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Old 16th April 2011, 03:50 PM   #1
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Barking up the rogue tree: council-planted liquidambar wrecks wall and wallet - Council - News - The Manly Daily

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15 Apr 11
AN Elanora Heights couple claim Pittwater Council is threatening to take them to court over damage to their wall caused by a council-planted tree.

Jack and Julie Loane said the roots of a liquidambar tree, planted by Warringah Shire Council before Pittwater Council was formed, cracked and lifted his wall.

Mr Loane has had quotes on the repair work with the total coming in at up to $12,000.

But rather than the council footing the bill, it has issued him with a demand to repair the wall.

“They’ve issued me with an official order and if I don’t comply then they will take me to court, which makes me really angry,” Mr Loane said.

The homeowner said that given the trees were planted by the council’s predecessor, it should help out, not hinder.

“I’m not after money,” he said. “I would just like them to take some responsibility.”

“They planted the wretched things and the trees are not even natives.”

A spokeswoman for the council said a council officer inspected the wall and the offending tree late last year.

“The inspection established that the tree is at sufficient distance from the wall not to affect its stability,” she said.

“The council has ordered the resident to make the wall safe as it poses a risk to the neighbouring property and its owners.”

The spokeswoman said the council could take steps such as root-pruning or removal if it was proven that a council-planted tree was responsible.

Mr Loane is not the first resident to express frustration at local councils refusing to take responsibility for damage sustained from trees they planted.

Earlier this week, Cromer resident Sam Catena said he was up for thousands of dollars worth of repairs to his driveway which had been cracked by a council-planted liquidambar tree.


Julie Loane and the wall that has been damaged by the large liquidambar.
This is the location.


Council accept no responsibility, well to me the tree definitely looks too close for what appears around a 1m DBH Liquid Amber that has an invasive root system. In addition with a road on one side that would make it's root system more likely to travel toward the wall and parallel with the wall and road.

We need to see where exactly the wall was broken. Also to put a spirit level on it to see if it leans and how much using a plumb bob.

Perhaps some careful hand excavation along the wall foundation would expose roots. I wonder if roots go underneath the wall?

Chances are the wall is not built to retaining wall standards rather just decorative wall on a footing. We know tree roots can exert 145psi of pressure and if sufficient area of root is in contact with the wall there may be enough pressure to raise the wall or tilt it, in addition it could also be subsidence especially if on a reactive clay. If soil moisture levels are lower street side of the wall due to the tree then clay on that side would shrink and likely the wall would lean toward the street.

Either way the repair bill is $12,000 and council have the audacity to serve notice on this guy to repair when they are partly if not all to blame I reckon.

I wonder if the wall was there before the tree?

Now council will debate the classification of Liquid Amber tree roots being invasive. I'm sure if I call them invasive some fool will argue they are not, so best to get another reputable source to call their roots invasive.

I found some from their fellow councils but we all know liquidambers usually have aggressive surface roots similar to ficus trees:-

PDF from Toowoomba council page 5 says so (document attached).

PDF attached from Parramatta City Council states:-
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30. The Liquid Amber tree is an exotic species with an invasive damaging root system.
The other issue I believe that is being over looked is repairing the wall and guaranteeing it, with that tree so close by in my experience I doubt any builder would guarantee the wall. In addition it appears the wall is within the tree's SRZ so what happens there for digging etc? In reality there should be a root cut and barrier installed but I think it's all too close to the tree and the tree's stability would be compromised.

So we need some data, hopefully the home-owner will join in and help.
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