Ideas?

Anton · 27th January 2007, 08:42 PM

My gardener friend Iain has told me that when you start a tree surgery business the most important thing is not the trees but the customers, well he is a gardener, so I dont know if he really is right about that.

Iain gave me a book called Practical Tree management by T Lawrence.
He's never used it so gave it to me.

Is this a good book to use as a starting point for a tree surgery business? It does look quite dated.

Snatching looks complicated. But I reckon I am a few months away from stuff like that any way, have to get a harness and rope first.

Are there any other good books?

Regards
Anton

Drouin Tree Service · 27th January 2007, 10:01 PM

Sales is everything in a tree biz,you can be the best climber/tree guy in the world but if your not selling and converting estimates to profit theres zero point being in the game IMO.

Tree climbers companion is a good start.

Anton · 27th January 2007, 11:32 PM

Hi again

What is Treeclimbers companian? Is it like Fishermans friends?

I am confused. Sorry to be a nuisance again!

Regards
Anton

29th January 2007, 10:43 PM

The Tree Climbers Companian is a basic book that covers gear, knots, accent, working the tree and just about anything you would need to get started. Other books that are good is The Art & Science of Practical Rigging and The Tree Climbers Guide. I believe all of these are carried by the ISA. Also the CD Roms are very informative as well. The safety one is great for beginners and there identification one makes following all the latin names a little bit easier.

Eric Frei · 30th January 2007, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Climber020

The Art & Science of Practical Rigging

The video series of this is a must, this is to date I think about the best thing I've seen on ropes and rigging.

TreeCo · 30th January 2007, 12:38 AM

Not to be overlooked is the great training displays at TCIA and ISA meetings(where they set up a tree in the room). Hands on with pro arborist in an open question and answer format is hard to beat.

Brother Colin · 2nd February 2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

The video series of this is a must, this is to date I think about the best thing I've seen on ropes and rigging.

If only they produced it in DVD format as well.

Munkee feet · 5th February 2007, 01:41 AM

I believe one should learn in the class room the proper technique before one ever gets into a tree...or even into the business. This way one could recomend tring to save the tree vs removal of it, or prune correctly...etc. Classes on Business mgt and accounting are also helpful. Best of luck with your jouney.

kauriman · 7th February 2007, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munkee feet

I believe one should learn in the class room the proper technique before one ever gets into a tree...or even into the business. This way one could recomend tring to save the tree vs removal of it, or prune correctly...etc. Classes on Business mgt and accounting are also helpful. Best of luck with your jouney.

Couldn't agree more. If you start off the right way by being taught in a class and on practical sessions you will never regret it. Or have some informal training from a qualified person. As many of the above mentioned books and vids say themselves, they (books and videos) do not and can not replace professional training.

AnnDLui · 9th September 2011, 12:51 PM

Thanks Anton for sharing such wonderful information about trees. This definitely increase my understanding about trees..

treeshaveneeds · 9th September 2011, 04:48 PM

The gardener and a_lopa were right. You can have lots of knowledge and experience with trees, but if there are no customers, or they won't give you a job, unless you are already rich, all that knowledge and experience just stays with you.

And even dated material is generally valuable. It won't show the latest stuff, but it will show you - tell you what works;. you can always build from a good basis.

dingo · 18th September 2011, 12:47 PM

Can anyone reccomend a plant/tree identification reference book that would be relevant to the urban environment on australias sout east coast ie NSW? Is it fair to say that more recent publications are the best due to name changes of plants which had occured?

Eric Frei · 18th September 2011, 09:41 PM

Yes, seriously go to the CSIRO website and have a look.

examples .....

