Tree World  


Tree World Sponsor Links and Advertising Rates
Go Back   Tree World > All About Trees > General Tree Chat
Register Advertising Rates TreeZines Forum Rules Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 14th March 2008, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
Sappling
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Glasshouse
Posts: 41
Default Palm Identification

Ekka,

Do you know what this palm is? We were trimming two leopard trees on the footpath today and the lady had asked one of the guys for a quote for something when we noticed this unusual palm. Brook recons its got dreadlocks?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMGP5521.JPG (330.5 KB, 26 views)
File Type: jpg IMGP5522.JPG (330.5 KB, 25 views)
File Type: jpg IMGP5523.JPG (279.2 KB, 22 views)
File Type: jpg IMGP5524.JPG (676.4 KB, 24 views)
File Type: jpg IMGP5525.JPG (329.7 KB, 22 views)
__________________
Bernie
Bernard Keays is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2008, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some
 
Ekka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,869
Default Re: Palm Identification

Interesting.

Looking at first I think Kentia, the stem anyway, however the Kentia leaves droop more. Also kentia fronds are thinner where these are similar to majestic fronds.



Now the flower, could be deformed or fungus ... so I aint 100% sold that's the deal yet.

Good quiz, and palm ID out there is bad I have found, so lets go hunting.
__________________
Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit.

Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping

Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports

Forum Sponsors
Ekka is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2008, 07:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Earth Australia
Posts: 335
Default Re: Palm Identification

How about Lytocaryum weddellianum (Feather Palm) as a guess ... Google Image Result for http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Lytocaryum/weddellianum.jpg

Inflorescence position would help ...and if leaflets are induplicate (V) or reduplicate ... or any other distingushing feature (such as bloom on the underside of leaflets).

Yup ...palms are not easy to ID ... anyway that my (first) guess ...I get 3 goes at it dont I ... (Ekka)????
azrael is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2008, 09:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some
 
Ekka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,869
Default Re: Palm Identification

You get as many goes as you like, I searched but cannot find and also haven't seen such a whacko palm before.

I visit the botanical gardens often and haven't seen one there either.

Nice one Bernard
__________________
Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit.

Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping

Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports

Forum Sponsors
Ekka is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2008, 10:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Sappling
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Glasshouse
Posts: 41
Default Re: Palm Identification

Thanks guys. Ekka...I though it was a kentia palm (H. forsteriana) too when I first saw it but the leaves weren't right. I don't know but could it be another species of kentia (H. belmoreana)? I'm not familiar with Azrael's suggestion either but probably need to read up a bit more on my plant anatomy. The inflorescence was attached to the trunk at the base of the oldest leaf sheath and was slightly pendulous. And what is meant by the term induplicate and reduplicate?
__________________
Bernie
Bernard Keays is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2008, 04:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Earth Australia
Posts: 335
Default Re: Palm Identification

Induplicate/reduplicate refers to the how a leaflet is attached to the rachis ... Induplicate leaflets attached with a V and reduplicate leaves attach with upside-down-V (or A for want of a better keyboard symbol).

In fact image 5524 shows these leaflets attach with an inverted V = reduplicate ... sorry I missed it before.

Anyways ... this arrangement seen in the Cocosoideae sub-family or the Arecoidae sub-family ... hence helpful in eliminating the three other sub-families (which have induplicate leaves).

SO we know its got to be from either of these two sub-families ... choices are narrowing .........................................................

mmmm .... bingo ..... Rhopalostylis sapida (Nikau Palm) ... a NZ native Palm

Rhopalostylis sapida - Google Search
PlantFiles: Pictures of Shaving Brush Palm, Nikau Palm (Rhopalostylis sapida)
azrael is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 17th March 2008, 05:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
Sappling
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Glasshouse
Posts: 41
Default Re: Palm Identification

Thanks...We get the 'odd' Kiwi around here but I didn't know they had their own palms.
__________________
Bernie
Bernard Keays is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2008, 07:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
I'm new here so be nice
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: brisbane
Posts: 2
Default Re: Palm Identification

Bernie,

Your best bet is to ring Stan Walkley at Plantation 2000 Nursery; he's not far from you. He's one of the best palm guys on the face of our wonderful world!

Macro
macrocarpa is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2008, 04:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
Sappling
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Glasshouse
Posts: 41
Default Re: Palm Identification

Thanks Macro...I'm starting to see them every where now. More common than I thought. I went down to Stans nursery about a month ago. He's got an impressive collection of plants (especially his cycads). He had an unusual fig from Mexico and some odd ball stuff from Madagascar and South Africa. I wouldn't mind planting some of his bottle trees either.
__________________
Bernie
Bernard Keays is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Propeller this post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Sponsors Articles
TreeWorld @ 2008