More BCC hatracking

Ekka · 16th February 2007, 09:03 PM

I get constant people asking me to prune their gums like this one ... must be OK, this is what the Brisbane City Council done with theirs.

Click on the tabs for the rest of the images including location. This is a Tallowood tree (Eucalyptus microcorys)

There's nothing I've read in anything telling me what's going on and no sign on the tree. Busy road too and is a really obvious. Just like the other ones in Cathedral Square Brisbane.

Sean Freeman · 16th February 2007, 09:10 PM

Mate that is f@#*ing terrible, I'd be emailing BCC on this one if its their crew they need a massive kick up the you know what, and if its contractors then they should read and adhere to their own policies and proceedures

That is soooo out of order it ain't funny

SF

Ekka · 16th February 2007, 09:51 PM

Done, here's the copy

TreeCo · 16th February 2007, 10:08 PM

It's hard to believe they can abuse trees using tax payers money!

Heads need to roll.

Ekka · 16th February 2007, 10:41 PM

This is Queensland mate, she'll be right.

mdvaden · 16th February 2007, 10:53 PM

On your street signs, are the small numbers for map coordinates, or for something else like "15" for the "1500" block, etc.?

The tree stands out too, because nothing in the background resembles it

Ekka · 16th February 2007, 11:01 PM

That's for the range of house numbers on that segment of street ... helps you know which way to turn, left or right.

yooper · 17th February 2007, 08:30 PM

today i brought my 10 yr old to a basket ball game in a town about 80 mils from me, i did r.o.w. clearence there back a few years ago and drove around looking for a campher down elm i knew was in the area, I have to go there tomarrow too maybe ill find it, but i couldnt bealeave the trees in the town that
where trimed the same way all tipped at the branches and suckers just reaming.

Ekka · 17th February 2007, 08:36 PM

When I recently went to Bundaberg and was driving past Sugarland shopping village the street gums were done the same ... lop job.

Then as I drove the entire length of that main road to where the little bridge goes over the creek to the rum factory the large tree by the bridge was lopped as well.

Good to see the law makers being the law slayers.

Notahacker · 17th February 2007, 08:37 PM

I hate seeing trees like that.

yooper · 18th February 2007, 08:37 PM

I took a couple photos today of 2 tree out of serveral on the same street. all the trees where where yard trees none city, and where topped, the only thing i can figure is the

Osama Bin Loggen

was in the area trimmen for a couple weeks back a couple years ago!

this tree is alive!

topped.JPG

this poor feller didnt make it!
topped2.JPG
I guess the sheaple whom where talked into the have the right to have it done if they wanted to but its to bad they wernt better informed. It sure isnt a practice i follow nor will do if asked,and i have been.

Ekka · 18th February 2007, 08:58 PM

Osama Bin Loggen

That first tree that lived if you look at the trunk notice it may have a cavity or something? Bit of snow in the hole.

That's shocking, the second tree died, wonder what sort of tree it was? Pretty severe attacks. You know, I cannot believe in this day age people still do that ... forget the customer asking for it coz that's just ignorance but industry people doing it! That is whacko.

Looking at the form of those trees there were other options and they certainly didn't look like candidates that would fail and fall over. If you are worried about branch failure/ice etc well there's other options but hey ... lets just whack it where the crow flies ... wham bam thankyou mam ... we're outta here and paid. Now they have the ongoing BS.

If you want a 30' tree buy one but dont buy a species that'll grow to a hundred then try to keep it a 30', or worse still, get a 100' one and whack it at 30'. In the first few years you'll think you're ahead (if it lives) but then the haunting will come.

Meanwhile, we got a local govt whacking them for public display on tree care excellence. I saw another today, right beside the bitumin drive way of a park on Wynnum road Murarrie, looks like it was a forest red gum, whacked real good sticking out like a sore thumb.

Ekka · 18th February 2007, 09:04 PM

By the way, on the illustration above in post #1 I would like to know who the crew was who did the job ... what company? If it's a council tree then we have the right to know.

yooper · 18th February 2007, 09:38 PM

The second tree was probably a pretty damm nice tree at one time

.....I think it was a hard maple.

Mrsmorningwood · 19th February 2007, 06:51 AM

We have a collection of topping and lion's tailing pictures. Here are the worst. I thought these trees were coming down and the crew had just gone on lunch break or something. But, no...this is how we make em smaller in SW Florida, I guess (pics ~ 8 mos. after topped)

BTW they're Live Oaks!

Ekka · 19th February 2007, 12:15 PM

Boy o boy

That's a shocker and close to the house. Looks like a nice house. Maybe drop in and have a chat, find out if they knew the consequences.

I find most people have no idea but dig in and defend the practice so they don't look dumb. But I bet when you walk away they feel like a real goose.

But here's a motivational angle, once the client is informed then insurance has a right to deny a claim on the negligence factor for not taking action to remedy the fault. Problem is you don't know who their insurance company is however you can let them know it's on public record and give them the link to this thread.

Then invite the dominant insurance companies to the forum with a link to the thread ... I have done this already many times.

An insurance guy told me there has to be evidence of notification for them to deny a claim ... well, here's a pretty good place to do that ... you could even enter the address just not names ... nothing illegal in that. So if some-one was to search the address they'd get the history.

