An interesting request....

TrevMcRev · 22nd March 2007, 06:57 PM

So here an email enquiry i received today.

Quote:

Message : We are the managing agents of a property at 123 XXXXXXXX Road XXXXXX which has a tree that is causing problems for the next door tenant. Our client has told us that you can apparently poison the tree by cutting all the branches off leaving no leaves just a bare trunk. Can this be done? If so can you quote to do same

?

Any suggestions for a response?

I was thinking, "What part of "Total Tree Care" do you not seem to understand"

TREE-SURFER · 22nd March 2007, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

"What part of "Total Tree Care" do you not seem to understand"

That would be a good response to the idiot requesting that. Doesn't that sound though that he is asking for a pollard?

Jeff Darby · 22nd March 2007, 08:05 PM

say What!

This why I dont like real estates,they pay you a month later usually a part payment,and expect you to vandalise trees..and if you dont your the idiot !!

Go Figger

Eric Frei · 22nd March 2007, 09:29 PM

I wonder, if a R/E got some dodgy guys in and they committed malpractice pruning, the R/E as the managing agents would have overlooked their professional obligations and could face action!

I'm serious.

They better start knowing what the rules are, requesting professionals and stop feeding the cheap hacks by only looking at price.

Imagine if the R/E authorized pruning works at your rental property and the tree got fully butchered, I'd be suing them no worries. Do they hire unlicensed electricians, plumbers etc? Well, get with the program or get busted ... it's their responsibility to find out what the regulations and standards are.

Sean Freeman · 22nd March 2007, 09:42 PM

Agree totally Ekka it is the same thing, just as we discussed in the insurance thread it amounts to negligent work practice and at the very least less than best practice, at worst a failure in duty of care.

Sean

TrevMcRev · 22nd March 2007, 09:50 PM

Excellent point on the agents ekka. Went to a quote this morning for a gardener arranging the tree work for the body corporate at a commercial property. So its 4th hand info when im asked to lop 12 mature Casuarinas to below the factory roof height. Theyve been done like this before by someone maybe 8 years ago. The gardener understood when i explained things to him, but now hes gotta try n convince everyone higher up the ladder.

These R/E agents, Body Corps etc are often a waste of time, always crap work, done at lower end prices, slow payers. Gotta ask at the end of the day are they worth having as clients. The repeat work from several of em adds up over the year but.........

I think its worth putting up with the few i know from experience are ok, but new ones outta the blue with stupid requests like in my 1st post

but NO

Eric Frei · 22nd March 2007, 09:59 PM

That's a classic, you should send that in to Kurt of Arborage Age.

No lie, 90% of the pruning quotes I'm asked to do are lop/top jobs ... it's friggin rampant here.

Like you said, too many involved, I like to quote the owner / decision maker ... the rest are just interpreters so write a lot down and hand over literature.

How often you spend half an hour with the wife explaining all this hooha about correct pruning, old man gets home from work ... "hey Jane, did ya get that quote from the treelopper, how much?"

Drouin Tree Service · 22nd March 2007, 10:33 PM

More gone for the same money!its cheap lopping LOL

TrevMcRev · 22nd March 2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

How often you spend half an hour with the wife explaining all this hooha about correct pruning, old man gets home from work ... "hey Jane, did ya get that quote from the treelopper, how much?"

Jane: "$1100 to crown redu-somethingorother by 15%"

Old Man:"What $1100 and hes only gonna trim the end bits, The other blokes gonna do heaps more, he'll chop it down 1/2 way for $500 cash"

Jane: "What shall i tell the arbratrist guy"

Old Man:"Tell him hes' dreaming"

Drouin Tree Service · 22nd March 2007, 10:41 PM

I got an e mail from a dept that should know better with trees with a line thru then saying "trimming" tryed to cover it up a bit by putting"must be done by "arbhorist"

TrevMcRev · 22nd March 2007, 10:43 PM

Well they could have added a "W" if they really wanted to rub it in!

Drouin Tree Service · 22nd March 2007, 10:57 PM

I like being asked to cut gums down to stumps so "they bush up"

ArbTrain · 8th May 2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Jane: "$1100 to crown redu-somethingorother by 15%"

Old Man:"What $1100 and hes only gonna trim the end bits, The other blokes gonna do heaps more, he'll chop it down 1/2 way for $500 cash"

Jane: "What shall i tell the arbratrist guy"

Old Man:"Tell him hes' dreaming"

Nice one Trevor,, spot on, unforunately,, a certain south coast council has just lopped a heap of Euc,s 'for the safety of the campers , holiday makers".. epicormics?,, what epicormics?

