Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race

kauriman · 21st April 2009, 03:22 PM

Check out the pics.

This was carried out by the City Council to stop birds crapping on the cars in the car yard. What a disgrace.

For those outside NZ and Aussie. There was a big car race here in Hamilton last weekend. This was done a couple of weeks ago.

The boys that did the job know better but were threatened with their jobs. I would have walked off, phoned my mates, and started a protest. I didn't find out until after the fact.

One local company did turn the job down.

treevet · 21st April 2009, 03:43 PM

They will probably try to soften public opinion up by calling that "pollarding".

Eric Frei · 21st April 2009, 03:43 PM

I bet the squeeze was on to get that done before the race so they'd get some free advertising.

So now what, birds dont land in topped trees? Are they going to re-top every year or two?

Amazing and disgusting, the home of NZ arboriculture college too!

treekiwi · 21st April 2009, 06:11 PM

Man thats rough, now everyone has to look at them for the rest of the year, couldnt they even drop crotch them??? Council trees thats discusting!!!

kauriman · 21st April 2009, 09:01 PM

They did a reasonable job on them a week before. Took a couple of metres off and they still looked OK (didn't need that either). But obviously it wasn't enough for someone and a week later a whole third came off the top.
There is a new tree manager on the council (a horticulturalist). He was regarded as a "tree Hater" by someone who knew him at his last post in a different city.
The worst thing is it was totally unnecessary of course. I heard just yesterday how Rotorua Council had saved some trees from the bird dropping chop, by putting sprinklers in the canopy. In the evening they turn on the sprinklers and the birds go elsewhere.
I'm writing to the local paper and telling them what i think. Might ruffle some feathers but with a tree manager like this what hope do we have.

Cheers
kauriman

Jeff Darby · 21st April 2009, 10:17 PM

This is uter bullshyte!! Get this idiot out of power!....up them for the rent Kauriman...

this is pure topping.

Eric Frei · 22nd April 2009, 12:35 AM

I just emailed this off, cannot believe the depths of incompetence running rife in the government jobs!

Quote:

From: Treeworld
To: info@hcc.govt.nz
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:33 PM
Subject: Incorrect tree pruning at Hamilton on Global Display

Hi

Just writing to introduce you to our forum www.treeworld.info where we have an active professional tree community online.

The recent unconventional pruning by YOUR COUNCIL has been featured here.

Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race

Please have a read of the thread, and if you like please join and explain the actions ... we're at a loss to figure it out and concerned you have a tree hater employed in an authoritative position on the council making decisions in matters he/she has no idea about (quite obviously by what remains).

Regards
Eric Frei
www.treeworld.info

TrevMcRev · 22nd April 2009, 12:50 AM

Incredible that a council themselves could do that in this day & age.

Here most councils would fine anyone doing that to their own trees on their own property! To treat trees this way is absolute malpractice.

Shame Hamilton Council, shame.

Garry Brockley · 22nd April 2009, 07:57 AM

i have seen that type of lopping before in the uk where an untrained company put ladders up and literally swiped the chainsaw accross the tops of the trees, i can't believe a council would allow this type of work be carried out to such a poor standard. incredible incompetance!!!

Eric Frei · 22nd April 2009, 09:15 AM

Well, it made front page news here.

Tree World News

treevet · 22nd April 2009, 09:47 AM

Tree World News is the story in itself. Too cool for words.

jim1nz · 22nd April 2009, 11:54 AM

Disgrace, lost for words

Drouin Tree Service · 22nd April 2009, 04:25 PM

Unbeleivable really,like theres a powerline there!!

Great news feed Eric

phill ellison · 22nd April 2009, 07:44 PM

thats bloody terrible, someone need a good kick up the a$$

, good on you eric for writing that letter to HCC, hope they do realise that it is showen all around the world and what down right shame that they have done

treevet · 23rd April 2009, 12:18 AM

If you go on another forum called "treehouse" there are droves of them that advocate this and call it pollarding. Get real angry if you challenge them about it. They even take pride in being called hacks if it is in relation to this treatment. Amazing in this day and age.

It is not just this city council guy in the wrong.

Eric Frei · 23rd April 2009, 12:34 AM

You can see the "hacks" spreading their wrath in the name of "food on the table" everywhere lately.... or perhaps you are just noticing it.