Native Trees and Shrubs of South-Eastern Australia, Leon Costermans, 9781877069703

Forest Trees of Australia, DJ Boland, MIH Brooker, GM Chippendale, N Hall, BPM Hyland, RD Johnston, DA Kleinig, MW McDonald and JD Turner, 9780643069695

Trees for Saltland, N Marcar, D Crawford, P Leppert, T Jovanovic, R Floyd and R Farrow, 9780643101425

Native Plants of the Sydney Region, Alan Fairley and Philip Moore, 9781741755718

27th January 2007, 08:42 PM	#1
Anton Former Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, England Posts: 9	Ideas? My gardener friend Iain has told me that when you start a tree surgery business the most important thing is not the trees but the customers, well he is a gardener, so I dont know if he really is right about that. Iain gave me a book called Practical Tree management by T Lawrence. He's never used it so gave it to me. Is this a good book to use as a starting point for a tree surgery business? It does look quite dated. Snatching looks complicated. But I reckon I am a few months away from stuff like that any way, have to get a harness and rope first. Are there any other good books? Regards Anton

27th January 2007, 10:01 PM	#2
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,697	Sales is everything in a tree biz,you can be the best climber/tree guy in the world but if your not selling and converting estimates to profit theres zero point being in the game IMO. Tree climbers companion is a good start. __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

5th February 2007, 01:41 AM	#8
Munkee feet Sappling Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6	class room I believe one should learn in the class room the proper technique before one ever gets into a tree...or even into the business. This way one could recomend tring to save the tree vs removal of it, or prune correctly...etc. Classes on Business mgt and accounting are also helpful. Best of luck with your jouney.

9th September 2011, 12:51 PM	#10
AnnDLui I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Barlin, Germaney Posts: 1	Re: Ideas? Thanks Anton for sharing such wonderful information about trees. This definitely increase my understanding about trees..

9th September 2011, 04:48 PM	#11
treeshaveneeds Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,399	Re: Ideas? The gardener and a_lopa were right. You can have lots of knowledge and experience with trees, but if there are no customers, or they won't give you a job, unless you are already rich, all that knowledge and experience just stays with you. And even dated material is generally valuable. It won't show the latest stuff, but it will show you - tell you what works;. you can always build from a good basis. __________________ My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports Consulting Forester If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too ! We do great jobs, even in small yards. Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered) Email -- treeshaveneeds@3web.com Cell 416-460-5704

27th January 2007, 11:32 PM	#3
Anton Former Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, England Posts: 9	Hi again What is Treeclimbers companian? Is it like Fishermans friends? I am confused. Sorry to be a nuisance again! Regards Anton

29th January 2007, 10:43 PM	#4
Climber020 Posts: n/a	The Tree Climbers Companian is a basic book that covers gear, knots, accent, working the tree and just about anything you would need to get started. Other books that are good is The Art & Science of Practical Rigging and The Tree Climbers Guide. I believe all of these are carried by the ISA. Also the CD Roms are very informative as well. The safety one is great for beginners and there identification one makes following all the latin names a little bit easier.

30th January 2007, 12:38 AM	#6
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 307	Not to be overlooked is the great training displays at TCIA and ISA meetings(where they set up a tree in the room). Hands on with pro arborist in an open question and answer format is hard to beat.

18th September 2011, 12:47 PM	#12
dingo Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sydney Posts: 67	Re: Ideas? Can anyone reccomend a plant/tree identification reference book that would be relevant to the urban environment on australias sout east coast ie NSW? Is it fair to say that more recent publications are the best due to name changes of plants which had occured?

18th September 2011, 09:41 PM	#13
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,815	Re: Ideas? Yes, seriously go to the CSIRO website and have a look. examples ..... Native Trees and Shrubs of South-Eastern Australia, Leon Costermans, 9781877069703 Forest Trees of Australia, DJ Boland, MIH Brooker, GM Chippendale, N Hall, BPM Hyland, RD Johnston, DA Kleinig, MW McDonald and JD Turner, 9780643069695 Trees for Saltland, N Marcar, D Crawford, P Leppert, T Jovanovic, R Floyd and R Farrow, 9780643101425 Native Plants of the Sydney Region, Alan Fairley and Philip Moore, 9781741755718 __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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