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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Yeah, I mentioned in this post. Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors He'll be fined, rightfully so. He reckons he was hit by lightning in the tree too. Quote:
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| Former Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: aus
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the lazy prick ( has been unable to work for 14 or so years , bludged off his missus ) he claims he spent over a 100 days in this tree yet he came down and went for a short jog to see if he could still walk ( I spend 8 hrs aday in a tree working , buggered if I could do a short jog ) this so called disabled twott did not even know the common name of this tree , yet alone the growth habit theres a tree faller in tas who could sort this poor disabled twott |
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| Former Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Picton NSW, Australia
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I love the quote "the worlds biggest idiots". Well really we need to put this into perspective who was the one who spent 100 or so days in a tree and accomplished nothing. I know when I spend my 8 hours a day in the tree there is either no tree or a tree that looks a lot better because I've just spent my time making it look good. Now really who is the idiot certainly not us as arborists. Lets keep up the good work show this guys and other like him where to go. |
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| LOL, 2 more have gone up! Tree Man Replaced By Two More Protesters Quote:
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| Former Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Picton NSW, Australia
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I dont get it why cant people understand that trees just like every other living thing have a life span. Unfortunately in our urban areas trees cant be left to live their natural life as they would in a forrest due to public safety no doubt im preaching to the choir here but its time people started to realise that we need to efficiently manage our amenity trees so they pose a lower risk to the public. I bet these people would be the first ones to condemn the professionals and council if the tree were to fail and fall on either their house or worse themselves. |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melbourne
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Tranquilizer darts should do the trick. |
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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yep,i like the idea of a guy starting a notch while they're up there.they'll come down really quick.
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melbourne
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| Tree gets the chop - The West Australian Quote:
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| Former Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Gold Coast QLD
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It's a bit of a shame to lose that tree - I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone just how long it took to reach that size, or how long it will be before the replacement Jacaranda's will add any sort of visual amenity to the street. Some of the "tree mans" support websites state that they had 2 arborist reports prepared that gave the tree the all clear. If this is true, then the Council cutting it down stinks of them trying to save face. Does anyone know anything about these arborist reports? |
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Tree man is ?fit for trial? - Local news - inMyCommunity - Perth, Western Australia Funny how all these medical problems did not prevent him from obstructing a work place. It would be good to see all reports. Quote:
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Convicted of obstruction total $5500. Tree man found guilty of obstruction - inMyCommunity - Perth, Western Australia Quote:
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| Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany
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Im really surprised with your guys negative outlook on tree preservation. Picking holes in what this guy says, what should he say?...No worries cut it down, it drops leaves in the gutter and like all big trees, they are dangerous... May be they can replant with a nice rose bush How about some professional support, sharing some knowledge? What could they do to preserve the tree and keep everyone happy and safe at the same time? Some reduction and or bracing no doubt its possible. If these guys are keen enough to tree sit for weeks on end then there must be some value in the old tree. He and the other two could be nut jobs but NO one sits in a tree day and night for the hell of it, they dont. |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Not many viable options a council will take to avoid a lawsuit. If reduction is possible then it might be worth a shot. Root barriers would have to be installed to prevent further damage (Council's like saving money and claiming they have none). Bracing won't ever happen on a street tree.
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Here the council are reasonably thorough when they decide to remove a tree. Even in New Farm park they hesitated too long and spent a fortune on diagnostics. I'm unaware if the tree savers got their own arborist report or read the council's arborists report etc, but to fight for retention you need facts and I do not live in Perth to help, I do more than my share to help in my own parts. I see that they claim they got their own reports but I have not read any, did they publish it? I also respect private people's rights to do as they chose with their own unprotected vegetation (providing pruning is in accordance with standards if they prune). This tree was council owned so I personally see it a little different to private owned as the council's assets are the people's assets and sort of paid for by the public purse. The fight being put up in Newcastle for the Laman street figs is totally different, and more effective.
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The council could only act on the information it has,If a large limb had failed during winds while he was up the tree and took him/or a member of public out i wonder what the outcome would be? I wonder what replacement was planted also.
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| Sappling Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Brisbane
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"If in doubt, cut it out".
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If have report saying remove and another report to keep? tree fails who gets sued??? Council
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| Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany
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| I dont know if i would take that bet. Happens over most of the rest of the world. It may take time but ill will get there eventually. Why wouldnt it happen? I hear a fair fre people saying if the tree requires bracing then obviously there is a defect and it has to go... Whats the problem then if the brace does its job? Yea Eric you couldnt ask for much more than that ill agree, if the council are reasonably thorough with assessments and recommendation options then great. Ha yea good questions Lopa, it is tough to find a perfect outcome. I dont know much about the situation so im not going to say much but l respect the fact the bloke is trying to save a tree for a change. Is he not the one with the tree on his property or was it on his neighbors as well? |
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I know quite a few street trees with bolting/bracing,Not Eucys thou.
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Well, lets see some pics of Vic govt trees bolted and braced. I'd like that. Up here, rare. Lightning protection ..... even more rare, like I have never seen one.
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| Really?! Must be a southern Vic thing. Never seen it up this way and the theory goes 'if in doubt cut it out', which in most cases is the best thing as the tree should never have been planted there in the first place.
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I have seen bracing on some Eucs in Ferny Hills, Brisbane, on the edge of a park, hanging over a street. Qualify on all counts? Whether or not it made it through the Gap Storm, I've never bothered to find out. |
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Get some pics, Google map it so we can go see.
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In The Gap storm nothing survived a direct hit! buildings were literally crushed by the wind. I removed 800mm diameter trunks 6 meters high that were snapped off like match sticks no signs of rot or weakness. cabling and bracing helps in normal winds and can be the difference between a house getting hit by a big limb and the limb staying in the tree.
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Apparently, not confirmed, it's still up there. Pretty sure, this is the tree, if not, to the right of it. Reasonably high too. http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ferny+hills&sll=-27.254275,152.963776&sspn=0.009881,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Ferny+Hills+Queensland&ll=-27.400742,152.937117&spn=0.000617,0.001206&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=-27.400736,152.937227&panoid=2dmedzJHr-eKmX6AKCQn8w&cbp=12,202.95,,0,-2.89 In the background, near the bridge, is a very large Euc that snapped in half during the storm, like Galbee mentioned. |
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| Former Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Gold Coast QLD
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| If that's the tree, then it looks like it's still there as of the 12 Sept 2010 (see attached pic). For those who are not aware of NearMap - I would highly recommend a visit to the website - free personal use - high resolution aerial images updated every few months, covering most large Australian cities.
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That's not bad. I know that those two street garden beds to the North have been planted recently, it's hard to tell if the map is picking it up. Good resolution, thanks for that. |
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