I noticed this phenomena ages ago, the UK guys aren't far behind with their trashing of council trees, there's a long running thread about UK tree guys defending their topping practices in the name of "food on the table".

Over at AS Murphy4trees recently also started a thread about the hacks in his area USA, the mentality, and how poor the posts have become on that forum. When "bandwidth and a buck" decide the "ethics" you'll have little but a argument amongst clowns (Forest Gump for example). That was the writing on the wall years ago .... and part of the catalyst for this place today ... motto been "sorting the shit from the clay" since day one, and hacks are part of the shit in that equation.

Go to TB and search "wow arborist ethics in UK" a thread since 2006, same shit different place. Many of these controversial threads which exposed the posters poor attitudes have been hidden and deleted now (many links at TB to the threads elsewhere dead now) ... but the posters remain.

When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is most of those spineless wankers were incapable, then rendering an onslaught onto those of decent ethical standards. Others want cover ups and delete exposing threads trying to control the perceptions of the industry into an delusional wonderland of tree perfections.

kauriman · 28th April 2009, 04:45 PM

There was an article in the Friday Waikato Times that read something like this.

Trees needlessly topped
Bad luck to the red flag wavers? Maybe it was brought upon them by the way one of there sponsors cares or rather doesn’t care for the city or the environment.
I refer to the ash trees on Anglesea St that were needlessly topped two weeks ago. Bird crap was supposedly the issue. However there are other methods of repelling birds from trees without wreaking the appearance or sustainable future of the asset. These trees are now doomed to a future of continued cutting back, if allowed to grow they will likely be a hazard due to weakly attached regrowth.
The fact that this was allowed to happen takes tree care in Hamilton back to the dark ages. Surely sponsorship money, politics and mates in high places had something to do with this. Either that or the people in charge of our city trees have little knowledge of proper tree care.
The trees are now a disgrace to the city. Take a look for yourself.
Shame on all those involved in this ugly incident: the council, the council bureaucrat that ordered the tree work to be carried out, the contractor that accepted the tree butchering. The poor arboricultural practitioners, they were forced to compromise their professional integrity for fear of their jobs.

Was signed by A Harrison (whoever he is). I also heard the same fella talk on community radio on Sunday afternoon about the subject.

Interesting to see if there are any responses.

Have you recieved one from the HCC Ekka?

Eric Frei · 28th April 2009, 07:42 PM

I received nothing.

That was Andy Harrison ... maker of The Harrison Rocket throwbag!

arbornizzle · 29th April 2009, 01:27 AM

Absolutely disgusting, hamilton city trees don't deserve this. Kauri Man, what date was the article in the waikato times. Do you know what company done this, was it the council crew?? Also did this provide a better view of the V8's for the holden dealership.

kauriman · 29th April 2009, 12:44 PM

Hi Arbornizzle

Thanks for your support. Yes it was the council tree crew. They don't normally do this knind of work so it is suspected that they had some significant pollitical presure on them.

The car yard actually isn't on the race track, it is a few blocks away. so no view of track but the topping now reveals their expensive signage to be seen from a greater distance than before.

Cheers
Kauriman.

kauriman · 29th April 2009, 12:47 PM

Sorry. The letter was in the Waikato Times Friday 24th April.

Cheers

kiwi_tree_steve · 29th April 2009, 03:06 PM

Finnanly i had a chance to get out and take a bo at these trees...................

.

. im with you Kauri man, totally unnecessary to have done this work, in my mind the only advantage would have been that the tv helicopter could "see the dealership better", as it didnt make too much difference at street level as the trees had been lifted previously.

as for it being the council doing the work it makes me angry and ashamed to be a Hamilton rate payer

and the guy who made the call to molest these trees..............maby we could top him!!!

steve

Eric Frei · 30th April 2009, 11:20 PM

Who is the FOOL, what is the name of the gross incompetent that ordered this disgusting work!

SACK THE IDIOT!

arbornizzle · 1st May 2009, 02:54 AM

So what can be done about this? Yea sure we can all have a go at the guy who let this happen but is there any formal action we can take. I have emailed the council voicing my concern and all they told me to do is get in touch with the parks and gardens manager, this is the guy who has the say as far as i know.
I was given these details but i think talking to him will achieve very little.
Mr Bill Featherstone
Manager Parks & Gardens Unit.
Hamilton City Council
Private Bag 3010
HAMILTON
3240
Ph 07 838 6607

kauriman · 20th August 2009, 03:25 PM

Short update.

