palms

ropensaddle · 1st January 2008, 11:03 PM

I have climbed most trees in my land,I have never been to a coast
or climbed a palm tree. They appear to be a challenge and high maintenance am I correct?
The blue gum euc's you have are cool too!

Ekka · 1st January 2008, 11:11 PM

There's many types but generally they suck!

You need to know the bore wing cut and frankly if you dont one hand with a top handled saw you'll be to darn slow!

ropensaddle · 1st January 2008, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

There's many types but generally they suck!

You need to know the bore wing cut and frankly if you dont one hand with a top handled saw you'll be to darn slow!

I one hand, as you will be too darned slow on some of the trees
I climb here. Bore cut I am familiar with even though I have not
used much. Bore wing

Ekka · 1st January 2008, 11:59 PM

First of all Ole Jim1NZ found out about the problem in the pics of this thread, I've linked to the post from where you need to read on, look at the pics.

Jim1NZ downunder

And I must have overlooked posting that video here on TW, but it's there now, this is also another person new to palms getting caught.

The Bore wing|borewing| bore-wing cut for palms

Here's one of the pics.

shaggs · 3rd January 2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ropensaddle

I have climbed most trees in my land,I have never been to a coast
or climbed a palm tree. They appear to be a challenge and high maintenance am I correct?
The blue gum euc's you have are cool too!

High maintenance!!!! Your right there mate.
High maintenance on saws, gear, chipper (if you chip). They're darn heavy and out here people lurv having a gazillion of them around their pool

There are alot worse than the ol' weed coco's palm, you get used to them and they do bring in alot of work

Definately an aquired taste and technique as Ekka described

dannyboysfc · 4th January 2008, 12:44 AM

I was scared of them at first, now I love takin them down. My tallest being a 70 foot tall Washingtonia Robusta or Mexican Fan Palm, they are all over the place here in CA.

JayD · 4th January 2008, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyboysfc

I was scared of them at first, now I love takin them down. My tallest being a 70 foot tall Washingtonia Robusta or Mexican Fan Palm, they are all over the place here in CA.

Becareful, dannyboysfc, These palms will and can kill you quick smart,A bit of fear up there helps to keep you much safer.

Ekka · 4th January 2008, 01:30 AM

I got a doozy livistonea coming up very soon, that's if they dont cancel, might have to helcam it eh?

Therrin · 4th January 2008, 01:38 AM

I know this is a really vague question, but I'm lookin for a ballpark answer.

Say you've got a palm that's 12" dia. What would a 12" tall block of that weigh? (for a live palm) Again, I know I didn't say what type of palm and such, just throw me a rough number for poundage. I guess I didn't realize how heavy the darn things are.

shaggs · 4th January 2008, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

Becareful, dannyboysfc, These palms will and can kill you quick smart,A bit of fear up there helps to keep you much safer.

Fear is there to keep you alive....And when it goes wrong Pain is there to tell you you're still alive!

With a bit of one, you shouldn't have the other!

JayD · 4th January 2008, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggs

Fear is there to keep you alive....And when it goes wrong Pain is there to tell you you're still alive!

With a bit of one, you shouldn't have the other!

......LOL......

Ekka · 4th January 2008, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

I know this is a really vague question, but I'm lookin for a ballpark answer.

Say you've got a palm that's 12" dia. What would a 12" tall block of that weigh? (for a live palm) Again, I know I didn't say what type of palm and such, just throw me a rough number for poundage. I guess I didn't realize how heavy the darn things are.

Well, most palm logs sink in a salt water pool so they weigh more than 1000kgm3

Based on that and assuming your palm is 0.3m dia and a piece is cut 0.3m high, the volume of such a piece would be 0.02121m3

Multiply that by 1000 is 21.21kg or 46.76lb

newguy18 · 4th January 2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I got a doozy livistonea coming up very soon, that's if they dont cancel, might have to helcam it eh?

Please do.

shaggs · 4th January 2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I got a doozy livistonea coming up very soon, that's if they dont cancel, might have to helcam it eh?

Yeah, always up for a (doozy) movie!

JohN Dee · 5th January 2008, 02:24 AM

Palms are great fun to takedown with great challenges and rewards IMO.

My most challenging/funnest Palm td was probably a 12 metre Washy with a full beard. Everything was good about that job. I conquered my first full bearded washy (thanks Trev for the basic technique) and I got the exact price I asked for it.

Ekka · 5th January 2008, 02:38 AM

Yeah, how many wasp nests did you have in that beard?

JohN Dee · 5th January 2008, 03:05 AM

Not one wasp. But a bird flew out at me

The whole time Ive been climbing trees I've never once been bitten by anything whilst in the tree. On the ground I've been bitten by a huntsmen spider and some bug that loves blackbutts, but that's it.

1st January 2008, 11:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
ropensaddle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 53	palms I have climbed most trees in my land,I have never been to a coast or climbed a palm tree. They appear to be a challenge and high maintenance am I correct? The blue gum euc's you have are cool too!

1st January 2008, 11:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,606	Re: palms There's many types but generally they suck! You need to know the bore wing cut and frankly if you dont one hand with a top handled saw you'll be to darn slow! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st January 2008, 11:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,606	Re: palms First of all Ole Jim1NZ found out about the problem in the pics of this thread, I've linked to the post from where you need to read on, look at the pics. Jim1NZ downunder And I must have overlooked posting that video here on TW, but it's there now, this is also another person new to palms getting caught. The Bore wing\|borewing\| bore-wing cut for palms Here's one of the pics. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

4th January 2008, 12:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
dannyboysfc Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 121	Re: palms I was scared of them at first, now I love takin them down. My tallest being a 70 foot tall Washingtonia Robusta or Mexican Fan Palm, they are all over the place here in CA.

4th January 2008, 01:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,606	Re: palms I got a doozy livistonea coming up very soon, that's if they dont cancel, might have to helcam it eh? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

4th January 2008, 01:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,255	Re: palms I know this is a really vague question, but I'm lookin for a ballpark answer. Say you've got a palm that's 12" dia. What would a 12" tall block of that weigh? (for a live palm) Again, I know I didn't say what type of palm and such, just throw me a rough number for poundage. I guess I didn't realize how heavy the darn things are. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

5th January 2008, 02:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 729	Re: palms Palms are great fun to takedown with great challenges and rewards IMO. My most challenging/funnest Palm td was probably a 12 metre Washy with a full beard. Everything was good about that job. I conquered my first full bearded washy (thanks Trev for the basic technique) and I got the exact price I asked for it. __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

5th January 2008, 02:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,606	Re: palms Yeah, how many wasp nests did you have in that beard? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

5th January 2008, 03:05 AM	#17 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 729	Re: palms Not one wasp. But a bird flew out at me The whole time Ive been climbing trees I've never once been bitten by anything whilst in the tree. On the ground I've been bitten by a huntsmen spider and some bug that loves blackbutts, but that's it. __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue