to fell or not to fell

treestyle · 10th July 2007, 02:53 AM

have a job coming up with an ironbark only 200-350mm DBH, it's on a near 45 degree lean. It's leaning over an expsensive mechanical gate (which can't be removed by your average bloke) and brick pillar, with the gate open due to the position of the tree i probaly have just enough room to squeeze her down. BUT if it goes wrong then disaster........no other trees around to rig off. either fell or get a small tower in....for 15 mins work at the price for 2hrs hire...........

nah man i'm gonna fell her....best not to rush into these things though.......not happening till next weekend..i'll have to get some photos....she'll be tight.

Ekka · 10th July 2007, 02:55 AM

Side rope adjusted gun.

Have you got room to side rope it?

Have you seen my video, you must adjust the gun and side rope at 90 degrees to the adjusted gun or she'll bust out and take out the gate

treestyle · 10th July 2007, 03:03 AM

tight space, fences, driveway and palm trees. the tree is leaning almost exaclty where she needs to go. Not sure how i could use a side rope to my advantage?

haven't seen your vid......thanks

Sean Freeman · 10th July 2007, 03:06 AM

Assuming can't be climbed and pieced down, I'd agree with Ekka view the vid on the adjusted gun technique, use a control line good quality static line..no stretch with wedges, don't rush any part of the fell.

Ekka · 10th July 2007, 03:08 AM

Well, that's easier then.

Dont get caught with a barber chair when doing your back cut.

Biggest problem might be it rolling or moving once it's hit the deck, foams!

treestyle · 10th July 2007, 03:09 AM

yeah no rushing.....where abouts can i views Ekka's Vid?

also not sure yet if i should do a release cut coz of the lean......only a small DBH though.

Thanks....

Ekka · 10th July 2007, 03:10 AM

Here

Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection

Sean Freeman · 10th July 2007, 03:17 AM

There's some basic info here that you may find useful, it isn't everything you need to know, its the basics, with some reasonable diagrams on the bore cut for trees leaning in the direction of the fall.

GUIDELINES FOR PROPER TREE FELLING.doc

treestyle · 10th July 2007, 03:20 AM

thanks Ekka....good stuff. with mine i will be felling the way the leans going. your right though, when she hits the deck she's gonna roll.

TrevMcRev · 10th July 2007, 04:32 AM

Good advice above, foam padding or old tyres to protect it rolling sideways into the gate or pillar. On steep ground tying the butt to the stump as though you were rigging it can help too!

treestyle · 21st July 2007, 02:23 AM

did this job today. no photos.....man i gotta get a camera! got an old schoolie filmer but need a digi. had bout half meter where i had to put it!.....no rope coz she was leaning way that way.....only shallow skarf but i had a sloping top and bottom cut so it'd stay open through out the entire fall. checked it and then checked it again. a mil off here and there. then nice and slow with the back cut.. i kept cutting as it started to go and i think i steered it a little by taking more off one side of the backcut as it was falling....

just another day i suppose.

Ekka · 21st July 2007, 04:06 AM

Good stuff, didn't roll?

I went up to Caloundra today and banged down a few trees.

Got a video of a big paperbark going over but had to rush rush .... under quoted! (not me, the bloke I worked for, he did it to match a price and get the job)

treestyle · 24th July 2007, 02:06 AM

no rolling, it was probaly only 200mm. the trunk was nice and straight despite being on a huge lean. not a lot of foliage either. i must have looked at it for half an hour being going ahead with it. bit risky but i didn't rush. one of them jobs where i had to call on all my experience as limited as it may be.

10th July 2007, 02:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	to fell or not to fell have a job coming up with an ironbark only 200-350mm DBH, it's on a near 45 degree lean. It's leaning over an expsensive mechanical gate (which can't be removed by your average bloke) and brick pillar, with the gate open due to the position of the tree i probaly have just enough room to squeeze her down. BUT if it goes wrong then disaster........no other trees around to rig off. either fell or get a small tower in....for 15 mins work at the price for 2hrs hire........... nah man i'm gonna fell her....best not to rush into these things though.......not happening till next weekend..i'll have to get some photos....she'll be tight.

10th July 2007, 02:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,734	Side rope adjusted gun. Have you got room to side rope it? Have you seen my video, you must adjust the gun and side rope at 90 degrees to the adjusted gun or she'll bust out and take out the gate __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory .... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

10th July 2007, 03:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,868	Assuming can't be climbed and pieced down, I'd agree with Ekka view the vid on the adjusted gun technique, use a control line good quality static line..no stretch with wedges, don't rush any part of the fell. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

10th July 2007, 03:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,734	Well, that's easier then. Dont get caught with a barber chair when doing your back cut. Biggest problem might be it rolling or moving once it's hit the deck, foams! __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory .... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

10th July 2007, 03:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,734	Here Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory .... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

10th July 2007, 03:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	tight space, fences, driveway and palm trees. the tree is leaning almost exaclty where she needs to go. Not sure how i could use a side rope to my advantage? haven't seen your vid......thanks

10th July 2007, 03:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	yeah no rushing.....where abouts can i views Ekka's Vid? also not sure yet if i should do a release cut coz of the lean......only a small DBH though. Thanks....

10th July 2007, 03:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,868	There's some basic info here that you may find useful, it isn't everything you need to know, its the basics, with some reasonable diagrams on the bore cut for trees leaning in the direction of the fall. GUIDELINES FOR PROPER TREE FELLING.doc __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

10th July 2007, 03:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	thanks Ekka....good stuff. with mine i will be felling the way the leans going. your right though, when she hits the deck she's gonna roll.

10th July 2007, 04:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 973	Good advice above, foam padding or old tyres to protect it rolling sideways into the gate or pillar. On steep ground tying the butt to the stump as though you were rigging it can help too! __________________ Total Tree Care - Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal www.treegear.com.au - Australia's Best Value Arborist Supplies

21st July 2007, 02:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	did this job today. no photos.....man i gotta get a camera! got an old schoolie filmer but need a digi. had bout half meter where i had to put it!.....no rope coz she was leaning way that way.....only shallow skarf but i had a sloping top and bottom cut so it'd stay open through out the entire fall. checked it and then checked it again. a mil off here and there. then nice and slow with the back cut.. i kept cutting as it started to go and i think i steered it a little by taking more off one side of the backcut as it was falling.... just another day i suppose.

21st July 2007, 04:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,734	Good stuff, didn't roll? I went up to Caloundra today and banged down a few trees. Got a video of a big paperbark going over but had to rush rush .... under quoted! (not me, the bloke I worked for, he did it to match a price and get the job) __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory .... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

24th July 2007, 02:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	no rolling, it was probaly only 200mm. the trunk was nice and straight despite being on a huge lean. not a lot of foliage either. i must have looked at it for half an hour being going ahead with it. bit risky but i didn't rush. one of them jobs where i had to call on all my experience as limited as it may be.

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