Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council

Ekka · 10th September 2007, 02:26 AM

TAXPAYERS have been lumbered with a $260,000 bill for moving a common fig tree several hundred metres.

Save the tree cost $260,000 | The Courier-Mail

The tree is on a Private Golf course where it costs $120 a round!

Quintrex · 10th September 2007, 03:15 AM

Yet they don't seem to care about all the trees that are destroyed by the hackers??????
I wouldn't mind the job though!

TrevMcRev · 10th September 2007, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Quintrex

Yet they don't seem to care about all the trees that are destroyed by the hackers??????
I wouldn't mind the job though!

Yeah, and i reckon i couldve done it for them for $250,000

Quintrex · 10th September 2007, 03:28 AM

You're all heart!

Sean Freeman · 10th September 2007, 03:58 AM

I don't think the price quoted in the paper is correct, but it would have been over $120,000.00, I really hope enough thought and investment has been put into the after care, because from my understanding very little went into the pre transplant work.

treeseer · 13th September 2007, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

I don't think the price quoted in the paper is correct, but it would have been over $120,000.00, I really hope enough thought and investment has been put into the after care, because from my understanding very little went into the pre transplant work.

They needed a zealot with a videocam to document the poor prep, which will lead the the demise and the waste.

Just think what that money could do in preservation work around other projects.

O and why did the hole configuration have to be changed, again???

Sean Freeman · 13th September 2007, 04:38 AM

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They needed a zealot with a videocam to document the poor prep, which will lead the the demise and the waste

Ha, ha you're right Guy

Its not entirely a one way street re prep work...someone has to pay for it and often the prinicpal contractor...the developer (of some hue) won't commit to any payments until the DA is approved, consequently by the time they are ready to commit the window for prep work is well and truely passed.

Imaginative tree companies can factor this into the fee structure but they still have to be large enough to carry the cost till payments start coming in...no excuse I feel in this case since the client is prepared to chuck at least $120,000 at what is not best practice (again based soley on what I have been told) there obviously was and prob still is a significant group/committee driven to retain the trees and good on them, hope its for the right reasons, but they needed some better advice as always we miss out at the concept stage and come a poor second best after everyone else has fixed the physical parameters....yeah well the trees can fit around that right?

treeseer · 13th September 2007, 05:08 AM

Speaking about high-priced tree preservation, here's a report I just finished.

Building in a ravine and saving trees can be costly.

Ekka · 13th September 2007, 01:50 PM

LOL

From the blog comments on that article.

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The St Lucia Golf Links - owned and operated by the BCC - is currently: * trashing the remaining Sandy Creek frog habitats and reed beds in oder to help hackers stop losing their balls; * building a 1.5m dollar 800m, unconnected, unnecessary, inappropriate "shared path' for cyclists and "walkers" through BCC Heritage-cited trescape. To do that Council has GIVEN ITSELF permission to cut down 39 mature and native trees and threaten 100 more with root damage; * Then, to "protect" only the notional users of the dead-end new path, Council is going to erect a 3.2m high, canted top, dense black mesh fence to line the whole of the new path section, thus barricading the listed views and public open space away from the public and the hundreds of people who drive and cycle on Hillside Terrace every day because it is beautiful.

One rule for Council, and one for the rest of us . . .

Posted by: ian of st lucia of brisbane 11:32am September 13, 2007
Comment 61 of 61

I read somewhere the tree was 25m high and 30m wide. I'd estimate the tree to be 25 tonnes and soil lift around 110 tonnes.

I'd say the costing was about right for a tree that large, they would have used a low loader not cranes and perhaps two or three large trucks to shunt it across.

treestyle · 16th September 2007, 03:12 AM

I think it's a good thing that the tree was saved. Seems like a lot of money. HOWEVER i think it's justifiable. presuming the tree has a minimum of 100 more years life. I don't know what the figures are but i'm sure that if you were to purchase the oxygen that it will make in that time, it would cost you more then 260k. not to mention the habitat, i remmeber reading a study that was done on the sunshine coast somewhere. was a large Gum approx 300 yr old tree with 22 hollows, it was calculated that for man to make, install and maintain the same amount of nest boxes over 100 years would cost something like $200 - 400k.

Perhaps the money used to move the tree could have spent elsewhere on numerous projects. But honestly i think they did the right thing.

rangitata · 4th December 2007, 09:42 PM

Drove past today and noticed that this tree is looking very.......

It is totally defoliated and looking sad.

Money well spent!!!

Sean Freeman · 4th December 2007, 11:24 PM

That is not good news, it is hard enough to persuade developers and councils to save existing veg as it is, but examples of this kind of shoddy practice...insufficient prep, lack of skills, insufficient post transplant care...all just serve to convince others that transplants cannot work...when the opposite is true.

Given enough time, resources and Arboricultural skill and experience...any tree, no matter what species, size or location can be successfully transplanted.

This tree was worth the money spent...it just should have been spent on a company that could do the job following best practices. They do exist!!!!!

newguy18 · 5th December 2007, 07:57 PM

i haven't done any transplants except from pots to ground and those were all sucessful but from the sounds of things they should have either hired an arborist[a good one] or removed the tree.

10th September 2007, 03:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 464	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council Yet they don't seem to care about all the trees that are destroyed by the hackers?????? I wouldn't mind the job though!

10th September 2007, 03:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 464	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council You're all heart!

10th September 2007, 03:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council I don't think the price quoted in the paper is correct, but it would have been over $120,000.00, I really hope enough thought and investment has been put into the after care, because from my understanding very little went into the pre transplant work. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

16th September 2007, 03:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 128	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council I think it's a good thing that the tree was saved. Seems like a lot of money. HOWEVER i think it's justifiable. presuming the tree has a minimum of 100 more years life. I don't know what the figures are but i'm sure that if you were to purchase the oxygen that it will make in that time, it would cost you more then 260k. not to mention the habitat, i remmeber reading a study that was done on the sunshine coast somewhere. was a large Gum approx 300 yr old tree with 22 hollows, it was calculated that for man to make, install and maintain the same amount of nest boxes over 100 years would cost something like $200 - 400k. Perhaps the money used to move the tree could have spent elsewhere on numerous projects. But honestly i think they did the right thing.

4th December 2007, 09:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
rangitata Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 65	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council Drove past today and noticed that this tree is looking very....... It is totally defoliated and looking sad. Money well spent!!!

4th December 2007, 11:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council That is not good news, it is hard enough to persuade developers and councils to save existing veg as it is, but examples of this kind of shoddy practice...insufficient prep, lack of skills, insufficient post transplant care...all just serve to convince others that transplants cannot work...when the opposite is true. Given enough time, resources and Arboricultural skill and experience...any tree, no matter what species, size or location can be successfully transplanted. This tree was worth the money spent...it just should have been spent on a company that could do the job following best practices. They do exist!!!!! __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

5th December 2007, 07:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,682	Re: Save the private tree cost $260,000 paid by Brisbane City Council i haven't done any transplants except from pots to ground and those were all sucessful but from the sounds of things they should have either hired an arborist[a good one] or removed the tree. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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