The Waikato Tree Trust (WTT) had a meeting with the HCC street tree people last week about this issue and a couple of other issues.

Basically they defended their actions and denyed any pressure from "people in high places".

They don't believe that street trees are trees they think they are things to manage.

So it may well happen again.

Welcome back to 1970's tree management Hamilton.

TrevMcRev · 20th August 2009, 08:00 PM

Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaaack!

Eric Frei · 20th August 2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kauriman

Short update.

The Waikato Tree Trust (WTT) had a meeting with the HCC street tree people last week about this issue and a couple of other issues.

Basically they defended their actions and denyed any pressure from "people in high places".

They don't believe that street trees are trees they think they are things to manage.

So it may well happen again.

Welcome back to 1970's tree management Hamilton.

I have heard this before ......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

An update.

This is true, and due to threats of being sued by the council officer that rang me for today I wont mention his name.

We'll call him X for the exercise.

Last Tuesday, 24 April at 8.39am X from Brisbane City Council Assets Management rang from number 384071589 and left a message for me to call him back via the call centre 34038888 which I did within the hour. Left a message.

Friday 27 April 11.50am I rang the number that came up in my phone 384071589 and left another message, with a lady, mentioned this was 2nd call back for X.

Tuesday 1 May around 10am I rang 34038888 the main call centre. Now that it has been a week I asked the guy who took the call what the council policy was on call backs ... like another company I worked in it was a 2 hour policy. I also mentioned it was the 3rd call back for this X and 1 week had passed.

11.51am X rang me. X said his call back delays were due to fighting fires (I didn't call the fire dept but the council though). X said the trees were part of council assets and the arborists were happy with the work they'd done.

I mentioned that details were posted on a public forum and no professional arborists were happy with the tree for the location and lack of signage or public awareness.

I stated the tree defied our knowledge and training of suitable habitat management and information was available on this site.

X proceeded to tell me that Brisbane City Council owned the trees and as such could do whatever they liked to them, that they weren't bound by laws, they had total autonomy and the information on this site is SHIT.

I mentioned the information on this site came from many sources including respected universities and colleges as well as professional educated arborists. X said they got their own people and information and could do as they please and that there were just as many people saying they were happy with the tree.

I asked why he was talking to me and not an arborist in the decision making process and if they were so clever and knowledgable why wouldn't they wish to share their grandeur on a forum where this was all documented. X responded that they don't talk in public forums.

I said on any given topics there'll be those for and against, and we wanted to see the reasoning behind their decisions. To that X said they dont have to explain anything to anyone, they own the trees and that's that. To which I responded that they are accountable to the community and Stalin style suppressive govt is history, we are an educated society looking for reasoning.

By now he was huffing and puffing, scoffing and carrying on like a child. I told him I would be putting the details of the conversation on the public forum along with his name and position to which he responded ...
... then abruptly hung up.

11.56am I rang 34038888 and reported the phone call and the threat and the language of X.

X was representing a govt body, can he sue? Can council sue? The BCC call centre records it's phone calls, that's right. The inbound calls from ordinary people, I wonder if they recorded the call between X and I, I sure wish I did. I bet they don't record the outbound calls of their people.

So there we have it, you make your own mind up. It aint over yet, but this isn't a surprise to me.

kauriman · 24th August 2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaaack!

Hi Trev and All.

Sorry for the long silence. And hey that fellow in the middle looks alot like me

v8supercar · 16th July 2010, 01:19 PM

This was absolutely unnecessary. What a tree hater??? He just got this job done for free advertising and no other motives. Total disgrace!!!

21st April 2009, 03:22 PM	#1
kauriman Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 53	Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Check out the pics. This was carried out by the City Council to stop birds crapping on the cars in the car yard. What a disgrace. For those outside NZ and Aussie. There was a big car race here in Hamilton last weekend. This was done a couple of weeks ago. The boys that did the job know better but were threatened with their jobs. I would have walked off, phoned my mates, and started a protest. I didn't find out until after the fact. One local company did turn the job down. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by kauriman; 21st April 2009 at 03:26 PM. Reason: typo

21st April 2009, 03:43 PM	#2
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outsid Holden dealers prior to V8 race They will probably try to soften public opinion up by calling that "pollarding".

