High viz clothing or regular clothing

Victor Lindsay · 26th September 2011, 02:19 AM

Uniforms are a confidence factor that clients look for, and when all your crew has a uniform appearance, like yellow, the client see that as a positive. It's good for business!

kaazih · 26th September 2011, 07:30 AM

Why do a lot of people still prefer wearing short sleeves (hi-vis or not) when doing tree work?

Three separate companies that I contract for have a short sleeve uniform that I will only wear over the top of my own long sleeve hi-vis if it's cold. Otherwise I'm wearing long sleeves only.

For me, the no. 1 reason is protection from abrasions/scratches followed by protection from the sun. My nearly translucent skin burns in minutes. I'd rather be a bit hotter than have to lather on even more sunscreen. When you're already wearing a helmet, chainsaw pants, boots and dragging a chainsaw up a tree I doubt the short sleeves make you that much cooler - maybe psychologically.

If wearing short sleeves minimises the chances of being dragged into a chipper than why not wear a singlet or go topless (or come out of the tree and sharpen your big saw while the groundies finish off the chipping

)

Anyway, it's drizzling outside so I need to find that rain jacket...

Eric Frei · 26th September 2011, 08:34 AM

I wear short sleeves 100% of the time.

Brent Ferris · 27th September 2011, 05:26 PM

These shirts sound really good Trev, but they don't come any larger than large?

Sam Beazley · 27th September 2011, 07:27 PM

i wear both long and short sleeve hi vis drill cotton shirts mainly yellow but will wear orange to. in summer i wear a hi vis singlet. does anyone know if they have changed the rules about wearing a singlet while doing tree work?

Tony Knight · 27th September 2011, 08:09 PM

Long sleeve all the way, got the best of both worlds, roll em up or button them down. Learned my lesson a few years ago with singlets, skin cancer alone scares the crap out of me, it worries me that even thou I take steps to cover up these days I might still pay for the past indiscretions.

Cheers

Tony

Jeff Darby · 27th September 2011, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony K

Long sleeve all the way, got the best of both worlds, roll em up or button them down. Learned my lesson a few years ago with singlets, skin cancer alone scares the crap out of me, it worries me that even thou I take steps to cover up these days I might still pay for the past indiscretions.

Cheers

Tony

Such is life, hindsight is always 20/20,dont beat yourself up over it cause if the sin is done your got no choice but to live it out... I wear long sleeve high vis because it is in our OHS policy but they are rolled up and down for convenience. Hi vis all the way every one is much easier to see.

TrevMcRev · 27th September 2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treeshaveneeds

These shirts sound really good Trev, but they don't come any larger than large?

Hi Brent, We stock S to L but can order in up to XXXL i think. I know i do have one random red/yellow long sleeve in XXL though...

TrevMcRev · 27th September 2011, 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=Tony K;117581]Long sleeve all the way, got the best of both worlds, roll em up or button them down. Learned my lesson a few years ago with singlets, skin cancer alone scares the crap [QUOTE]

Tony, and all of us working outdoors, THE #1 thing around skin cancer in my opinion is REGULAR skin checks. Slip, slop, slap etc is all well and good for prevention. However, we have all had exposure in the past that could be the catalyst for skin cancer. Remember being burnt to a crisp as a kid???

Skin checks found a suss mole that turned out to be stage 2 melanoma in my wife. Removed a scotch fillet steak sized piece from her back quickly and with 3 monthly checks since she has been cancer free for 2 years now.

Without early detection and action she would likely not still be here.

I urge anyone to get checked, don't ignore it, you're not too busy, and the stupidest excuse i've heard is "What if they find something"!

Jim Stynes tried the ignore it approach and it didn't work out that well for him.

If you work outdoors, have ever been badly sunburnt or had a solarium, get checked.