Eric Frei · 8th May 2011, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArbTrain

Nice one Trevor,, spot on, unforunately,, a certain south coast council has just lopped a heap of Euc,s 'for the safety of the campers , holiday makers".. epicormics?,, what epicormics?

Pictures, addresses/locations, google maps, google earth etc etc etc .... bring it on.

Joshua Rugg · 9th May 2011, 08:05 AM

hahahaha wow. thats awsome trev. just wow... i cant believe people sometimes. someone calls your "tree care" company and asks to have a tree poisoned and lopped. hahahahah these moments make our job seem worth it. how many other jobs can you laugh at customers like this?

22nd March 2007, 08:05 PM	#3
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	say What! This why I dont like real estates,they pay you a month later usually a part payment,and expect you to vandalise trees..and if you dont your the idiot !! Go Figger __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011 Last edited by Jeff Darby; 22nd March 2007 at 08:12 PM. Reason: further thought

22nd March 2007, 09:29 PM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	I wonder, if a R/E got some dodgy guys in and they committed malpractice pruning, the R/E as the managing agents would have overlooked their professional obligations and could face action! I'm serious. They better start knowing what the rules are, requesting professionals and stop feeding the cheap hacks by only looking at price. Imagine if the R/E authorized pruning works at your rental property and the tree got fully butchered, I'd be suing them no worries. Do they hire unlicensed electricians, plumbers etc? Well, get with the program or get busted ... it's their responsibility to find out what the regulations and standards are. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

22nd March 2007, 09:59 PM	#7
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	That's a classic, you should send that in to Kurt of Arborage Age. No lie, 90% of the pruning quotes I'm asked to do are lop/top jobs ... it's friggin rampant here. Like you said, too many involved, I like to quote the owner / decision maker ... the rest are just interpreters so write a lot down and hand over literature. How often you spend half an hour with the wife explaining all this hooha about correct pruning, old man gets home from work ... "hey Jane, did ya get that quote from the treelopper, how much?" __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

22nd March 2007, 10:33 PM	#8
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,727	More gone for the same money!its cheap lopping LOL __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

22nd March 2007, 10:41 PM	#10
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,727	I got an e mail from a dept that should know better with trees with a line thru then saying "trimming" tryed to cover it up a bit by putting"must be done by "arbhorist" __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

22nd March 2007, 09:42 PM	#5
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Agree totally Ekka it is the same thing, just as we discussed in the insurance thread it amounts to negligent work practice and at the very least less than best practice, at worst a failure in duty of care. Sean

22nd March 2007, 09:50 PM	#6
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Excellent point on the agents ekka. Went to a quote this morning for a gardener arranging the tree work for the body corporate at a commercial property. So its 4th hand info when im asked to lop 12 mature Casuarinas to below the factory roof height. Theyve been done like this before by someone maybe 8 years ago. The gardener understood when i explained things to him, but now hes gotta try n convince everyone higher up the ladder. These R/E agents, Body Corps etc are often a waste of time, always crap work, done at lower end prices, slow payers. Gotta ask at the end of the day are they worth having as clients. The repeat work from several of em adds up over the year but......... I think its worth putting up with the few i know from experience are ok, but new ones outta the blue with stupid requests like in my 1st post but NO

22nd March 2007, 10:43 PM	#11
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Well they could have added a "W" if they really wanted to rub it in!

22nd March 2007, 10:57 PM	#12
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,727	I like being asked to cut gums down to stumps so "they bush up" __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne Last edited by Eric Frei; 23rd March 2007 at 11:00 PM. Reason: spelling

9th May 2011, 08:05 AM	#15
Joshua Rugg Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii Posts: 285	Re: An interesting request.... hahahaha wow. thats awsome trev. just wow... i cant believe people sometimes. someone calls your "tree care" company and asks to have a tree poisoned and lopped. hahahahah these moments make our job seem worth it. how many other jobs can you laugh at customers like this? __________________ Stihl MS192T 14" MS200T 16" MS261 16" MS440 25" Husqvarna 359 20" 394XP 32" Poulan P3314 14" ( new hire/groundy saw)

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