is a large piece of land of private property of 285 entitled Has., from which 80 Has. is a protected area (reserved) and the rest was used for shepherding.

Macarena talked to the local authorities to have the possibility to extend this type of project to the local communities, promoting responsible reforestation and exploitation of cattle and forest resources without damaging the ecosystem, just benefiting it.

Macarena Rosales has a dream, and wants her million? One million trees.



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Old 26th October 2007, 09:23 AM   #2
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My name is Macarena Rosales, and I live in Per?. I love eco-tourism. During a trip to the Peruvian Amazonia, I went to Codo del Pozuzo (Hu?nuco Region), and was delighted with its people and customs, and with the beauty of the Forest.

I was talking to the villagers and making a kind of vivential tourism when I was informed about the sale of a piece of land which was deforestated for shepherding.

I was full motivated and I intended not only to exploit and transform again that land into a small piece of lung of the Amazonia, but to give the surrounding communities the opportunity to economically take advantage of it in a conscious and ecological way. Then there will be planted trees, fruits and wood of which could immediately benefit both the environment as well as the ecosystem.

This is not definitely a cheap project. I had to find out how to finance it effectively and creatively. A system generating the necessary funds to the project development without asking for donations...
And I found the way
http://www.themilliontreeshomepage.com/
I would like you to join us. See you there!

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Old 26th October 2007, 11:33 PM   #3
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So exactly what are you trying to reforest, 205 hectares?

The current rate of removal is like 13,100 km2 a year.

Amazon Rainforest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seems to me the way to win this fight is to stop the logging first. Also aren't they employing better logging practices like fishbone/herring pattern logging where strips of forest are left and it's found to actually increase rain?
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Old 27th October 2007, 04:21 PM   #4
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You know, I was thinking most of the day today that this whole thing could be a scam, just like the Nigerian Money crap we all get emailed.

I'll be deleting this thread and banning you as a member if you fail to provide legitimacy of your operation including registered details such as company names, banks, official paperwork etc.

You see, it's easy to shoot some video/pics and make claims, easy to get a website and make more claims. But for all we know you could be full of BS sitting in the pub having a great laugh sucking money from people for your own personal gain.

Yes, tough aint I. But I like facts not emotions. Yes you have a few documents so what, not in english, and doesn't mean much. How about a bank balance sheet? Is this a private venture or corporation? Do you have any tax returns? Do you have a Lawyer and Accountant?

This rainforest/tree thing could be the next cash cow for shonksters, heck, how would we even know the legitimacy of current supporters? They could even be in on it?

Sorry, this is a world class site and I'm tough coz I dont want any part of any BS potential fraud case.

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Also, your post is a copy/paste, your interaction on other forums is low to non existant, and this is advertising SPAM without following correct protocol.

Yes, step up to the plate, I'M CALLING YOU OUT AND A FRAUD.
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Old 28th October 2007, 03:41 AM   #5
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Looks very likely to be a scam!
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Old 28th October 2007, 03:50 AM   #6
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I believe it is a scam.
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I've also contacted them at YouTube, see if they respond.
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Old 28th October 2007, 09:48 AM   #8
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Hey Milliontreesdude,
This is easy to stop right here and now,Please valadate your claims
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Did you all know over 80% of the AMAZON rainforest is still there!

This is a cash cow for greenies and scammers.

Also this plot they are reforesting doesn't even represent a drop in the ocean compared to the scale of clearing.

Also the plot is private which means you are funding a private enterprise, yes a business or simply their place!

If we were to look at deforestation in Australia we have taken HALF OF THE VEGETATION but lets globally jump on the Amazon and deny them the same economic opportunities pertaining to industrialization and farming.

If the rest of the world thinks the Amazon should stay in tact for their benefit then they should be paying the govt over there a lot of money to not clear and the people can have money for doing nothing. There is a lot more going on here than meets a few "greenie" eyes.

Have an open mind and ask questions.

So for example America makes 25% of the world's CO2 why dont they then pay for retention of the Amazon etc ... they (Amazonians) like every other country have a resource and the right to sustain themselves economically. The argument, just like with African game etc is to what degree and how it should be managed ... all we hearis one side of the story not the other.

