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Old 3rd April 2010, 06:39 PM   #1
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Tree man Richard Pennicuik comes down, but council says tree must go | Perth Now
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Old 3rd April 2010, 06:58 PM   #2
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Yeah, I mentioned in this post.

Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors

He'll be fined, rightfully so. He reckons he was hit by lightning in the tree too.

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He said if loppers turn up to cut it down he would not resume his protest.

“Let them make themselves into the biggest idiots in the world,” he said.
What's the logic of this statement from him? That doing a legitimate job makes them the worlds biggest idiots ... sounds a nut job to me.
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the lazy prick ( has been unable to work for 14 or so years , bludged off his missus ) he claims he spent over a 100 days in this tree yet he came down and went for a short jog to see if he could still walk ( I spend 8 hrs aday in a tree working , buggered if I could do a short jog ) this so called disabled twott did not even know the common name of this tree , yet alone the growth habit theres a tree faller in tas who could sort this poor disabled twott
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I love the quote "the worlds biggest idiots". Well really we need to put this into perspective who was the one who spent 100 or so days in a tree and accomplished nothing. I know when I spend my 8 hours a day in the tree there is either no tree or a tree that looks a lot better because I've just spent my time making it look good. Now really who is the idiot certainly not us as arborists.

Lets keep up the good work show this guys and other like him where to go.
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Old 6th April 2010, 10:57 PM   #5
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LOL, 2 more have gone up!

Tree Man Replaced By Two More Protesters

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Two protesters have scaled a giant eucalypt in Hume Road, Thornlie, to replace Richard 'Tree Man' Pennicuik.

Mr Pennicuik said that supporter Cameron Johnson and another man scaled the tree about 2am yesterday. This was confirmed by a second source.

"We sent them up there on purpose," Mr Pennicuik said.

"We heard it on the grapevine (Gosnells City Council officers) were going to come here and cut the tree down."

Mr Pennicuik said he would like to join the men in the bough of the tree, but that since coming down on Friday his doctor has diagnosed "a rattle" in his chest.

The erstwhile 'Tree Man' said a pre-existing high blood pressure condition was also causing him concern.

A frustrated Gosnells city spokesman confirmed "there's a couple of different people back up the tree".

"We will be taking every possible legal action to get them down," the spokesman said.

"We won't rule out any action in our efforts to restore normality to what was once a peaceful suburban street."

The city spokesman said the council would now look at expediting the tree's felling.

However, last week's storm had put a premium on tree loppers, which had delayed the task.
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I dont get it why cant people understand that trees just like every other living thing have a life span. Unfortunately in our urban areas trees cant be left to live their natural life as they would in a forrest due to public safety no doubt im preaching to the choir here but its time people started to realise that we need to efficiently manage our amenity trees so they pose a lower risk to the public.

I bet these people would be the first ones to condemn the professionals and council if the tree were to fail and fall on either their house or worse themselves.
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Old 18th April 2010, 01:06 PM   #7
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Tranquilizer darts should do the trick.
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yep,i like the idea of a guy starting a notch while they're up there.they'll come down really quick.
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yep,i like the idea of a guy starting a notch while they're up there.they'll come down really quick.
I dunnow. These people live in a kind of fantasy world.
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Old 6th May 2010, 05:23 PM   #10
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BEATRICE THOMAS and LOUISE BURKE, The West Australian May 6, 2010, 10:06 am

After a five-month saga, the giant Eucalyptus Melliodora out the front of Richard Pennicuick's Thornlie home is being brought to the ground.

Workers from the City of Gosnells started up chainsaws and began lopping branches off the controversial tree. About a third of the tree has now been chopped off and a makeshift treehouse which was illegally erected in the tree has being removed.

Mr Pennicuick made a brief appearance on the street shortly after 12 noon, walking up to the road block and asking Police for access to his home. He was told his home was a work zone and he could not enter and has departed the scene again.
Mr Pennicuick was accompanied by a male friend who appeared to be video taping proceedings.

City of Gosnells spokesman Bob Figg issued a statement shortly after the incident, claiming Mr Pennicuick was in his home until the tree loppers arrived and appeared to have climbed over his back fence.

"I can confirm that the protestor was in his home when the tree loppers arrived," Mr Figg said. "He climbed onto the caravan outside his property before going back inside."

"He later apparently climbed over the back fence and walked around the block to stage the camera opportunity."

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About a dozen Police officers are manning a road block which has closed off about 100m of road on either side of the tree and three officers are surrounding the tree itself.

Some of Mr Pennicuick's supporters were seen watching on from the edge of the road block, but so far there has been no attempt at further protests.

