Help from our friends in the US

Ekka

Yeah, email the Jews!

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Therrin

I bought an MS200T off ebay, the guy lived in Ohio... sent it here to me in California. Cost $250 total, in used condition. Took it to the local Stihl shop... needed $100 worth to get it all purrin like a kitten again, but it was worth it. $350 total for it. Came with a new 16" bar and chain.

I was just in the shop today lookin at the 361 and the 441. The 361 was $625, and the 551 was $799, and there, the MS200T goes for $529

Ekka

Dont rub it in.

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Therrin

what, you Aussies don't have Ebay? ;-)

wait, I can say "Aussie" right? or is it like calling you an...uhh... "n-word" <puzzled look>

Sean Freeman

"Aussie" is good mate!

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JayD

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie,
Oi, Oi, Oi.

...........LOL............

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shaggs

Maybe Therrin can package up all the MS200's for us and send them over!! Oh, and a couple of Vermeer 1800's!!! LOL

a_lopa

I wouldnt mind trying a 361 stihl...

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shaggs

So when does Therrin throw a heap of MS200's in a box for us???? Oh,, and a couple of Vermeer 1800's while your at it!!!! LOL

Therrin

Why Shaggs, I'd be happy to send you a Vermeer 1800. I'll simply package each individual part in its own box so that its convenient for you to stroll down to the P.O. and bring each one home. After, oh, 2 or 3 months you should have all the pieces.

I had mentioned in the "aluminum vs. steel" thread that if someone can give me a shipping quote I'd be happy to mail you guys biners and such.

pomme

Diameter at breast height

shaggs

Therrin, much appreciated your offer with the 1800.
Just dont forget to send me the air for the tyres as well
Keep in mind the other stuff

playfordtree

Okay consider the jews emailed.

I sent this at 2.50pm this afternoon.

I cant wait to hear their reply

They had this stupid "contact us" box not an actual email setup, i couldn't even find an email address (though i didnt spend a lot of time looking)
I had to copy my letter to microsoft word and then attach it here.
There must be an easier way.
How did you insert those emails into your posts Ekka?

Keep you posted if and when they reply.

Attached Files

email to stihl.doc (21.5 KB, 44 views)

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Ekka

I just copy paste them then wrap them in quote tags.

You'll just get the same ole BS answer that Australia has high taxed, duties and freight costs.

Same ole same ole.

Their solution might be to double to USA price inline with everywhere else.

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Quintrex

Playford (Simon) thanks for the effort, I hope it does some good.
Steve

playfordtree

Now that,

would be friggin funny.


With that sort of thinking you could get yourself a job as a corporate economist tomorrow!

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DBS

Are there any physical differences from USA saw to AUS saw??

-Daryl

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Ekka

Yes, the Australian model saw leaves you with a very very thin wallet.

.... but jokes aside no.

With larger saws there's differences with the bumper spikes and side covers sometimes depending on where you buy them in the USA coz the east coast guys vs the west coast guys thing goes on.... you know, who's got the biggest bar thing!

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JayD

So your saying we all weren't created equall?

As long as it does the job does it matter?

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shaggs

Nice letter Simon.
Will be interesting to hear the reply....then we can sen one!!!

Therrin

Well, say the client wants the job done quickly, but also wants it to be done properly. If you've got a bigger ..um... bar. you may be able to get things handled quicker. Especially if you've got the power to back up the bar. I think a newer saw might do a better job in this situation... run more efficiently and smoothly. Runnin out of gas half way through the project wouldn't be so great either. Some of them older saws really guzzle fuel and just dont have any "staying power". Runnin out before the job's done is just a serious waste of time....

It's the details sometimes that make for better customer satisfaction ;-)

Therrin

Wait, oh... whoops... were you guys talking about *trees*?

=P

playfordtree

Okay i have had a response from Stihl,
here it is.


There are more holes in this response than swiss cheese!

I will think on it for a day or so then respond.

In the meantime if anyone else can think of good arguements to Stihls response then please post them and i will include them in my next email to Stihl.

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JayD

I think this blokes just taken his boots off, cause something sure smells about this, If they can sell in the US a 200T for $500, Surely they can do the same here, Before our exchange rate just about equalised noone really noticed, A smoke screen so to speak, To the States or to Australia there couldn't be that much differance,...correct me if I'm wrong.

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playfordtree

Your right JayD, all smoke and mirrors.

If Ekka can get a saw freighted here for around $100, Stihl would be able to get them freighted for a lot less.

How much can their holding costs be?
surely it cant be too much per saw.

When he talks about their competitors pricing, what he means in my opinion is "well if they can get away with it so can we!"

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Ekka

What did I say, same ole same ole!

If the USA is retailing 200T's for $500 how much are they buying them wholesale for?

How about this, why cant the Dealer source the saw at wholesale direct from either USA or Germany and tell the Stihl distributors to rack off as they obviously are grossly inefficient? With USA we have a free trade agreement but not with Germany .... so perhaps Germany is preventing "free trade"!

And is it fair to say that there may be possible collusion between Stihl dealers? All having the same price, same specials and not allowed to sell via internet to reduce costs and increase efficiencies?

Keep pushing, push hard, and push these pertinent points.

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TreeCo

I bet as soon as USA saws start showing up in Australia to be repaired that the dealer will have the serial numbers traced to their orgin in the USA......and then directly to the person shipping from the USA.

There is no doubt that Stihl dealers here in the states work together to fix prices.

Ekka

They go hard on them here and it's in the headlines with this Billionaire worth $54Billion dollars being one of the worst cartels yet, they done his ass but not personally just the company!

Pratt headed worst cartel, says judge - National - theage.com.au

Should have jailed his ass!

Oil companies are next for sure.

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a_lopa

My local dealer hates seeing my imported saws...

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Pete

I've been told that some Stihl saws sold in the States have a softer bore than the chrome bores that are sent to Australia which cope better with our hardwoods. Anyone else know anything about this?
Pete