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Old 16th April 2008, 07:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Emerald Ash Borer| New Treatment 99% Effective

New treatment shows great success thwarting emerald ash borer - Michigan News, Updates, Photos & Video | Detroit, Lansing - MLive.com


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"This is as close to a silver bullet as possible," said Jim Bowes, spokesman for Michigan's emerald-ash-borer programs.

There is a catch: It must be injected into tree trunks by a certified arborist. Sorry, weekend warriors. Expect to pay about $200 to treat an ash tree with a 16-inch diameter.

The timing is certainly fortuitous. Trees can be injected from late April through June both preventively and to treat established infestations.
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Old 16th April 2008, 07:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 17th April 2008, 07:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is great news as long as you feel inclined to shell out 200$ per tree (rent-like) per (I think) 2 year period. This injection is sold through just one company and this seems curious. They stand to make a fortune with the exclusivity if claims are true. There is VERY little research on this chemical treatment, I believe off the top of my head is called Enemectin (sp?). Keep in mind, that if treatment is halted at any time in an infestation area, there is a 100 % chance at that time of infestation and death. There are no hopes for eradication in surrounding, untreated trees in other areas and woods. As populations build and ash are consumed and killed these huge masses of EAB will be lying in wait for any tree that passes a year of treatment just like an NFL football team sitting around a pizza box with just one piece remaining.

This also is not a viable choice for a town full (usually over 20% of all trees) of ash bcs of cost could easily go to tens of thousands of dollars to hundreds of thousands.

I have a shout in to my e mail friend PHD at the forefront of the EAB research about this news that just broke big on television last on 5 pm news. I plan to order this equipment if favorable reply. This chem has been chatted up for a year or so but environmental damage potential caused it to fade from the limelight. Looks like the manufacturer just struck up this deal at the last second with this company to use it's injection system that will keep it safely contained as a systemic.

I might also that claims of 100% guarantee of success that are being barked by many regarding treatment is said to just mean that if tree dies then they will refund the cost of the treatment.

Research is so thin on this new topic that, for example, a huge bustling office at the EAB Hq. has turned into just one person in there answering the phone.
Lack of success, huge expenditures, and a boggling future are some reasons.

The researcher I speak with said our state is projected to be covered with infestation in approximately 15 years or less.

Spend or replace......the only 2 options.
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Old 17th April 2008, 08:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I worked for the owner and inventor of arborjet and we used with great success on Hemlock woolly adelgid. Not familiar with the chemical they are using for EAB but I know that the trials are extensive before they can be put through the arborjet. All in all in my opinion it is the best and least invasive systemic injection on the market. I understand your reservations TV though it seems steep the cost of application. Is that the cost of chemicals to the applicator or the client??

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Old 17th April 2008, 09:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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burn em out. sucks right now but good for future generations.
they need to mate to lay eggs. they mate after and as they feed on the foliage. do you think the ash could withstand 1season without leaves....just to keep the eab from moving in?why stay if theres no food. if they stay the tree dies. without its foliage for one season at least it stands a chance....right? or wrong? ive seen tent catipillar epidemics where they clean the entire forest of foliage for the entire summer and the trees survived for the most part. im not talking about a few crawlies. there were so many the roads were slick and you couldnt go in the woods because it was like a giant cobb web.
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Old 18th April 2008, 12:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I worked for the owner and inventor of arborjet and we used with great success on Hemlock woolly adelgid. Not familiar with the chemical they are using but I know that the trials are extensive before they can be put through the arborjet. All in all in my opinion it is the best and least invasive systemic injection on the market. I understand your reservations TV though it seems steep the cost of application. Is that the cost of chemicals to the applicator or the client??
It is the cost to the client. It likely will go down when newness wears out. It is just the utter lack of hope of eradication and the massive amount of "host bodies" to perpetuate the infestation. I can see the key tree in the landscape deserving of this investment or the client that has no worries whatsoever with spending, but when a client (which means, I think, you as a service help in the best investment of their dollars) it is often best to eliminate the source and start anew.

As for "city work" city trees, that is a no brainer, start over with a ( ) year plan.
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Old 18th April 2008, 12:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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burn em out. sucks right now but good for future generations.
they need to mate to lay eggs. they mate after and as they feed on the foliage. do you think the ash could withstand 1season without leaves....just to keep the eab from moving in?why stay if theres no food. if they stay the tree dies. without its foliage for one season at least it stands a chance....right? or wrong? ive seen tent catipillar epidemics where they clean the entire forest of foliage for the entire summer and the trees survived for the most part. im not talking about a few crawlies. there were so many the roads were slick and you couldnt go in the woods because it was like a giant cobb web.
The foliar feeding is a non issue. The damage is done as larvae feed on the cambium (predominantly the xylem) and the tree starves to death. They have to be treated with a systemic.
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Tree Microinjection, Tree Injection, Trunk Injection, Tree Pest Control Specialists – Arborjet Inc.

