Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done...

azrael · 23rd January 2008, 01:57 PM

Well.....this type of garbage is just as bad...really stupid landscaping

It's also a car-park. I worry that people would think this was OK to do to trees.

The trees are ALL gone NOW....of course!

D Mc · 23rd January 2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quercus

I'll get more pics for you today... no power lines, no traffic problems, no things in immediate surroundings, no nothing... just pure hack-work by the city workers. When I e-mailed them they said that I wasn't a pro and knew nothing about it!!!!

The thought of 200 or so of those trees is so appalling we have no words.

Good for you for trying to confront the City. Keep trying. We ran into a situation with one of our cities where they were butchering tree roots during a sidewalk replacement project. Their initial response to our telephone calls was that the "concrete guy said it wouldn't hurt the trees".

We kept at it, phone calls, meetings, confrontations, presentations to the City Council, more phone calls, meetings, confrontations. We finally got the project halted and the job specs changed. (We even bought them a book and took it in for them to read.)

It can be frustrating but someone has to do it or they will never change their thought patterns.

S and D Mc

Sean Freeman · 23rd January 2008, 08:35 PM

D Mc your experience with the local authority in your area is one well worth retelling again and again persistance pays off...you know you're right we all know you're right, its just the time lag to convince these institutional commissars that can wear you down...your appraoch and even going to the length of providing them with published literature to help get the message across is fabulous.

pomme · 24th January 2008, 12:32 AM

the photos show the result but not the problem, these are many, on the local authority front you often find the tree officer has little or no real practical skills, also the young guns who tend to have the later knowlage are locked into a heirachy system where their ideas are nullified by senior collegues (we ve done it this way for years). the insurance angle is also a problem in all sectors, structual engineers putting specs on trees,home owners who want to protect their own trees are often forced to either hack or fell trees by their own insurance company when there is a subsidence claim when the trees are not really a major factor. L.A. insurance companies overriding officers advice. Heath and Safety (urrrggg) these b'stards don t listen to anyone, they have no qualifications in most of the things they poke their noses into (cut it s top off to make it safer).Poor planing. Inheritance, we in Europe are often called to work on previously hacked trees from an era when topping was considered to be best practice.The list goes on and on and...........................

That s my rant for today

arbdog · 25th January 2008, 03:33 AM

It makes you mad looking those pictures, the trees in this town are pruned correctly apart from previous hacking from many years ago. I gotta get a camera and show you Rugby, England. A place with the largest and most maturist trees round here and also a topped/hacked tree every 20 ft.

ronnyb · 25th January 2008, 05:14 PM

Quercus- I didn't realize that Belgium had such a large Hispanic population.

That's really terrible, but goes on around the world.

quercus · 26th January 2008, 03:27 AM

We don't have a large Hispanic population over here. Why would you think something like that? Because of something I said?

Done it · 26th January 2008, 04:09 AM

He was joking, they are illegal, cheap workers.

quercus · 26th January 2008, 04:37 AM

I took these yesterday.... I made them especially for Ekka, because he's always talkin' about palms beying shit sticks... Because they are like a large pole with a few leaves on them and therefore it makes them visually unattractive. Well that being said, I think the belgians would really love them. Why? We don't have 'em...BUT WE SURE AS HELL WOULD LIKE TO CREATE THEM!!!!
species: Araucaria Araucana "belgica" aka belgian palms....

Done it · 26th January 2008, 05:23 AM

OK, now you're really getting to me, what was that thing originally?
I have a Norfolk Island pine about that height, top looks a bit like it.

ronnyb · 26th January 2008, 08:05 AM

The pictures you post look exactly like the work that the Hispanic tree workers normally produce.

quercus · 27th January 2008, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Done it

OK, now you're really getting to me, what was that thing originally? .

Normally it should look like this...
http://blogimages.seniorennet.be/wim...5a0b58f0c0.jpg

Species is Araucaria Araucana...

