Is this guy serious? (advert)

Rob Chace

I just saw this guys advert.
Is he taking the piss or ??? - I also noticed some/all of the pictures are not his.....

CHEAPA PRICE TREE LOPPING SERVICES - New South Wales contractor, remodelling services - Gumtree New South Wales Free Classifieds

dingo

Whats with the santa claus jokery-it's hardly funny. You would have to be an idiot to fall for his boasty gimmicky sales spiel. There are guys offering free kebabs with tree work on gumtree also... I suppose the customer has to decide on what he would prefer a kebab or a pile of chip before deciding which tree guy to call.

Apocalypsse

I swear I've seen those trucks in his pictures before, I think from the Arborage businesses for sale section.

/me waits for the day this industry is regulated to weed out the fail.

Darrell Mcleod

here is the ute

George Valentine

Hahahha, I reckon this guy is really taking the piss out of everyone, particularly as he is a forum member and now a Tree Association member also...!

He knows exactly what the "guys" reaction would be and he also knows that, is a lot of people out there scared to death to call some of the more established tree working business, in their mind and probably correct so, in many cases, too damn expensive...!

People/potential customers, are taking easily by these type offers, advertising tricks or whatever you want to call it, they work...!

Is even possible that this guy, is prepare to brake it even just to get most of the jobs and establish himself that way, the question is, how long can he do it for...???
While is nothing illegal about his add or business methodologies, it will be interesting to see what people say about his services...!

Good luck to him...!

Cheers
George

Rob Chace

not illegal, but frewtty misleading using pic that arent of your work, in an advertisment intended to sell/promote your work.

But yeah i was in stitches reading it, re-dik-u-loss!!

Tony Knight

What no steak knives?? Either off his meds or abusing them either way I wouldn't be getting him to do any work. He's a fraud, only a fraud needs to use others work to advertise. If he's as good as he say's then he shouldn't need to advertise in gumtree a?

Now can I interest anyone in this weeks special? Noise, 2 stroke fumes and saw dust and yes it's free to you with any job (min charge $10,000.00) plus extras.

Cheers

Tony

dingo

I don't think the non genuine images are the issue really.That to me indicates a less than professional approach but only in terms of marketing- I wouldn't write off the quality of their work based on that.

Jeff Darby

He might be a member of a "Tree Association" but not the Australian Tree Association read all that is in front of you and comprehend it properly please.

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Tony Knight

I appreciate what your saying but maketing ones self or business is the window for clients, honesty, quality and professionalism is whats require by the client and industry not a song and dance with someone elses work on display. Just my opinion.




Tony

Eric Frei

So does some-one know what member name this guy has here? If so post it up.

Also here's some of his other ads

santa tree lopping services - Sydney Region business services - Gumtree Sydney Region Free Classifieds

cheapa price cheapa price cheapa price tree services - Sydney Region business services - Gumtree Sydney Region Free Classifieds

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George Valentine

OK Jeff Darby, so could you please tell me where I find another Tree Association in Australia apart from the recently formed "Australian Tree Association"...???

At the time I wrote my comment, I was only aware of one Tree Association in Australia, that is not either under Aboriginal Guide lines or Government based. The other Tree Associations that I'm aware of, are in the USA so, I assumed that this fellow was referring to the only one I know.

I quick Google search after your comment, has gave me no other Tree Association in Australia that this bloke could belong to, and If for some particular reason you know that he is not a member of the Australian Tree Association but some other Tree Association that I'm not aware of, I would be most grateful if you could point me out in the right direction...!

Thank you.

Cheers
George

Done it

Here's one to start with, Tree Contractors Association. TCAA.

Done it

Trading Post. Tree lopping business for sale Yeppoon, Qld, listed now.

Jeff Darby

Here's another one for you that he could be a member of...

Australian Tea Tree Association



It's just the assumption that he was a member before anything was researched and proven that he did belong to ATA. Remember shyte sticks.

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Eric Frei

So how in this instance will it help? Will it have controls over advertising?

What if this person is already qualified?

I have debated this erroneous thinking long enough and what I see is simple:- The screaming for regulation comes from within the industry with the primary motive of reducing the volume competitors.

That is it, simple short and sweet.

Now on the other hand if you are qualified and have some sound business acumen you should have no trouble at all competing with this.

And for the person who markets like this be aware that you reap what you sow.

Does David Jones, Myers etc try to prevent cheaper discount stores from opening? They have to compete too, so stop ya belly aching BS and be a business man not a mouse.

I see this regulation mentality predominantly coming from the southern states which are over regulated Victorian thinkers anyway, wake up fellas, the govt is into deregulation and self compliance. This is tree work not rocket science and the consumer benefits from over supply and competition.

Ask yourself, have I done all that I can to differentiate my business from my competitors and gain marketing advantages to suit? Have I positioned my business better than my competitors? Or am I just doing the same ole and belly aching about it?

Gee, yearning for a govt to come and fix something that is not broken is pathetic.

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Apocalypsse

Yes regulation drops the number of competitors but assuming thats the primary motive behind wanting some form of regulation is ignorant, not all of us are concerned about competition, what about the safety side of?. Theres people out there without qualifications, equipment that shouldn't be in service and treating staff like slaves; how do we get these businesses/employers into line or out of the industry? The closest thing we have to keep businesses in line are the more big time contracts with requirements for things complying with OHS standards, keeping staff trained, keeping machines in running order, etc. I want to see employees not being taken advantage of and being made to work in substandard conditions with people who are essentially slave drivers trying to save 5 cents around every corner.

Eric Frei

It is the primary motive, and to hide behind the others is a joke. Why?

Because the regulations are already there.

There is wage and benefit minimums set.

There is OHS regulation set.

Qualifications, I would value experience more than a piece of paper from a ticket collector. Fortunately even OHS regulation recognises experience and the mandate for QAF units is not totally enforced. How many people get RPL because they know the job, have the experience then transfer that into a qualification? Many, I am one but to suggest that the day before I got that qualification I was unqualified and unsuitable is IGNORNANT and typical of those wanting red tape introduced to something that is not broken.

Staff can walk anytime, they are not forced to stay. They can report employers, they have the power already. So does the consumer.

So once again, just like the many other posts of mine, there is not a valid argument for licensing and regulation. what there is, is a lack of adherence and checking which I assure you happens in other industries and there is simply insufficient resources to check every business.

Then you look at the cost to administer vs the benefit (accidents, injuries and customer rip offs). It wont stack up frankly.

It is totally different to a person getting a 25 year mortgage to buy a house for $1/2million and have a house that is structurally unsound. It is totally different to an electrician that has to connect to something larger and comply, similar to plumbers.

Your reaction to a poor advert is regulation, that is a joke. But you are in Victoria so it's likely that victorian mindset, over regulated and over governed.

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