Emerald Ash Borer| New Treatment 99% Effective

Tree Machine

Good luck to you, brother.

Emamectin is seeming to be very encouraging. I have a lot of clients ask me about the pest. I just let them know the borer has not been seen in our neighborhoods and that I will be sending a postcard to all my clients as soon as it is verified nearby, informing them of what our plan of action will be.

I see a future filled with answering the same damn EAB questions hundreds of times over.
I hate this bug already.

treevet

Same to you Jim. We ll have to get together sometime. I ve been through Indy every wk end the last couple of months for my kids track events. Sat we went to Anderson College.

Might advise you that it is not the wrong thing to start treatments even before the bug hits as as you said there is no knowing if it isn t already in the tops of the ash as this is where it starts (and is often undetected for years). The earlier the better it is said re treatments.

I did some last year and already have some scheduled for next month

I am going to crash and you don't need to reply unless you want to.

arborjockey

Wait tell the EAB gets here befor you cut the trees down first of all. If anybody in our area needs worry about E.A.B. we treat trees and guarantee the tree as long as the client gets the systemic yearly. The $ of the treatment will go down. It has to. Were in america will probably end up getting a subsidy for it. There sure are alot of big ash trees. Makes you think.........

treeman48423

I am new to this forum, Looks good so far <. theres some good communication on this subject.Quick question - if you was to apply this product ( tree-age ) what would you charge ? x$ per inch , and so forth . Thanks in advance - Tim Taylor

treevet

I am fairly sure you could get some assistance on that question from the distributer you will have to go through to purchase the EmBen product and the equipment to introduce it into the tree with. I think you may also get some free advertising on the web when you buy in. It is very expensive. to forewarn you.

treeman48423

Thanks for your response . we know sales people have their pitch and ideas , but I tend to lean towards us in the field , any thoughts ? Thanks

treevet

Yeah Tim, first off the EmBen cost over 500$ for a liter. Think a liter of coke.....500$. Also the equipment can cost from 500$ to 2k$ I think I was told. Anyway this is the same situation when I was raped buying the past current savior product known as Safari last year(which has fallen from grace). If I remember correctly I paid over 400$ for a granular liter that treated very few trees. We can guess who is making the big $ (not us field guys). I correspond with a lead researcher at Ohio State and the tested data on the Tree ("Ahge") product was high nineties in one test and mid seventies in another. Very good but not perfect like it will need to be under high pressure (heavy infestation). It tested very similar to injected immidacloprid.

Hey, if you ve got ten bugs attacking the tree and you re getting hit 3 times (in 70 percent scenerio)....no problem. But if you ve got a thousand of the little shits hitting and 300 are successful it is curtains and I have witnessed this as I am sure you have in Mich.

I guess the top treatments are injections of Immid or EmBen. But what about the injection wounds. Not a small consideration.

newguy18

A little off topic but have any of you guys used this stuff?
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treevet

I'm on a rain day and small things entertain small minds. New treatment might be to ban doggy style on shiny ass insects.

http://www.invasive.org/images/768x512/9009032.ipg

treevet

one more try w a couple of eab's doing the nasty:

http://www.invasive.org/images/768x512/9009032.jpg

if this doesn t work I am headed back to the desk.

newguy18

I didn't need to see that,noone has tried the chemical i posted earlier,i saw it on the back of tree service magazine and now i'm curious about it.

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treevet

Advice from old guy to newguy;......don't believe everything you read.

treevet

PS. while a bit crass, this is the clearest most identifiable picture of Emerald ash borer I have seen anywhere anytime. From David Caeppert, Mich. State Eab researcher's site.

newguy18

Oh believe me i don't thats why i'm asking first.It isn't hard to pay someone to run and ad for you.

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treevet

Beyond that, Bill, a lot of the research you see noted is conducted by the manufacturer. Could be a little biased when company is signing their paychecks.
If you can get the word right from the researcher's mouth then it is gold. I asked one to come on this forum but it was declined. No new empirical data has been published yet this year as far as I have heard but I am keeping an eye out for it and will post it.

newguy18

and now back to eab's.

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treevet

I would venture to say that the title of this thread is 99% inaccurate. Anyone else have any educated opinions on this that has done the seminars and reading and spoke with the contacts and has about 40 years of high level arborist's background? Otherwise we should bury this thread or discontinue. 30 million trees have died so far and there has been some accurate, some vague and some misleading info due to a variety of reasons not the least of which is the fact that it is underfunded leaving many directions untravelled.

treevet

substantial new discoveries of EAB infestations in greater Cincinnati. Also some new non technical research info.

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