No trees, please?

Knotahippie · 10th June 2009, 04:01 AM

What benefits could trees possibly create in an urban environment?

The Associated Press: Bronx movement takes root: No trees, please

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Bronx movement takes root: No trees, please
4 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — What's not to like about a tree?

Apparently plenty, if you live one New York City neighborhood.

The New York Daily News says some residents in the Bronx are fuming over the city's plans to plant trees on their block.

They say the roots will eventually crack the sidewalks — and they'll be stuck with the repair bills.

Opponents also fear that fully grown trees will damage their homes, clog sewer drains and entangle power lines in the borough's Mott Haven neighborhood.

Parks officials did not comment on the residents' specific concerns. But they said careful thought goes into each tree planting.

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Gunslinger · 10th June 2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Knotahippie

What benefits could trees possibly create in an urban environment?

The Associated Press: Bronx movement takes root: No trees, please

Well some of their concerns are legit. Old trees around here are constantly ruining sidewalks and the homeowners get stuck with the repair bills. If you don't fix them the town fines you. If someone falls and gets hurt you get sued. Maybe planting those trees next to a sidewalk isn't such a good idea after all. The only caveat is that it's likely that all of the people complaining will be dead before any of those trees actually become a problem.

Eric Frei · 10th June 2009, 08:09 AM

Yeah I heard something about the home-owner being responsible for the footpath over there. Not fair if that's the case.

Sean Freeman · 10th June 2009, 08:15 AM

This news story seems to me to be like so many others more beat up than anything else.

The knowledge as to how to install trees into the urban landscape and provide adequate soil volume free from negative impacts to permit health and stable growth....whilst permitting the normal function of footpaths,roads and services has been around for over 10yrs.

The US has more examples of projects where this has been successfully done than we do here in Oz.

There is no free lunch, the enormous benefits that large spreading shade trees provide requires a long term commitment to the known growth requirements such trees have.

pcarborist · 11th June 2009, 11:54 AM

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Bronx movement takes root: No trees, please
4 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — What's not to like about a tree?

Apparently plenty, if you live one New York City neighborhood.

The New York Daily News says some residents in the Bronx are fuming over the city's plans to plant trees on their block.

They say the roots will eventually crack the sidewalks — and they'll be stuck with the repair bills.

Opponents also fear that fully grown trees will damage their homes, clog sewer drains and entangle power lines in the borough's Mott Haven neighborhood.

Parks officials did not comment on the residents' specific concerns. But they said careful thought goes into each tree planting.

What? They didn't mention that some trees produce pollutants like biogenic volatile organic compounds that can contribute to the formation of ozone and carbon monoxide?????

Knotahippie · 11th June 2009, 01:55 PM

We have a bunch of camphors where I'm at that were planted along sidewalks in the 70's.

Not exactly an eco-friendly tree. Not to mention absolue sidewalk shredders.

Whoever decided to plant liquidambar everywhere was a real genius too...

The pollution caused to maintain certain sp. (with "modern" equipment) far outweighs the enviromental benefits.

At least it's shady in the summer...(cough, cough)

10th June 2009, 08:09 AM	#3
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10th June 2009, 08:15 AM	#4
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: No trees, please? This news story seems to me to be like so many others more beat up than anything else. The knowledge as to how to install trees into the urban landscape and provide adequate soil volume free from negative impacts to permit health and stable growth....whilst permitting the normal function of footpaths,roads and services has been around for over 10yrs. The US has more examples of projects where this has been successfully done than we do here in Oz. There is no free lunch, the enormous benefits that large spreading shade trees provide requires a long term commitment to the known growth requirements such trees have.

11th June 2009, 01:55 PM	#6
Knotahippie Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca. Posts: 355	Re: No trees, please? We have a bunch of camphors where I'm at that were planted along sidewalks in the 70's. Not exactly an eco-friendly tree. Not to mention absolue sidewalk shredders. Whoever decided to plant liquidambar everywhere was a real genius too... The pollution caused to maintain certain sp. (with "modern" equipment) far outweighs the enviromental benefits. At least it's shady in the summer...(cough, cough)

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