How do you handle dangerous trees?

newguy18 · 8th April 2009, 04:24 PM

Just a thread and poll to see how others handle dead,dangerous or badly decayed trees,also share ideas with others on how you would do it.

Eric Frei · 8th April 2009, 08:34 PM

Well, it depends on many factors including access, so it's hard to tick any particular bax.

Jeff Darby · 8th April 2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Well, it depends on many factors including access, so it's hard to tick any particular bax.

I'm with Ekka on this one there's way to many things to consider, see and access before you can even consider ticking any box's

TrevMcRev · 8th April 2009, 10:40 PM

Any of the above, every tree is a unique challenge, there is no one rule to it.

But if you were local i'd give you $100 to do all the dodgy ones!

Jeff Darby · 8th April 2009, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Any of the above, every tree is a unique challenge, there is no one rule to it.

But if you were local i'd give you $100 to do all the dodgy ones!

LOL..I considered giving Bill a hundred too but I didn't want to encourage him..LOL..

Garry Brockley · 8th April 2009, 11:09 PM

i would say that use a mewp every time but every tree is different every situation different but go for the safest way everytime,
however last week i dismantled a seriously dodgy tree at the bottom of a garden over a neighbours house with no access for anything, the boss got me to look at it first then asked if i wanted to do it, i thought long and hard about it went through many senarios then climbed it and assessed as i went, slow and easy the whole time, when i got it to the floor i was more tired than i have every been, i was so on edge the whole climb i had been tensed up from my fingers to my toes, i slept heavy for eight hours for two days and if you know me i dont sleep more than 4 hours at a time.it was that big it took three men 8 hours to get it out to the truck.
climb safe
G

treefeller · 9th April 2009, 07:01 AM

I went for mewp but if their are trees near then ill use them to tie into and then work the dangerous one.

Therrin · 9th April 2009, 06:41 PM

Since it's hard to say for such a dynamic question, I voted for everything EXCEPT giving NG $100 to do it.

treefeller · 10th April 2009, 06:01 AM

Ill take the 100$ instead

treejames64 · 10th April 2009, 12:19 PM

There's a few I've seen that I've driven on past but when someone calls me I usually stick a big fat number on them an hope they don't come through. If they do and I can't get equipment to them with no other trees around I guy them all the way up and use the dynamic rope tie in as discussed in the dead tree challenge. There's been a few that have kept me awake thinking about a better way to do them. Also prayer helps.....

Buckstree · 10th April 2009, 12:41 PM

I like the idea of tip tying , using another tree as a crane , or my favorite the bucket truck. I very seldom run into trees that can't be removed using conventional methods. We had a guy recently killed when he hitched the top out of a dead pine and snapped the tree at the base and was killed when the tree crushed him... I recently left a estimate where there was a live white oak tree that had heavy damage at the root flare, there was no access with the truck and it stood alone.. The homeowner didn't want to pay to have the tree removed safely so I left.

philinsydney · 16th April 2009, 09:58 PM

Tree felling is a heroic profession.....but I'll stick to office worker.

newguy18 · 17th April 2009, 12:58 PM

Can't beat the feeling of coming down out of a real nasty tree to fell the remainder,gives a sense of accomplishmeent.

Bernard Keays · 20th April 2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treefeller

I went for mewp but if their are trees near then ill use them to tie into and then work the dangerous one.

I agree with treefeller on this one. If you can tie in and or rig off the neighbouring trees all the better. But every job is different. The worst tree I have ever removed was a dead coral tree (Erythrina). And I couldn't have done it without my groundie. Worth his weight in gold.

dov · 6th December 2009, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philinsydney

Tree felling is a heroic profession.....but I'll stick to office worker.

Heroes don't last long. I go with caution, knowledge and planning instead. I don't go up a tree unless I'm bloody sure I'm coming back down it alive and well.

dov · 6th December 2009, 12:07 PM

There are dangerous trees I've done (tree blown over and hanging, rotten whatever) or will try. Some trees I just refuse to touch.

There is a Euc at my parent's place for example. 25m, dead for about 15yrs and you can see the honeycombed termite eaten rotten wood where the bark has fallen away. It's got other trees around it, will make a mess of the garden when it comes down, but there is no way on God's green Earth that I am going near the thing with a chainsaw! I'm removing some other dead trees for them, but I won't touch that one.

newguy18 · 6th December 2009, 03:08 PM

I had a pine tree once that was partially blown over and hung up in another pine,i just spiked up the one that blew over.Now that was dodgy.

pomie · 11th December 2009, 07:58 PM

get the contract climber in ha ha

terry · 11th December 2009, 10:43 PM

quote it good,slow and steady lowering smaller pieces than usual.had one recently, spike fully sank into trunk about 3m up it was like a sponge,went up another 6m to top it,a bit nerve rakking.dead rotten trees are weaker but load from limbs are lighter,it helps if your 75kg ringing wet.

newguy18 · 12th December 2009, 02:44 PM

Climbed a 40' rotten as it gets black cherry yesterday,cut all 3 tops out and when they hit they just blew apart.

stirmantrees · 12th December 2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pomie

get the contract climber in ha ha

+1
lol

NeTree · 15th December 2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Well, it depends on many factors including access, so it's hard to tick any particular bax.

Precisely.

My answer would be whatever method allows me to follow my priorities:

Safety of people first, Safety of property second, Protecting my pride last.