It's time to get the insurance companies to realise many of the claims pertaining to trees could have been avoided. Did you see the thread I started called "Ignore it then claim insurance"?

OTG BOSTON · 20th February 2007, 04:27 AM

Any reply from the council yet??

16th February 2007, 10:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
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16th February 2007, 10:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
mdvaden Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 578	On your street signs, are the small numbers for map coordinates, or for something else like "15" for the "1500" block, etc.? The tree stands out too, because nothing in the background resembles it __________________ ____________________________________ Grove of Redwood TITANS Oregon BIGOOT trap

16th February 2007, 11:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	That's for the range of house numbers on that segment of street ... helps you know which way to turn, left or right. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

17th February 2007, 08:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	When I recently went to Bundaberg and was driving past Sugarland shopping village the street gums were done the same ... lop job. Then as I drove the entire length of that main road to where the little bridge goes over the creek to the rum factory the large tree by the bridge was lopped as well. Good to see the law makers being the law slayers. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

17th February 2007, 08:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Notahacker Gettin' motoring Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 17	I hate seeing trees like that. __________________ "Quality costs as much as it saves." My great uncle Simon Murphy

16th February 2007, 09:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Mate that is f@#*ing terrible, I'd be emailing BCC on this one if its their crew they need a massive kick up the you know what, and if its contractors then they should read and adhere to their own policies and proceedures That is soooo out of order it ain't funny SF

16th February 2007, 10:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
TreeCo Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 260	It's hard to believe they can abuse trees using tax payers money! Heads need to roll.

17th February 2007, 08:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
yooper Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upper Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 72	today i brought my 10 yr old to a basket ball game in a town about 80 mils from me, i did r.o.w. clearence there back a few years ago and drove around looking for a campher down elm i knew was in the area, I have to go there tomarrow too maybe ill find it, but i couldnt bealeave the trees in the town that where trimed the same way all tipped at the branches and suckers just reaming.

18th February 2007, 08:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
yooper Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upper Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 72	I took a couple photos today of 2 tree out of serveral on the same street. all the trees where where yard trees none city, and where topped, the only thing i can figure is the Osama Bin Loggen was in the area trimmen for a couple weeks back a couple years ago! this tree is alive! topped.JPG this poor feller didnt make it! topped2.JPG I guess the sheaple whom where talked into the have the right to have it done if they wanted to but its to bad they wernt better informed. It sure isnt a practice i follow nor will do if asked,and i have been.

18th February 2007, 08:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Osama Bin Loggen That first tree that lived if you look at the trunk notice it may have a cavity or something? Bit of snow in the hole. That's shocking, the second tree died, wonder what sort of tree it was? Pretty severe attacks. You know, I cannot believe in this day age people still do that ... forget the customer asking for it coz that's just ignorance but industry people doing it! That is whacko. Looking at the form of those trees there were other options and they certainly didn't look like candidates that would fail and fall over. If you are worried about branch failure/ice etc well there's other options but hey ... lets just whack it where the crow flies ... wham bam thankyou mam ... we're outta here and paid. Now they have the ongoing BS. If you want a 30' tree buy one but dont buy a species that'll grow to a hundred then try to keep it a 30', or worse still, get a 100' one and whack it at 30'. In the first few years you'll think you're ahead (if it lives) but then the haunting will come. Meanwhile, we got a local govt whacking them for public display on tree care excellence. I saw another today, right beside the bitumin drive way of a park on Wynnum road Murarrie, looks like it was a forest red gum, whacked real good sticking out like a sore thumb. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

18th February 2007, 09:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	By the way, on the illustration above in post #1 I would like to know who the crew was who did the job ... what company? If it's a council tree then we have the right to know. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

18th February 2007, 09:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
yooper Cruisin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upper Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 72	The second tree was probably a pretty damm nice tree at one time .....I think it was a hard maple.

19th February 2007, 06:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
Mrsmorningwood Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 3	We have a collection of topping and lion's tailing pictures. Here are the worst. I thought these trees were coming down and the crew had just gone on lunch break or something. But, no...this is how we make em smaller in SW Florida, I guess (pics ~ 8 mos. after topped) BTW they're Live Oaks! __________________ I used to be Snow White, but I drifted. ~Mae West

19th February 2007, 12:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Boy o boy That's a shocker and close to the house. Looks like a nice house. Maybe drop in and have a chat, find out if they knew the consequences. I find most people have no idea but dig in and defend the practice so they don't look dumb. But I bet when you walk away they feel like a real goose. But here's a motivational angle, once the client is informed then insurance has a right to deny a claim on the negligence factor for not taking action to remedy the fault. Problem is you don't know who their insurance company is however you can let them know it's on public record and give them the link to this thread. Then invite the dominant insurance companies to the forum with a link to the thread ... I have done this already many times. An insurance guy told me there has to be evidence of notification for them to deny a claim ... well, here's a pretty good place to do that ... you could even enter the address just not names ... nothing illegal in that. So if some-one was to search the address they'd get the history. It's time to get the insurance companies to realise many of the claims pertaining to trees could have been avoided. Did you see the thread I started called "Ignore it then claim insurance"? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

20th February 2007, 04:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
OTG BOSTON Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Any reply from the council yet??