Ekka, whats with the Blakes?

newguy18

try and stay outta the line clearance end.sometimes i'm half tempted to climb up after them.

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Therrin

You should try throwing rocks at them Newguy

Either that or call me and I'll show up with the Arbor Harpoon... we can lob some baseballs at em!

newguy18

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bigshea13

you better stay on the ground little fella. those boys would tear you apart and laugh while doing it

treeseer

Asplundh's clearance work in this area was excellent.

Davey's consulting/inventory work, not so good. Interns condemning big oaks due to dead branches, etc. 268 trees condemned, only 23 of those for a good reason. Hack consulting is worse than hack pruning cuz it wrecks more trees in less time.

newguy18

the line clearance guys in my area look like wimps I think I can take them.At least I don't hook the trees.

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bigshea13

im with ya on that. you cant condemn an entire outfit for the actions of a few idiots. lotta good men in those companies im sure

bigshea13

no ypu may not hook the trees but you sure like to try getting your hooks into others nerves

newguy18

i'm not ragging on you shea just asplunduh and mainly the big orange in my area.if I offended you I'm sorry but i turned down thier job offer last year for a reason.

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dannyboysfc

Maybe you could be more specific, I worked out here doing inventory/consulting work for almost a year before I returned to trimming. We did an excellent job.

Eric Frei

What exactly were they doing, surveying town park trees or something?

I mean 268 trees condemned, how many did they visit and why no remedial pruning/deadwooding etc?

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treeseer

It was for a town that hired them to do an inventory of street trees with grant funds. The town planner did not know what to do with it because there were no other options offered; the form just said "defect-poor condition-remove".

I was hired for a 2nd opinion and gave it. Their inventory was a waste of my tax money. Davey lowballs inventories, seemingly as a "loss leader", to get their foot in the municipal door. Tree assessment done by kids just out of school.

I hear Davey's best researcher guy quit. Sounds like the company's going downhill. Danny, I'm sure some crews and guys with them do good work, but overall it does not look good for the company. I'm told that they are working on the problems, but "quality control is an issue".

quercus

I can't say if these company's are doing a good job or not, but what I do know is that I'm allergic to anyone who call themselves tree surgeons and big treecare company's...

dannyboysfc

Davey: History

Hey use the website, check them out for yourselves. I have aquired lots of knowledge and skill from working with them. I think that they must be successfull and an industry leader for a reason.

I am not a sold out company man by the way, I plan on moving on to owning my own company at some point, hopefully soon, but they are a good outfit.

newguy18

if asplunduh does nationwide what they do here then they're terrible.

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TREEMONKEY

Davey just bought out the biggest tree company in my area. I hope this is good for me I can only hope they do bad work and get a bad reputation. If not they might get three more crews and take all my work. I hope they quote as high as the previous owner it keeps me busy.

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newguy18

I don't see davey in my area anymore.

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Eric Frei

A good discussion which went off topic has been moved to here

Tree Arbor Green Fertilizer

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dannyboysfc

I was using the blakes up untill a day or two ago, started using the VT with micropully on a Petzl biner. I like the new setup, Im gonna use it for a while though before I give my final judgment.

quercus

I've been using that setup for years now. The best setup by far if you've got the proper equipment for it.

newguy18

it varies between a blakes or tautline mostly for me.

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Alex Metzler

first off I just want to say hey to everyone here.
this is a cool subject for me cuz iv been climbing on the same three finger taught line hitch for years and its never (not) let me down when iv relied on it most, its quick to tie and easy to operate wet or dry, but lately iv been trying a prusik w. a micro pully to advance the slack, and after thinking it through I lean more towards agreeing with ekka in that having all that extra rigging just too over board, especially cuz we predominately do TDs I need some thing that I can tie w my eyes closed. and in response to ekka's post "In global terminolgy, we're euc men and you guys seem to be more oak men." what is the differance in oakmen and eucmen, I thought it meant eucmen where more fly by night, mismatched trucks and equipment, and oakmen had it together with like a nice matching truck & chipper and tools

Eric Frei

Haha,

The old eucman vs oakman thing.

eucmen are typically tree slayers, they wear spikes and flip on up dropping off the limbs as they go. The perspective is of some tanned bronzed Aussie bringing this huge beast of a tree down, with room of course. The climber gets close enough to the top to fell it, flips on down blocking out large sections.

oakmen are typically more sensative and caring for the tree. The tree has value, has been there for 100's of years. the oakman wears no spikes, uses a lifefline and delicately works the tree to deadwood it and care for it. The oakman is gay, usually drives a pick up and lives in America with millions of other gays who can have children (banned in most civilized countries).

Oh, I added the red bit for fun.

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Cole

this is one of the set up's i have run, dont use it too much now i have added a swivel, all spliced of course, or a distel depends how im feeling that day,,

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Eric Frei

Cole, what sort of harness do you have?

I see a micropulley on the harness bridge ...... the rest hangs off that with a hitch climber pulley.

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Cole

thats on my tree motion my everyday harness and ive got two new ergovations, got a navaho boss sit and a sala exofit tower harness, an a real old tree magic, i now run a piggy back high-point system so ive been using the rope guide less now only for re-directs and smaller tree's rec climbing etc

Eric Frei

Mate, why the hell you got so many saddles, you get them for free?

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Cole

im a absolute gear junkie i love buying testing new latest gear etc trying to add to improve on roping systems, i do indstrial access stuff as well,im just starting to do some stuff with hunter tafe with close approach training.. which i needed to talk to you about ekka, where can i get my cert in training and asesment as im keen to look into it, also do training in high angle rescue etc with north american training with schott proffet and ed carpenter

arborjockey

where you been?