Supporter Joel Cornwell, also known as "Birdman", said he did not think the council would have the guts to chop the tree down. He said he was disgusted by what he was seeing. Mr Cornwell said he was brought up in the Northern Territory, where "you didn't cut down trees".

"I'm shaking, I'm furious," he said.

Curious neighbours are looking on, one commenting: "It's about time we'll finally have some peace and quiet around here."

A city spokesman said the woodchips would be used for revegetation work around the City of Gosnells.

The council is expected to hold a press conference later today.

Mr Pennicuick, 57, began his campaign to save the Hume Road tree in December, building a tree house and continuously defying council orders to come down.

The 'Tree man' ended his 110-day protest in in March amid a legal challenge by the City of Gosnells.

The 20-metre eucalyptus melliodora was the last of 22 gums which lined the suburban street. The City of Gosnells claimed the trees were dangerous and would be replaced with 35 jacaranda trees.

Mr Pennicuik faces a charge of obstructing the City of Gosnells in its bid to remove a tree from outside his Thornlie home on Hume Road.

He was due to appear in Armadale Magistrate's Court over his actions on Tuesday, but failed to appear.

His supporters provided the court with a medical certificate and the matter has been adjourned the matter to May 25.




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It's a bit of a shame to lose that tree - I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone just how long it took to reach that size, or how long it will be before the replacement Jacaranda's will add any sort of visual amenity to the street.
Some of the "tree mans" support websites state that they had 2 arborist reports prepared that gave the tree the all clear. If this is true, then the Council cutting it down stinks of them trying to save face.

Does anyone know anything about these arborist reports?
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Tree man is ?fit for trial? - Local news - inMyCommunity - Perth, Western Australia

Funny how all these medical problems did not prevent him from obstructing a work place. It would be good to see all reports.

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MAGISTRATE Liz Langdon deemed Thornlie tree man Richard Pennicuik (57) fit for trial, setting a date of October 27 after he pleaded not guilty on Tuesday to a charge of obstruction brought by the City of Gosnells.

He faces a fine of $5000, and $500 for every day beyond a three-month moratorium, for allegedly obstructing the City from removing the gum tree outside his home.

But his supporters have vowed to appeal Ms Langdon’s decision to refuse several applications made in court last Tuesday.

Mark Simonsen sought to represent Mr Pennicuik, referring to his disability as outlined in a doctor’s letter. But Ms Langdon said the letter was insufficient, and further evidence would be needed.

She said Mr Pennicuik was not so disabled that he could not talk to the court and he could seek help through the Mental Health Legal Unit or other services.

She also did not accept Mr Simonsen’s application to represent Mr Pennicuik as a “McKenzie Friend” because he did not have any legal training. A McKenzie Friend can assist a person in court but can not act as a legal representative.

Applications for mediation, for the case to be struck off and for an application against the tree’s removal were also rejected, with the prosecution pointing out the tree had already been removed.

An application by Mr Pennicuik to have the case moved to the Perth Magistrates Court was also rejected and a trail date set for the Armadale Magistrates Court.

During the hearing, Mr Pennicuik asked the magistrate if she believed in Jesus Christ, a question which she initially said was irrelevant, then asked Mr Pennicuik to explain the relevance of his question.

“All laws are based on the Protestant faith and people are innocent until proven guilty,” he said and the magistrate agreed before ignoring further questions from Mr Simonsen.

After the hearing, James Dean, who also attempted to represent Mr Pennicuik last month and was rejected, accused the court of being biased against Mr Pennicuik.

Mr Simonsen showed the media a copy of the handwritten letter given to the magistrate in which a doctor said his patient had severe insomnia, paranoia, anxiety and a degree of bipolar disorder, which Mr Simonsen said Mr Pennicuik had suffered on and off for the past 10 years.

Other supporters of Mr Pennicuik’s 110-day treetop vigil remained outside the courthouse until his case was heard, bringing several misspelt placards calling the City “oxygen thieves” and “environmental vandals”.

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Convicted of obstruction total $5500.

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THORNLIE tree man Richard Pennicuik was convicted of obstruction when he appeared in Armadale Magistrates Court today.

Mr Pennicuik was fined $500 and ordered to pay $5000 in costs to the City of Gosnells.

But the long-running dispute may not yet be over.

Outside court, key supporter James Dean said Mr Pennicuik would appeal the decision.

Mr Pennicuik was charged with obstruction after he failed to come down from a tree on the verge outside his home that was earmarked for lopping by City of Gosnells contractors.

He gained world-wide attention when his protest lasted more than 100 days.
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Im really surprised with your guys negative outlook on tree preservation. Picking holes in what this guy says, what should he say?...No worries cut it down, it drops leaves in the gutter and like all big trees, they are dangerous... May be they can replant with a nice rose bush

How about some professional support, sharing some knowledge? What could they do to preserve the tree and keep everyone happy and safe at the same time? Some reduction and or bracing no doubt its possible.