Joshua Rugg · 27th September 2011, 11:59 PM

maybe we should change our names to "Native Tree service" and wear loin cloths and grass skirts. would hate to get caught in the chipper

haha imagine a crew with nothing on other then saw chaps and PPE haha

Rob Chace · 5th October 2011, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard-as-Stihl

maybe we should change our names to "Native Tree service" and wear loin cloths and grass skirts. would hate to get caught in the chipper

haha imagine a crew with nothing on other then saw chaps and PPE haha

i just spewed up a litlle.....

Joshua Rugg · 27th October 2011, 04:11 AM

ok guys, i bit the bullet. as much as i like my arborwear, i bought a few high viz yellow shirts for roadside work.

Paul Toivonen · 30th October 2011, 07:24 PM

I think hi-viz is a necessity these days for all the uni bred 'tards out there.
I have had them walk straight into bollards, drive over witches hats and drag them down the road, walk thru tape etc. I dont wear viz on private jobs but if in a public area/roadway/footpath etc. definitely.
At least it covers your butt, also it helps bosses catch the workers bludging.

Apocalypsse · 30th October 2011, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMoses

I think hi-viz is a necessity these days for all the uni bred 'tards out there.
I have had them walk straight into bollards, drive over witches hats and drag them down the road, walk thru tape etc. I dont wear viz on private jobs but if in a public area/roadway/footpath etc. definitely.

Lol what, the worst I've seen for people walking into things was a guy walked into a witches hat. I have seen an unknown number of people completely ignore things like traffic control to drive into a site, park directly under a climber and proceed to ask us for if he could have firewood. Another one that stands out is a guy walking directly under my polesaw as I'm cutting a branch over a footpath, the second he slowly walked passed the branch came down. A lot of people are oblivious to the dangers our industry poses to them and their idiocy.

KevinE · 31st October 2011, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypsse

Lol what, the worst I've seen for people walking into things was a guy walked into a witches hat. I have seen an unknown number of people completely ignore things like traffic control to drive into a site, park directly under a climber and proceed to ask us for if he could have firewood. Another one that stands out is a guy walking directly under my polesaw as I'm cutting a branch over a footpath, the second he slowly walked passed the branch came down. A lot of people are oblivious to the dangers our industry poses to them and their idiocy.

I'm glad I'm not the only one lol!

I made the mistake of doing a job on Portrush Rd; 1st truck took my witches hats from around my vehicle, kept happening, so I left them where they fell & held my breath until I could get outta there! NEVER AGAIN!

Tony Knight · 31st October 2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypsse

Lol what, the worst I've seen for people walking into things was a guy walked into a witches hat. I have seen an unknown number of people completely ignore things like traffic control to drive into a site, park directly under a climber and proceed to ask us for if he could have firewood. Another one that stands out is a guy walking directly under my polesaw as I'm cutting a branch over a footpath, the second he slowly walked passed the branch came down. A lot of people are oblivious to the dangers our industry poses to them and their idiocy.

Alot of people lack the instinct of self preservation, if it wasn't for litigation I could just explain the mortality with Darwin's Theory.

Cheers

Tony

TrevMcRev · 31st October 2011, 09:58 PM

I remember years ago working for someone else being up a tree overhanging a footpath. We had witches hats blocking it from both ends and a woman wheeling a baby in a pram just parted the cones and walked on in, not once looking up, like she just though someone must have accidently left them there or something. I gave the saw a big rev as she walked under, still barely a reaction

Sam Beazley · 31st October 2011, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

I remember years ago working for someone else being up a tree overhanging a footpath. We had witches hats blocking it from both ends and a woman wheeling a baby in a pram just parted the cones and walked on in, not once looking up, like she just though someone must have accidently left them there or something. I gave the saw a big rev as she walked under, still barely a reaction

The same thing happened to my mate when he was working near bondi beach he just put his bottom cut in a branch and was about 2 do his top cut when he looked down and saw a woman with 2 little kids come walking right under where he was about to drop this branch from 18metres up.

Done it · 1st November 2011, 11:14 PM

I was putting the back cut in a big cocas palm a couple of years ago, going to drop it down the driveway into really quiet cul de sac, witches hats out and I could see everything, no problem.

Someone tapped me on the shoulder just as it was about to go, scared the hell out of me. He said something and pointed to a tree next door, I told him ******. I recognised him, one of the top Dermatologists around I'd been to him, 3-4 months to get an appointment, he came through a gate in the back. People amaze me.

redmower · 1st November 2011, 11:40 PM

As with Done it a while ago while back cutting a cocos palm, this time planning to land it in my mate's pool. All going well until at the last minute his missus pops up beside the pool fence to watch the boys at work. Her question regarding how things were going with the job was answered by the massive splash and total drenching she copped. Thankfully she just laughed it off with the rest of us after a very nervous pause.

Yeah, you think you have the site controlled ..... how often is it halfway thru the back cut when something unwanted happens.

BS564 · 12th November 2011, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard-as-Stihl

must just be a hawaii thing then because not alot of people wear high viz here. haha on fridays we wear aloha shirts sometimes. haha

On Oahu, almost all the construction and tree companies have hi viz T shirts.

Joshua Rugg · 13th November 2011, 04:57 AM

all the good ones you mean. which is like oh i dunno every 2 outta like 10 companies. haha! we have alot undereducated fakes here who think they are hot shots.

View Poll Results: to wear high viz or not to wear high viz
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26th September 2011, 02:19 AM	#31
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ? Posts: 441	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing Uniforms are a confidence factor that clients look for, and when all your crew has a uniform appearance, like yellow, the client see that as a positive. It's good for business!

26th September 2011, 07:30 AM	#32
kaazih Sappling Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 28	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing Why do a lot of people still prefer wearing short sleeves (hi-vis or not) when doing tree work? Three separate companies that I contract for have a short sleeve uniform that I will only wear over the top of my own long sleeve hi-vis if it's cold. Otherwise I'm wearing long sleeves only. For me, the no. 1 reason is protection from abrasions/scratches followed by protection from the sun. My nearly translucent skin burns in minutes. I'd rather be a bit hotter than have to lather on even more sunscreen. When you're already wearing a helmet, chainsaw pants, boots and dragging a chainsaw up a tree I doubt the short sleeves make you that much cooler - maybe psychologically. If wearing short sleeves minimises the chances of being dragged into a chipper than why not wear a singlet or go topless (or come out of the tree and sharpen your big saw while the groundies finish off the chipping ) Anyway, it's drizzling outside so I need to find that rain jacket...

26th September 2011, 08:34 AM	#33
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing I wear short sleeves 100% of the time. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

27th September 2011, 05:26 PM	#34
Brent Ferris Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,557	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing These shirts sound really good Trev, but they don't come any larger than large? __________________ My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports Consulting Forester If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too ! We do great jobs, even in small yards. Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered) Email -- treeshaveneeds@3web.com Cell 416-460-5704

27th September 2011, 07:27 PM	#35
Sam Beazley Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bulli N.S.W Posts: 105	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing i wear both long and short sleeve hi vis drill cotton shirts mainly yellow but will wear orange to. in summer i wear a hi vis singlet. does anyone know if they have changed the rules about wearing a singlet while doing tree work?

27th September 2011, 08:09 PM	#36
Tony Knight Mature tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 311	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing Long sleeve all the way, got the best of both worlds, roll em up or button them down. Learned my lesson a few years ago with singlets, skin cancer alone scares the crap out of me, it worries me that even thou I take steps to cover up these days I might still pay for the past indiscretions. Cheers Tony