Done it · 27th January 2008, 04:57 AM

I thought it was familiar, same family. a.heterophyll / Norfolk Island Pine & a.budwillii / Bunya Pine, I just can't believe someone would do that.

bigshea13 · 27th January 2008, 06:51 AM

you probably need a permit but id be more than happy to send you a sling shot and a LARGE bag of rocks to launch at those idiots.

TREE-SURFER · 27th January 2008, 12:32 PM

Quercus, have you seen this thread for hacks?

"Isle of Man Tree Surgery Club"

Therrin · 3rd February 2008, 04:41 PM

Was driving through a neighborhood after removing a pine that fell across the driveway in the storm, saw this and couldn't resist taking the picture.

The owner was just getting out of her car when I was taking the picture, she came over and was like, "what're you doing??" I said I was taking a picture of her tree to show an example of what NOT to do when "pruning" (if you can call it that) and she responded that "It looks just fine, she likes it, and I needed to leave". So I snapped a picture and left!

23rd January 2008, 08:35 PM	#28 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... D Mc your experience with the local authority in your area is one well worth retelling again and again persistance pays off...you know you're right we all know you're right, its just the time lag to convince these institutional commissars that can wear you down...your appraoch and even going to the length of providing them with published literature to help get the message across is fabulous. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

24th January 2008, 12:32 AM	#29 (permalink)
pomme Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 220	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... the photos show the result but not the problem, these are many, on the local authority front you often find the tree officer has little or no real practical skills, also the young guns who tend to have the later knowlage are locked into a heirachy system where their ideas are nullified by senior collegues (we ve done it this way for years). the insurance angle is also a problem in all sectors, structual engineers putting specs on trees,home owners who want to protect their own trees are often forced to either hack or fell trees by their own insurance company when there is a subsidence claim when the trees are not really a major factor. L.A. insurance companies overriding officers advice. Heath and Safety (urrrggg) these b'stards don t listen to anyone, they have no qualifications in most of the things they poke their noses into (cut it s top off to make it safer).Poor planing. Inheritance, we in Europe are often called to work on previously hacked trees from an era when topping was considered to be best practice.The list goes on and on and........................... That s my rant for today

25th January 2008, 03:33 AM	#30 (permalink)
arbdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 101	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... It makes you mad looking those pictures, the trees in this town are pruned correctly apart from previous hacking from many years ago. I gotta get a camera and show you Rugby, England. A place with the largest and most maturist trees round here and also a topped/hacked tree every 20 ft.

25th January 2008, 05:14 PM	#31 (permalink)
ronnyb Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 64	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... Quercus- I didn't realize that Belgium had such a large Hispanic population. That's really terrible, but goes on around the world.

26th January 2008, 03:27 AM	#32 (permalink)
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 428	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... We don't have a large Hispanic population over here. Why would you think something like that? Because of something I said?

26th January 2008, 04:09 AM	#33 (permalink)
Done it Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 238	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... He was joking, they are illegal, cheap workers.

26th January 2008, 05:23 AM	#35 (permalink)
Done it Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 238	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... OK, now you're really getting to me, what was that thing originally? I have a Norfolk Island pine about that height, top looks a bit like it.

26th January 2008, 08:05 AM	#36 (permalink)
ronnyb Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 64	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... The pictures you post look exactly like the work that the Hispanic tree workers normally produce.

27th January 2008, 06:51 AM	#39 (permalink)
bigshea13 Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 378	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... you probably need a permit but id be more than happy to send you a sling shot and a LARGE bag of rocks to launch at those idiots.

27th January 2008, 12:32 PM	#40 (permalink)
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 410	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... Quercus, have you seen this thread for hacks? "Isle of Man Tree Surgery Club" __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work Andy@Aerial-Arborist.co.uk What experts say about TOPPING

3rd February 2008, 04:41 PM	#41 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: Hacks in your area? Let's see what they've done... Was driving through a neighborhood after removing a pine that fell across the driveway in the storm, saw this and couldn't resist taking the picture. The owner was just getting out of her car when I was taking the picture, she came over and was like, "what're you doing??" I said I was taking a picture of her tree to show an example of what NOT to do when "pruning" (if you can call it that) and she responded that "It looks just fine, she likes it, and I needed to leave". So I snapped a picture and left! __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703