Ethical issue, would you cut these?

Ekka · 18th September 2007, 02:51 AM

A series of pics to show you the problem. Pic 2 shows the shrubs we're focusing on.

Her choices in order of preference are.

1/ Removal/stump grind

2/ Retop/pollard

3/ Hedge trim level with top of fence

Lady wants tree work done including hedging, "pollarding" all around the house.

On the footpath there's a row of shrubs, in the past they get whacked which you can see. Now the shrubs served a purpose till she got a colour bond fence.

So, technically these are council trees.

What would you do? You have 4 choices to I suppose.

1/ Removal/stump grind

2/ Retop/pollard

3/ Hedge trim level with top of fence

4/ Do nothing coz it's council shrubs

a_lopa · 18th September 2007, 03:43 AM

Being council id pass the job up,otherwise....wham bam thankyou mam!

TreeCo · 18th September 2007, 04:03 AM

2/ Retop/pollard

Of course I don't know how the Counsil fits into the equation. Those trees looked pretty well wrecked from previous butchering.

pomme · 18th September 2007, 11:07 AM

i d speak to the council to see if they had any objection to the resident having the work done. fell and grind would be my punt

Quintrex · 19th September 2007, 01:07 AM

I'm with Pomme, seek council approval to remove and relace with something more suitable and maintain replacements correctly.

fatkoala · 19th September 2007, 03:20 AM

Council trees,maybe but they didn't plant them, so rather than ring the council and have to waite three months and countless phone calls for a decision, cut and grind,

Ekka · 19th September 2007, 01:05 PM

Here's the council's answer.

Dear Mr Frei

Thank you for submitting your request to Brisbane City Council regarding Tree maintenance / Removal of trees.

The Brisbane City Council is the only authority that can remove street trees. It is an offence under Council Local Laws for an unauthorised person to remove street trees.

I have forwarded a service request regarding your enquiry to the work unit responsible for street tree removal. The service request reference number is 1196177.

Council will not remove healthy trees unless they are causing damage to property/services or creating a hazard that cannot be fixed using other methods. A Council representative will inspect within 15 working days and then assess the situation depending upon the reasons given.

If you have any further Brisbane City Council enquiries, please access the Contact Information page available from the Home Page at Home - Brisbane City Council or phone our 24 hour Contact Centre on (07) 3403 8888.

Yours faithfully,

Robert
Customer Contact Centre
Officer Code: sccc50

TrevMcRev · 20th September 2007, 03:41 AM

Is the fence the actual boundary?

Sometimes they get put up within the boundary and could mean that although the trees are outside the fence they may not actually be on council land.

Ekka · 20th September 2007, 05:07 AM

Yeah, fence is bang on the boundary.

Previous owners prior to fence planted them shrubs ... is a bus stop just there.

So, you cant prune the trees but you must cut the lawn.

treefeller · 20th September 2007, 08:45 AM

Over here if its on council property we tend to let them deal with it or submit an order to undertake the work. If the prev owner planted the shrubs then they are hers to deal with as she pleases, providing she can prove it

JohN Dee · 27th September 2007, 04:52 AM

Jebus... Put em' outta their misery. Cut n grind n replace....

But it seems if the work can be done, council is gunna do it... What a way to burst your bubble... And you can sure aswell bet that if the council won't do it, and if you wont do it with out their permission then they'll get the first hacks they can, to do it...

I know down here if you remove a street tree, the fine starts at $600 and rises...

Ekka · 14th October 2007, 01:17 AM

BCC have advised that they will remove and stump grind.

View Poll Results: What would you do?
Removal/stump grind	2	33.33%
Retop/pollard	0	0%
Hedge trim level with top of fence	0	0%
Do nothing coz it's council shrubs	4	66.67%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

18th September 2007, 03:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 877	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Being council id pass the job up,otherwise....wham bam thankyou mam! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

18th September 2007, 04:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 259	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? 2/ Retop/pollard Of course I don't know how the Counsil fits into the equation. Those trees looked pretty well wrecked from previous butchering.

18th September 2007, 11:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
pomme Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 220	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? i d speak to the council to see if they had any objection to the resident having the work done. fell and grind would be my punt

19th September 2007, 01:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 464	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? I'm with Pomme, seek council approval to remove and relace with something more suitable and maintain replacements correctly.

19th September 2007, 03:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
fatkoala Sappling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mildura Posts: 27	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Council trees,maybe but they didn't plant them, so rather than ring the council and have to waite three months and countless phone calls for a decision, cut and grind,

19th September 2007, 01:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Here's the council's answer. Dear Mr Frei Thank you for submitting your request to Brisbane City Council regarding Tree maintenance / Removal of trees. The Brisbane City Council is the only authority that can remove street trees. It is an offence under Council Local Laws for an unauthorised person to remove street trees. I have forwarded a service request regarding your enquiry to the work unit responsible for street tree removal. The service request reference number is 1196177. Council will not remove healthy trees unless they are causing damage to property/services or creating a hazard that cannot be fixed using other methods. A Council representative will inspect within 15 working days and then assess the situation depending upon the reasons given. If you have any further Brisbane City Council enquiries, please access the Contact Information page available from the Home Page at Home - Brisbane City Council or phone our 24 hour Contact Centre on (07) 3403 8888. Yours faithfully, Robert Customer Contact Centre Officer Code: sccc50 __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

20th September 2007, 03:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 734	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Is the fence the actual boundary? Sometimes they get put up within the boundary and could mean that although the trees are outside the fence they may not actually be on council land. __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

20th September 2007, 05:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Yeah, fence is bang on the boundary. Previous owners prior to fence planted them shrubs ... is a bus stop just there. So, you cant prune the trees but you must cut the lawn. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

20th September 2007, 08:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
treefeller Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cheshunt Posts: 86	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Over here if its on council property we tend to let them deal with it or submit an order to undertake the work. If the prev owner planted the shrubs then they are hers to deal with as she pleases, providing she can prove it __________________ Copper Beech Tree Works Hertfordshire www.copperbeechtreeworks.sampasite.com

27th September 2007, 04:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 751	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? Jebus... Put em' outta their misery. Cut n grind n replace.... But it seems if the work can be done, council is gunna do it... What a way to burst your bubble... And you can sure aswell bet that if the council won't do it, and if you wont do it with out their permission then they'll get the first hacks they can, to do it... I know down here if you remove a street tree, the fine starts at $600 and rises... __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

14th October 2007, 01:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Ethical issue, would you cut these? BCC have advised that they will remove and stump grind. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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