27th September 2011, 10:51 PM	#39
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing [QUOTE=Tony K;117581]Long sleeve all the way, got the best of both worlds, roll em up or button them down. Learned my lesson a few years ago with singlets, skin cancer alone scares the crap [QUOTE] Tony, and all of us working outdoors, THE #1 thing around skin cancer in my opinion is REGULAR skin checks. Slip, slop, slap etc is all well and good for prevention. However, we have all had exposure in the past that could be the catalyst for skin cancer. Remember being burnt to a crisp as a kid??? Skin checks found a suss mole that turned out to be stage 2 melanoma in my wife. Removed a scotch fillet steak sized piece from her back quickly and with 3 monthly checks since she has been cancer free for 2 years now. Without early detection and action she would likely not still be here. I urge anyone to get checked, don't ignore it, you're not too busy, and the stupidest excuse i've heard is "What if they find something"! Jim Stynes tried the ignore it approach and it didn't work out that well for him. If you work outdoors, have ever been badly sunburnt or had a solarium, get checked.

27th September 2011, 11:59 PM	#40
Joshua Rugg Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii Posts: 285	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing maybe we should change our names to "Native Tree service" and wear loin cloths and grass skirts. would hate to get caught in the chipper haha imagine a crew with nothing on other then saw chaps and PPE haha __________________ Stihl MS192T 14" MS200T 16" MS261 16" MS440 25" Husqvarna 359 20" 394XP 32" Poulan P3314 14" ( new hire/groundy saw)

27th October 2011, 04:11 AM	#42
Joshua Rugg Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii Posts: 285	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing ok guys, i bit the bullet. as much as i like my arborwear, i bought a few high viz yellow shirts for roadside work. __________________ Stihl MS192T 14" MS200T 16" MS261 16" MS440 25" Husqvarna 359 20" 394XP 32" Poulan P3314 14" ( new hire/groundy saw)

30th October 2011, 07:24 PM	#43
Paul Toivonen Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AUS Posts: 134	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing I think hi-viz is a necessity these days for all the uni bred 'tards out there. I have had them walk straight into bollards, drive over witches hats and drag them down the road, walk thru tape etc. I dont wear viz on private jobs but if in a public area/roadway/footpath etc. definitely. At least it covers your butt, also it helps bosses catch the workers bludging.

31st October 2011, 09:58 PM	#47
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing I remember years ago working for someone else being up a tree overhanging a footpath. We had witches hats blocking it from both ends and a woman wheeling a baby in a pram just parted the cones and walked on in, not once looking up, like she just though someone must have accidently left them there or something. I gave the saw a big rev as she walked under, still barely a reaction

1st November 2011, 11:14 PM	#49
Done it Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia. Posts: 780	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing I was putting the back cut in a big cocas palm a couple of years ago, going to drop it down the driveway into really quiet cul de sac, witches hats out and I could see everything, no problem. Someone tapped me on the shoulder just as it was about to go, scared the hell out of me. He said something and pointed to a tree next door, I told him ******. I recognised him, one of the top Dermatologists around I'd been to him, 3-4 months to get an appointment, he came through a gate in the back. People amaze me.

1st November 2011, 11:40 PM	#50
redmower Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2010 Location: sub-tropical Queensland Posts: 75	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing As with Done it a while ago while back cutting a cocos palm, this time planning to land it in my mate's pool. All going well until at the last minute his missus pops up beside the pool fence to watch the boys at work. Her question regarding how things were going with the job was answered by the massive splash and total drenching she copped. Thankfully she just laughed it off with the rest of us after a very nervous pause. Yeah, you think you have the site controlled ..... how often is it halfway thru the back cut when something unwanted happens.

13th November 2011, 04:57 AM	#52
Joshua Rugg Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii Posts: 285	Re: High viz clothing or regular clothing all the good ones you mean. which is like oh i dunno every 2 outta like 10 companies. haha! we have alot undereducated fakes here who think they are hot shots. __________________ Stihl MS192T 14" MS200T 16" MS261 16" MS440 25" Husqvarna 359 20" 394XP 32" Poulan P3314 14" ( new hire/groundy saw)

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