If these guys are keen enough to tree sit for weeks on end then there must be some value in the old tree. He and the other two could be nut jobs but NO one sits in a tree day and night for the hell of it, they dont.
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It's a bit of a shame to lose that tree - I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone just how long it took to reach that size, or how long it will be before the replacement Jacaranda's will add any sort of visual amenity to the street.
Some of the "tree mans" support websites state that they had 2 arborist reports prepared that gave the tree the all clear. If this is true, then the Council cutting it down stinks of them trying to save face.

Does anyone know anything about these arborist reports?
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Not many viable options a council will take to avoid a lawsuit. If reduction is possible then it might be worth a shot. Root barriers would have to be installed to prevent further damage (Council's like saving money and claiming they have none). Bracing won't ever happen on a street tree.
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Here the council are reasonably thorough when they decide to remove a tree. Even in New Farm park they hesitated too long and spent a fortune on diagnostics.

I'm unaware if the tree savers got their own arborist report or read the council's arborists report etc, but to fight for retention you need facts and I do not live in Perth to help, I do more than my share to help in my own parts. I see that they claim they got their own reports but I have not read any, did they publish it?

I also respect private people's rights to do as they chose with their own unprotected vegetation (providing pruning is in accordance with standards if they prune). This tree was council owned so I personally see it a little different to private owned as the council's assets are the people's assets and sort of paid for by the public purse.

The fight being put up in Newcastle for the Laman street figs is totally different, and more effective.

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The council could only act on the information it has,If a large limb had failed during winds while he was up the tree and took him/or a member of public out i wonder what the outcome would be?

I wonder what replacement was planted also.
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"If in doubt, cut it out".
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If have report saying remove and another report to keep? tree fails who gets sued???

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Bracing won't ever happen on a street tree.
I dont know if i would take that bet. Happens over most of the rest of the world. It may take time but ill will get there eventually. Why wouldnt it happen? I hear a fair fre people saying if the tree requires bracing then obviously there is a defect and it has to go... Whats the problem then if the brace does its job?

Yea Eric you couldnt ask for much more than that ill agree, if the council are reasonably thorough with assessments and recommendation options then great.

Ha yea good questions Lopa, it is tough to find a perfect outcome.

I dont know much about the situation so im not going to say much but l respect the fact the bloke is trying to save a tree for a change. Is he not the one with the tree on his property or was it on his neighbors as well?
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I know quite a few street trees with bolting/bracing,Not Eucys thou.
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Well, lets see some pics of Vic govt trees bolted and braced. I'd like that.

Up here, rare. Lightning protection ..... even more rare, like I have never seen one.
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I know quite a few street trees with bolting/bracing,Not Eucys thou.
Really?! Must be a southern Vic thing. Never seen it up this way and the theory goes 'if in doubt cut it out', which in most cases is the best thing as the tree should never have been planted there in the first place.
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I have seen bracing on some Eucs in Ferny Hills, Brisbane, on the edge of a park, hanging over a street. Qualify on all counts?

Whether or not it made it through the Gap Storm, I've never bothered to find out.
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Get some pics, Google map it so we can go see.
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In The Gap storm nothing survived a direct hit! buildings were literally crushed by the wind. I removed 800mm diameter trunks 6 meters high that were snapped off like match sticks no signs of rot or weakness.
cabling and bracing helps in normal winds and can be the difference between a house getting hit by a big limb and the limb staying in the tree.
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Apparently, not confirmed, it's still up there.

Pretty sure, this is the tree, if not, to the right of it. Reasonably high too.

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ferny+hills&sll=-27.254275,152.963776&sspn=0.009881,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Ferny+Hills+Queensland&ll=-27.400742,152.937117&spn=0.000617,0.001206&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=-27.400736,152.937227&panoid=2dmedzJHr-eKmX6AKCQn8w&cbp=12,202.95,,0,-2.89
In the background, near the bridge, is a very large Euc that snapped in half during the storm, like Galbee mentioned.
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Apparently, not confirmed, it's still up there.

Pretty sure, this is the tree, if not, to the right of it. Reasonably high too.
If that's the tree, then it looks like it's still there as of the 12 Sept 2010 (see attached pic). For those who are not aware of NearMap - I would highly recommend a visit to the website - free personal use - high resolution aerial images updated every few months, covering most large Australian cities.
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That's not bad. I know that those two street garden beds to the North have been planted recently, it's hard to tell if the map is picking it up.

Good resolution, thanks for that.
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