21st April 2009, 03:43 PM	#3
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outsid Holden dealers prior to V8 race I bet the squeeze was on to get that done before the race so they'd get some free advertising. So now what, birds dont land in topped trees? Are they going to re-top every year or two? Amazing and disgusting, the home of NZ arboriculture college too! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

21st April 2009, 06:11 PM	#4
treekiwi Certificate in Horticulture (Level 4) + Diploma in Arboriculture (Level 6) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 258	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outsid Holden dealers prior to V8 race Man thats rough, now everyone has to look at them for the rest of the year, couldnt they even drop crotch them??? Council trees thats discusting!!! __________________ www.urbantree.co.nz www.urbantreecare.co.nz

21st April 2009, 09:01 PM	#5
kauriman Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 53	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outsid Holden dealers prior to V8 race They did a reasonable job on them a week before. Took a couple of metres off and they still looked OK (didn't need that either). But obviously it wasn't enough for someone and a week later a whole third came off the top. There is a new tree manager on the council (a horticulturalist). He was regarded as a "tree Hater" by someone who knew him at his last post in a different city. The worst thing is it was totally unnecessary of course. I heard just yesterday how Rotorua Council had saved some trees from the bird dropping chop, by putting sprinklers in the canopy. In the evening they turn on the sprinklers and the birds go elsewhere. I'm writing to the local paper and telling them what i think. Might ruffle some feathers but with a tree manager like this what hope do we have. Cheers kauriman

21st April 2009, 10:17 PM	#6
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outsid Holden dealers prior to V8 race This is uter bullshyte!! Get this idiot out of power!....up them for the rent Kauriman... this is pure topping. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

22nd April 2009, 12:50 AM	#8
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Incredible that a council themselves could do that in this day & age. Here most councils would fine anyone doing that to their own trees on their own property! To treat trees this way is absolute malpractice. Shame Hamilton Council, shame.

22nd April 2009, 07:57 AM	#9
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race i have seen that type of lopping before in the uk where an untrained company put ladders up and literally swiped the chainsaw accross the tops of the trees, i can't believe a council would allow this type of work be carried out to such a poor standard. incredible incompetance!!! __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

22nd April 2009, 09:15 AM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Well, it made front page news here. Tree World News __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

22nd April 2009, 09:47 AM	#11
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Tree World News is the story in itself. Too cool for words.

22nd April 2009, 11:54 AM	#12
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Disgrace, lost for words __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

22nd April 2009, 04:25 PM	#13
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,697	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Unbeleivable really,like theres a powerline there!! Great news feed Eric __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

22nd April 2009, 07:44 PM	#14
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race thats bloody terrible, someone need a good kick up the a$$, good on you eric for writing that letter to HCC, hope they do realise that it is showen all around the world and what down right shame that they have done

23rd April 2009, 12:18 AM	#15
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race If you go on another forum called "treehouse" there are droves of them that advocate this and call it pollarding. Get real angry if you challenge them about it. They even take pride in being called hacks if it is in relation to this treatment. Amazing in this day and age. It is not just this city council guy in the wrong.

