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Old 6th November 2011, 03:39 PM   #1
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i have been using my new lonewolf climbing platform and boy is it faster and safer then spikes! you palm guys realy need to get one of these. i swear it will open your eyes to a new approach to pruning palms spikless. i can get up faster then spiking and best part is, you can work leaning palms from all angles around the palms crown. best $500 investment i have ever made! i can now even prune palms that spiking would wound badly like cocos plumosa, palmeto palms, spindle and much more. im making a video showing off its versatility tomorrow.
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You'll have to get video up.
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Old 6th November 2011, 10:29 PM   #3
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I wait for the video!
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Old 7th November 2011, 05:23 AM   #4
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I'm interested in this, so I'll keep checking back for the video.
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Old 7th November 2011, 11:30 AM   #5
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gonna have to give me a couple of days. sorry, i got the flu and have been taking time off until im well enough to climb. video will be up this week.
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really looking forward to this one
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Old 7th November 2011, 08:36 PM   #7
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Cold or flu...no excuss! Get out there and give us that demonstration!

Take care of yourself. It's always better to take a few days off and rest, than it is to overwork the body and have it shut down for a week or more.
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Old 8th November 2011, 03:08 PM   #8
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at last the long awaited demo video.
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Old 8th November 2011, 07:32 PM   #9
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looks like a neat piece of kit. im assuming that you can go a lot faster than the video?
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ok interesting definitely an option not sure how they would cope on 1.2 meter wide cubans, is the rubber part reinforced with steel i.e. like a car tyre?
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Old 8th November 2011, 10:04 PM   #11
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Impressive sell and good video to explain it all. (Had to wonder what the camera operator was on for a bit).

I had a concern with your lanyard not being double wrapped as a safety backup. I realise this would slow you down but I don't see how do you achieve a secure back up tie in point the way you did it.

350 lbs on that rubber strap. A bit of leverage if you stand on the back of the platform. My climbing weight is 225lbs with a Stihl 200t. I'd like a good look at the specs of the rubber strap to put my mind at ease.

Congrats on a good product demo all the same.
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Old 9th November 2011, 02:38 AM   #12
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ok interesting definitely an option not sure how they would cope on 1.2 meter wide cubans, is the rubber part reinforced with steel i.e. like a car tyre?
yes its thick hard rubber. Lone Wolf Alpha Hand Climber Combo II | Climbing Treestand - Lone Wolf Stands
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The steel jaw could be rubber coated.
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Old 10th November 2011, 04:13 AM   #14
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eric have heard of guys putting foam tubes over teeth and using wire ties to secure the foam in place.
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Old 11th November 2011, 03:33 PM   #15
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Looks interesting. Commercial says can use on trees up to 19" diameter (larger tracks are available). But I weigh 280 plus saw and equipment; I would really like the strap to be reinforced with steel, as Garry suggested, Ad doesn't seem to give any options like that. But worth looking into.
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Old 11th November 2011, 07:07 PM   #16
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Just had a look at the Lone Wolf site. They say

"The exclusive Cam-Action Fastening System features a locking tooth design and finger tether for effortless opening. Includes high-strength Wolf Paw traction belt with steel cable reinforcement."

Looks pretty good.
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Old 12th November 2011, 06:20 PM   #17
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It is better for the palm, but let's be honest here. It is not faster than spikes. I would be at the top of a 20 ft. palm before you even got the bottom platform mounted.

I have 2 platforms and a variety of strap on ladders and tree steps. Platforms don't work very well when the palm is growing through canopy trees or the palms have lights or cables attached to the trunk. Some of the palms I work on have speakers and lights covering 2-3 ft. of the trunk and four have lights and other objects attached to the trunk for 6 ft. I climb all those spikeless, but not with a platform or those overpriced rings.

I also spike old coconut palms that have been spiked hundreds of times over the past 30 or 40 years. The trunks get hardened by all the bark being taken off that a sharp spike will only go in 1/4 inch.

Conservatively, I estimate that I have trimmed coconut palms (many of the same ones over and over) at least 30,000 times in my career. I am currently trimming a little over 2300 a year.
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So working 6 days per week, you average 7-8 trees per day. You ought to slow down, you're going to wear yourself out, before you have a chance to retire.
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Old 13th November 2011, 04:54 AM   #19
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Default Re: say goodbye to spiking palms.

lets not turn this into a pissing contest. anyways. what other spikeless methods have you all tried or done thats productive and not slow?
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So working 6 days per week, you average 7-8 trees per day. You ought to slow down, you're going to wear yourself out, before you have a chance to retire.
If you are referring to me, I normally work five days a week and cocos are about 40% of the work I do.

The most effective means I use to trim palms without spikes is an aerial lift. On a lot of my jobs, I can trim at least 4 to as many as 7 from one location.
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we are gonna buy a spider lift next year. we just bought a bandit 250XP to go with our chip truck and now were lookin at a spider lift and a grapple attachment for our bobcat.
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Interesting something to think about on those jobs that don't come up everyday but need a new way of doing things
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the nice thing about the platform is you can go anywhere with it into any back yard and into any narrow place where an aerial lift will not fit.
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the nice thing about the platform is you can go anywhere with it into any back yard and into any narrow place where an aerial lift will not fit.
You must have significantly better access to backyards than I do. Most of my jobs have a gate no wider than 30 inches, and often the access to the back is less than 3 feet, sometimes barely 2 ft. I never thought of using an aerial lift, can't get it in. But it would certainly speed up work.
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well for palm work you can drag palms and its debris through a 3 foot wide area. thats the beauty of the platform, having the ability to go into tight areas where aerial lifts cant go. when i do climbing work for a company here called Trees of Hawaii we do quite a few properties with tight areas and there is no way in hell we can get the bucket truck in.

btw the only palms i still have to spike still are washingtonia robusta's because the platforms will not work on trees larger then 20" and washies have a bark layer about 2 inches thick so the risk of infection is low but, i still disinfect my spikes and handsaws. btw use handsaws on palms guys, machete's leave the petioles on coconuts all shredded up and rough looking.
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