Dont forget Gunn's logging in Tasmania is building a $1.7billion plant for timber processing.

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But the state timber agency also disclosed that up to 500,000 tonnes of public old-growth forests would still be exported from the state each year as woodchips, despite construction of the mill. Forestry Tasmania's chief executive, Bob Gordon, said yesterday that Gunns would begin by paying $13.75 a tonne from January 1 2008 for the wood.
Gunns and Forestry Tasmania agree on logging - National - theage.com.au

And the good old Google map The Wilderness Society - Tasmania's devastating logging practices exposed

So, this is utter BS in the grand scheme of things, A SCAM!
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Received an email. I do not like to publish emails and PM's etc however in this instance I believe it is necessary.

Check this out.

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From: Macarena Rosales Llaury
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Subject: Re: Welcome to Tree World | Tree Information Forum | International Arborist Forum!


Hello
please remove mi name and Registration forum

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contrase?a: beckie
So, didn't try to defend self, and no explanation.

Here's the tough part, do we wipe it or expose it to warn others?
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A scam is a scam, Once exposed there's no turning back! IMO !!

Since it involves trees it is our buisiness,I would say it would be better to come forward to explain your actions.Failing this,pass it on to the Authorities.

I think it would be better to leave this post up as a warning to others,What are the other members thoughts??
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Sounds like they are CON ARTISTS and THEIVES.

Nothing gives me the SHITS more than these type of people
(please excuse bad language)

We all know that there is a certain percentage of the population who will always fall for a con-job.
Usually out of fear,greed or other emotional reasons.

I believe it is our duty as decent folk to help protect these people.
Not to see them as "suckers" who we can milk dry.

Well done TREEWORLD for exposing this con-job.

The sad part is some people will still fall for it, you only have to look at the number of people still being "ripped off" by Nigerian scams, even though it has been all over the news!

On the other hand,

Hey MillionTreeLady,

I would be happy to help out
just send me all your bank account details
including credit card details and expiry dates
and a $10,000 refundable security deposit.
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LOL

BUSTED!
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whatn a scam!!!i'm glad i ignored thier emails as well as the save the redwoods foundation.A big thank you to Ekka for exposing them for who they really are,con artisits.this should serve as a reminder to everyone who sees this that before donating make sure that it is a legite company.
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The greenies are the ones pressing that the destruction of the Amazon is bad, unsustainable etc, but as I pointed out 80% is still there, and there's not a whole lot of rational argument including compensating a country for remaining undeveloped.


Maybe if your country (Australia, USA, England etc) did wipe it's flora for farms you should embark upon reestablishment there of such not inhibit another country from doing what they do? Or is it on some-ones agenda to invade Peru to liberate the forest?

It is very easy for a bunch of people to stand around saying save the Amazon ... however they're not exactly full of funding to offer options/alternatives.

When a scam such as the above enters the arena for support I see it as necessary to present the complete debate about it's authenticity. It is easy to sucker fools on the internet, have them throw money at things they have no idea about. Like a salesman selling snake oil the website owner collects and fails to deliver.

Pay close attention to the goal written.

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to give the surrounding communities the opportunity to economically take advantage of it in a conscious and ecological way. Then there will be planted trees, fruits and wood of which could immediately benefit both the environment as well as the ecosystem.
Hello, they're building a business, a farm, an orchard, and a log-able forest. They're not to different from other developments.

The recent discovery of herring bone clearing increases precipitation, they are trying to balance the scene I'm sure, they wouldn't want a barren wasteland either.

Again observe the quote:-

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to give the surrounding communities the opportunity to economically take advantage of it in a conscious and ecological way.
Does this insinuate that other developments do not try to do the same? But it does say that development will continue, economically fuelled.

Now some math, 1 million trees divided by 205 hectares equals 4878 trees per hectare.

10,000m2 in a hectare and that then means 1 tree per 2m2 ... I wonder what the tree density is in the rain forest, I doubt that high and I doubt that sort of over planting is rational or sustainable and it leaves no room for "crops" unless of course the trees are the crops.

So, this is how I think when analysing scams.
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