Sold under the name "treeage" as a take off on "triage"- Prioritizing patients on injuries.....
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Old 18th April 2008, 11:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I ran the ingredients through a search for use in Canada. Nothing. I then ran the product name (Tree-age) and here is what I found!

#1 Product Information
Registration Number : 19531
Product Name : SEVIN BRAND XLR PLUS CARBARYL INSECTICIDE
Registrant Name : BAYER CROPSCIENCE INC.*
Registration Status : REGISTERED
Date of First Registration : 1989-04-14
Last Sale by Registrant :
Last Sale by Retail :
Expiry Date of Registration : 2012-12-31
Marketing Type : COMMERCIAL+RESTRICTE
Active Ingredient(s) : CARBARYL
1-NAPTHYL METHYLCARBAMATE
CASN = 63-25-2 ( GUAR = 42.8 % MINIMUM )

#2 Product Information
Registration Number : 27876
Product Name : SEVIN BRAND XLR CARBARYL INSECTICIDE
Registrant Name : BAYER CROPSCIENCE INC.*
Registration Status : REGISTERED
Date of First Registration : 2004-11-04
Last Sale by Registrant :
Last Sale by Retail :
Expiry Date of Registration : 2012-12-31
Marketing Type : COMMERCIAL+RESTRICTE
Active Ingredient(s) : CARBARYL
1-NAPTHYL METHYLCARBAMATE
CASN = 63-25-2 ( GUAR = 42.8 % MINIMUM )

#3 Product Information
Registration Number : 6839
Product Name : SEVIN BRAND 50W CARBARYL INSECTICIDE WETTABLE POWDER
Registrant Name : BAYER CROPSCIENCE INC.*
Registration Status : REGISTERED
Date of First Registration : 1958-07-01
Last Sale by Registrant :
Last Sale by Retail :
Expiry Date of Registration : 2012-12-31
Marketing Type : COMMERCIAL+RESTRICTE
Active Ingredient(s) : CARBARYL
1-NAPTHYL METHYLCARBAMATE
CASN = 63-25-2 ( GUAR = 50 % MINIMUM )

This is by no means a "NEW" product, but perhaps they have discovered a NEW use for it.

Here is the link to the site that we use in Canada: Search Product Label

There appears to be a lot of well kept secrets in the chemical game, and what can be used on trees here is the best kept one.
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Old 18th April 2008, 11:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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why do these registration labels not mention emamectin is that a new name for an old product??
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Old 18th April 2008, 11:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Treelore, thats a GREAT question. I was hoping that some of the other members here knew the site for their countries. It is always best to compare apples to apples.

I searched using emametin benzoate, and found absolutely NOTHING! Does OZ or the Uk have on-line product searches. I bet they do, I am reluctant to waste much time on trying to find out for my area. The public is funny, some people want to spray everything, and the other half won't let you near their place IF you've been near a closed chemical jug.

This is often an issue for conducting business. The cost of insurance keeps me out of the spraying game. The other thing is that the information and the actual products are near to impossible to get. Historically, Canada is behind the eight ball when it come to timely decisions on chemicals. You would think we would be at the forefront in Herbicides and pesticides, but the UK is where most of the research is happening.
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Old 19th April 2008, 04:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Emamectin is not Carbaryl/Sevin. Don't know why you came up with this product when searching but maybe this product name reg. expired or maybe it is because the current product name has a little mark above the a (in age) that may denote the flat a in computer key speak. This would make it sound like triage as I mentioned. Whatever, they are not the same product.

I don't like to speak prior to knowing what I am talking about but I will take an educated guess in this case. $ have been pushing mfctrs. to get this chemical out to the public to control EAB. Big $ s. They have been unsuccessful because of validated potential damage to the environment (with EmBen). It is right near timing (beginning of May) to get any control with the hit on the first instar.
The connection was maybe put out for bid to companies capable of delivering this chem with an injection (safer) and Arborjet got it. This appeared on our newscast on Thur, 4/17/08 I believe. Everything is so new you won't find much on the web. I think this product was granted (Tree-age) an emergency registration.

As I said this an educated guess. Probably next to no history with this product/delivery. I believe Grosse Point Farms, Mich. is having success with injections on EAB with Arborjet, but I think it is with Immidacloprid (sp?)
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PS. As Ekka would say and it is true at times this (TW) is a form of the "News".
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Here s a little more news for those inclined. Hope I copy this right.

http://pested.osu.edu/documents/24%2...s/oh080002.pdf
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Old 19th April 2008, 07:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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And another Emben tidbit courtesy of Brent and Lennice:

Emamectin Benzoate
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