23rd April 2009, 12:34 AM	#16
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race You can see the "hacks" spreading their wrath in the name of "food on the table" everywhere lately.... or perhaps you are just noticing it. I noticed this phenomena ages ago, the UK guys aren't far behind with their trashing of council trees, there's a long running thread about UK tree guys defending their topping practices in the name of "food on the table". Over at AS Murphy4trees recently also started a thread about the hacks in his area USA, the mentality, and how poor the posts have become on that forum. When "bandwidth and a buck" decide the "ethics" you'll have little but a argument amongst clowns (Forest Gump for example). That was the writing on the wall years ago .... and part of the catalyst for this place today ... motto been "sorting the shit from the clay" since day one, and hacks are part of the shit in that equation. Go to TB and search "wow arborist ethics in UK" a thread since 2006, same shit different place. Many of these controversial threads which exposed the posters poor attitudes have been hidden and deleted now (many links at TB to the threads elsewhere dead now) ... but the posters remain. When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is most of those spineless wankers were incapable, then rendering an onslaught onto those of decent ethical standards. Others want cover ups and delete exposing threads trying to control the perceptions of the industry into an delusional wonderland of tree perfections. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th April 2009, 04:45 PM	#17
kauriman Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 53	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race There was an article in the Friday Waikato Times that read something like this. Trees needlessly topped Bad luck to the red flag wavers? Maybe it was brought upon them by the way one of there sponsors cares or rather doesn’t care for the city or the environment. I refer to the ash trees on Anglesea St that were needlessly topped two weeks ago. Bird crap was supposedly the issue. However there are other methods of repelling birds from trees without wreaking the appearance or sustainable future of the asset. These trees are now doomed to a future of continued cutting back, if allowed to grow they will likely be a hazard due to weakly attached regrowth. The fact that this was allowed to happen takes tree care in Hamilton back to the dark ages. Surely sponsorship money, politics and mates in high places had something to do with this. Either that or the people in charge of our city trees have little knowledge of proper tree care. The trees are now a disgrace to the city. Take a look for yourself. Shame on all those involved in this ugly incident: the council, the council bureaucrat that ordered the tree work to be carried out, the contractor that accepted the tree butchering. The poor arboricultural practitioners, they were forced to compromise their professional integrity for fear of their jobs. Was signed by A Harrison (whoever he is). I also heard the same fella talk on community radio on Sunday afternoon about the subject. Interesting to see if there are any responses. Have you recieved one from the HCC Ekka? Last edited by kauriman; 28th April 2009 at 04:47 PM. Reason: typo

28th April 2009, 07:42 PM	#18
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race I received nothing. That was Andy Harrison ... maker of The Harrison Rocket throwbag! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

29th April 2009, 01:27 AM	#19
arbornizzle Sappling Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Uk & Europe Posts: 7	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Absolutely disgusting, hamilton city trees don't deserve this. Kauri Man, what date was the article in the waikato times. Do you know what company done this, was it the council crew?? Also did this provide a better view of the V8's for the holden dealership.

29th April 2009, 12:44 PM	#20
kauriman Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 53	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Hi Arbornizzle Thanks for your support. Yes it was the council tree crew. They don't normally do this knind of work so it is suspected that they had some significant pollitical presure on them. The car yard actually isn't on the race track, it is a few blocks away. so no view of track but the topping now reveals their expensive signage to be seen from a greater distance than before. Cheers Kauriman.

29th April 2009, 12:47 PM	#21
kauriman Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 53	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Sorry. The letter was in the Waikato Times Friday 24th April. Cheers

29th April 2009, 03:06 PM	#22
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Finnanly i had a chance to get out and take a bo at these trees..................... im with you Kauri man, totally unnecessary to have done this work, in my mind the only advantage would have been that the tv helicopter could "see the dealership better", as it didnt make too much difference at street level as the trees had been lifted previously. as for it being the council doing the work it makes me angry and ashamed to be a Hamilton rate payer and the guy who made the call to molest these trees..............maby we could top him!!! steve __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

30th April 2009, 11:20 PM	#23
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Who is the FOOL, what is the name of the gross incompetent that ordered this disgusting work! SACK THE IDIOT! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

1st May 2009, 02:54 AM	#24
arbornizzle Sappling Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Uk & Europe Posts: 7	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race So what can be done about this? Yea sure we can all have a go at the guy who let this happen but is there any formal action we can take. I have emailed the council voicing my concern and all they told me to do is get in touch with the parks and gardens manager, this is the guy who has the say as far as i know. I was given these details but i think talking to him will achieve very little. Mr Bill Featherstone Manager Parks & Gardens Unit. Hamilton City Council Private Bag 3010 HAMILTON 3240 Ph 07 838 6607

20th August 2009, 03:25 PM	#25
kauriman Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 53	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Short update. The Waikato Tree Trust (WTT) had a meeting with the HCC street tree people last week about this issue and a couple of other issues. Basically they defended their actions and denyed any pressure from "people in high places". They don't believe that street trees are trees they think they are things to manage. So it may well happen again. Welcome back to 1970's tree management Hamilton.

20th August 2009, 08:00 PM	#26
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaaack! Attached Thumbnails

16th July 2010, 01:19 PM	#29
v8supercar I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: India Posts: 1	Re: Hamilton City Council Top St trees outside Holden dealers prior to V8 race This was absolutely unnecessary. What a tree hater??? He just got this job done for free advertising and no other motives. Total disgrace!!! Last edited by Jeff Darby; 16th July 2010 at 02:37 PM. Reason: no links without admins approval

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