NeTree · 15th December 2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pomie

get the contract climber in ha ha

All well and good, but that's usually ME.

stirmantrees · 16th December 2009, 10:55 AM

funny, sometimes i'll get a contract climber on some stuff and then someone will contract me in on some scary stuff.
i just like the break sometimes.

chainsaw charlie · 16th December 2009, 03:48 PM

Well depends on condition of tree, access, availability of others trees to tie into. My boss lets me know in advance of a dangerous tree that has to be removed, i assess it for climbing, if i can't climb, we use cherry picker. If no access for chery picker we use alternate ways like scaffollding.
Seem to be removing more dead trees lately, especially evergreen alders and silver birches, and quite a few dead gum trees.

View Poll Results: How do you remove dangerous trees.
ewp or bucket,no way i'll climb it.	9	31.03%
let another guy do it.	4	13.79%
Crane	11	37.93%
tie in to another tree	23	79.31%
guy the dangerous tree	7	24.14%
fell it in the path of least resistance.	10	34.48%
Give newguy 100 bucks to climb it.=)	3	10.34%
Let nature take its course,homeowner should have removed it sooner.	1	3.45%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

8th April 2009, 04:24 PM	#1
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	How do you handle dangerous trees? Just a thread and poll to see how others handle dead,dangerous or badly decayed trees,also share ideas with others on how you would do it. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th April 2009, 08:34 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Well, it depends on many factors including access, so it's hard to tick any particular bax. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th April 2009, 10:40 PM	#4
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Any of the above, every tree is a unique challenge, there is no one rule to it. But if you were local i'd give you $100 to do all the dodgy ones!

8th April 2009, 11:09 PM	#6
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? i would say that use a mewp every time but every tree is different every situation different but go for the safest way everytime, however last week i dismantled a seriously dodgy tree at the bottom of a garden over a neighbours house with no access for anything, the boss got me to look at it first then asked if i wanted to do it, i thought long and hard about it went through many senarios then climbed it and assessed as i went, slow and easy the whole time, when i got it to the floor i was more tired than i have every been, i was so on edge the whole climb i had been tensed up from my fingers to my toes, i slept heavy for eight hours for two days and if you know me i dont sleep more than 4 hours at a time.it was that big it took three men 8 hours to get it out to the truck. climb safe G __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

9th April 2009, 07:01 AM	#7
treefeller Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: aaa Posts: 224	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? I went for mewp but if their are trees near then ill use them to tie into and then work the dangerous one.

9th April 2009, 06:41 PM	#8
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Since it's hard to say for such a dynamic question, I voted for everything EXCEPT giving NG $100 to do it.

10th April 2009, 06:01 AM	#9
treefeller Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: aaa Posts: 224	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Ill take the 100$ instead

10th April 2009, 12:19 PM	#10
treejames64 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gainesville, fl Posts: 104	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? There's a few I've seen that I've driven on past but when someone calls me I usually stick a big fat number on them an hope they don't come through. If they do and I can't get equipment to them with no other trees around I guy them all the way up and use the dynamic rope tie in as discussed in the dead tree challenge. There's been a few that have kept me awake thinking about a better way to do them. Also prayer helps.....

10th April 2009, 12:41 PM	#11
Buckstree Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: new jersey Posts: 50	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? I like the idea of tip tying , using another tree as a crane , or my favorite the bucket truck. I very seldom run into trees that can't be removed using conventional methods. We had a guy recently killed when he hitched the top out of a dead pine and snapped the tree at the base and was killed when the tree crushed him... I recently left a estimate where there was a live white oak tree that had heavy damage at the root flare, there was no access with the truck and it stood alone.. The homeowner didn't want to pay to have the tree removed safely so I left.

16th April 2009, 09:58 PM	#12
philinsydney Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 110	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Tree felling is a heroic profession.....but I'll stick to office worker.

17th April 2009, 12:58 PM	#13
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Can't beat the feeling of coming down out of a real nasty tree to fell the remainder,gives a sense of accomplishmeent. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

6th December 2009, 12:07 PM	#16
dov Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 651	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? There are dangerous trees I've done (tree blown over and hanging, rotten whatever) or will try. Some trees I just refuse to touch. There is a Euc at my parent's place for example. 25m, dead for about 15yrs and you can see the honeycombed termite eaten rotten wood where the bark has fallen away. It's got other trees around it, will make a mess of the garden when it comes down, but there is no way on God's green Earth that I am going near the thing with a chainsaw! I'm removing some other dead trees for them, but I won't touch that one. __________________

6th December 2009, 03:08 PM	#17
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? I had a pine tree once that was partially blown over and hung up in another pine,i just spiked up the one that blew over.Now that was dodgy. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

11th December 2009, 07:58 PM	#18
pomie Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: brisbane Posts: 84	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? get the contract climber in ha ha

11th December 2009, 10:43 PM	#19
terry Former Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: sydney australia Posts: 22	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? quote it good,slow and steady lowering smaller pieces than usual.had one recently, spike fully sank into trunk about 3m up it was like a sponge,went up another 6m to top it,a bit nerve rakking.dead rotten trees are weaker but load from limbs are lighter,it helps if your 75kg ringing wet.

12th December 2009, 02:44 PM	#20
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Climbed a 40' rotten as it gets black cherry yesterday,cut all 3 tops out and when they hit they just blew apart. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

16th December 2009, 10:55 AM	#24
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? funny, sometimes i'll get a contract climber on some stuff and then someone will contract me in on some scary stuff. i just like the break sometimes.

16th December 2009, 03:48 PM	#25
chainsaw charlie Sappling Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: carnegie Posts: 22	Re: How do you handle dangerous trees? Well depends on condition of tree, access, availability of others trees to tie into. My boss lets me know in advance of a dangerous tree that has to be removed, i assess it for climbing, if i can't climb, we use cherry picker. If no access for chery picker we use alternate ways like scaffollding. Seem to be removing more dead trees lately, especially evergreen alders and silver birches, and quite a few dead gum trees.

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