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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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You dont have to be a genius to figure out that many are cutting corners in this dept. Many think it'll never happen to them. Many think, oh he's a contract climber she'll be right. Many think, I'm the boss I'll do whatever the hell I like. Many are wrong! I know things vary from State to State but from personal experience by what I see this industry is a shocker. Extremely high risk but at times a very casual approach. So as a big billboard to say it can happen to you and you can get busted I figured I'd start a thread on real cases. How's this case in Tasmania .... pretty different when they fine the victim for not doing the right thing! (way to go) http://abc.net.au/northtas/news/200407/s1149513.htm Quote:
http://www1.worksafe.vic.gov.au/vwa/...400101B1C?Open Quote:
http://www1.worksafe.vic.gov.au/vwa/...C00288DC4?Open Quote:
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| Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia
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All you can really do Ekka,is find out what they want you to do to comply,eg:white card(green card)do your hazzard risk assement and have all parties sign off on it,regarding their part in the puzzle,have all your manditory insurance..and above all don't be afraid to implement any safety measures..and if any one interferes with this procedure,"say ok sign here" so you can prove they refused to comply!! I mean it's going to be hard as you can't watch your backyard while watching the front,but we have to comply,we try an cover all bases but it is hard as the very thing we do makes folk inquisitive!!!
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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For some reason people think it doesn't apply to them. I have subbed for many crews and what I see doing that plus as I drive around is very poor. What I am trying to achieve here is publicizing the fact that people do get hurt and fined. So if you know of other relevant cases post them here. I know of a few but no fines implemented, you have to search for them, they are out there.
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world
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Ekka have you ever heard of the TFSG (Tree Fellers Safety Group)? I just read a PDF from WorkCover about Tree Felling Fatalties Prevention and it mention this group (TFSG) made up of qualified arbs', foresters aswell as local government and WorkCover officials. They have meetings every 6 weeks with over 500 attendees or so about fatality prevention. They seem big but reading the PDF was the first time I had ever heard of them. I even googled them and it brought nothing up? I'll post the PDF soon..
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Never heard of them, now that would have to be the place where changes are made. I'll hunt around too, how could 500 people keep a secret like that?
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| Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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Here's a break down of what they did up to about 1999 in Victoria, since then the Code of practice has come out with major input from them, as a group they are envolved in consultation with ISAAC re safety issues. Tree Felling Safety Group.doc |
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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How's this case, darn good read. Over $1million awarded! Lopa, dont you have a Rivett? Shutes have to be minimum 1430mm long to infeed roller. http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/judgment...0-SASC-108.htm Quote:
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia
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Yes i know of the case and know Mr Rivett. My chipper had a guy crush his arm under the feed roller with the previous owner,I dont know enough about the story to comment. Basically lifting the roller to try and unjam an odd sized peice of wood without putting a locking pin which is on the chipper. I was suprised with the verdict!Especially since he cant "recall"how his arm ended up in there.
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Yours is the chipper in the clip, you own the arm eating machine.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia
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No it was a company over other side of melbourne Which video clip Ekka?
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world
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Found these accidents and deaths on an UK website by the HSE (Equivlant of WorkCover?) Quote:
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Nice find ... seem like small fines over there though. Lopa, I meant newspaper clipping not video.
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| Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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No you are quite right not a code of practice in Victoria, my erroneous terminology.
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