Dont bother with insurance just get SES for free

Ekka · 4th June 2007, 10:52 PM

You know of the other thread I started where people ignore their tree issues then when it fails claim it on insurance. And the most recent Toyota Prado getting flattened was a beauty.

Well, how about trying SES for a freebie to then?

Top case in this link,
http://www.ses.gil.com.au/activations.htm open the pics up and view them enlarged. Notice the black plastic, decay and pumped roots and poor root ball? Notice the lean on the remaining palm?

Act of God or negligence? Hmmm, I know which one.

They even got a crane out on a Sunday... imagine that.

So hows this work?

Didn't look like some life threatening condition to me that needed SES. I wonder where they draw the line on what gets done?

Anyone experienced in this area, fill us in.

a_lopa · 4th June 2007, 11:06 PM

I get that regulary after decent winds/storm usually just want the SES to get it off whatever its on and them they can do the rest,last time i goit to the job the same time as them (made sure i drove truck and chipper there) and SES guy said i may as well do it.Customer even said to me ill see how it goes with the SES then i might get you to do it!

A P.I.T.A on a sunday

TrevMcRev · 5th June 2007, 02:36 AM

Here the SES will just make it safe and leave the rest to be sorted out either thru insurance or privately.

Storm work is a good income generator, but EMERGENCY storm work is more hassle than its worth most times. I'd rather let the SES do that part of it.

MOst times its panic stations for the customer, they (dozens of seperate people at once) want you and a crew there immediately regardless of day or time. Half the time there is no immediate danger, just a tree laying in the back yard that wont fall a 2nd time. And because its not a job you already quoted they freak at even a normal price let alone a loading for doing it after hours.

I'd rather look after my existing customers that have had the foresight to have their trees checked out, decided on a solution, confident in our service, agreed on our price, booked us in etc. Why should i cancel a job of theirs to run round chasing crap.

Then storm work for my existing customers and regular repair/insurers gets preferance over ring ins.

I had one of these go ape (after doing it) at me for wanting $300+gst per hr (normal rate for 3 men, truck & 18") to drop everything, cancel our existing work to come and clear his driveway. He said "Not even a QC makes that much" I dont make that much, thats got to cover 5 people, $200,000 worth of equipment, maintenance, advertising etc.

Oldtimer · 5th June 2007, 02:40 PM

Are those the local Emergency Response Teams????
They do not have those around here. If a tree falls on you house or yard even during a Storm, that is your problem how to clean up the mess and work it out with your private homeowners Insurance. You have to cut it your self or call the local Tree Care Company to get it done. No Freebies here.
I guess you guys get more for your taxes paid. All of our taxes get used up in Irak blowing things up or being blown up by so called terrorists!

JohN Dee · 5th June 2007, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldtimer

Are those the local Emergency Response Teams????
They do not have those around here. If a tree falls on you house or yard even during a Storm, that is your problem how to clean up the mess and work it out with your private homeowners Insurance. You have to cut it your self or call the local Tree Care Company to get it done. No Freebies here.
I guess you guys get more for your taxes paid. All of our taxes get used up in Irak blowing things up or being blown up by so called terrorists!

Oldtimer here is the link to the SES of NSW. They're exactly what you said. An emergency response team.

We've done numerous amounts of prune jobs and did corrective pruning - where the SES has come in and made the tree "safe", yeah right.

Recon Freak · 6th June 2007, 05:48 PM

What's SES?

Ekka · 6th June 2007, 11:18 PM

State Emergency Services

4th June 2007, 10:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,986	Dont bother with insurance just get SES for free You know of the other thread I started where people ignore their tree issues then when it fails claim it on insurance. And the most recent Toyota Prado getting flattened was a beauty. Well, how about trying SES for a freebie to then? Top case in this link, http://www.ses.gil.com.au/activations.htm open the pics up and view them enlarged. Notice the black plastic, decay and pumped roots and poor root ball? Notice the lean on the remaining palm? Act of God or negligence? Hmmm, I know which one. They even got a crane out on a Sunday... imagine that. So hows this work? Didn't look like some life threatening condition to me that needed SES. I wonder where they draw the line on what gets done? Anyone experienced in this area, fill us in. __________________ Tree World Legal Fighting Fund\| Protect Your Rights to Freedom Of Speech\| Pledge Today Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

4th June 2007, 11:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 951	I get that regulary after decent winds/storm usually just want the SES to get it off whatever its on and them they can do the rest,last time i goit to the job the same time as them (made sure i drove truck and chipper there) and SES guy said i may as well do it.Customer even said to me ill see how it goes with the SES then i might get you to do it! A P.I.T.A on a sunday __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory

5th June 2007, 02:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 862	Here the SES will just make it safe and leave the rest to be sorted out either thru insurance or privately. Storm work is a good income generator, but EMERGENCY storm work is more hassle than its worth most times. I'd rather let the SES do that part of it. MOst times its panic stations for the customer, they (dozens of seperate people at once) want you and a crew there immediately regardless of day or time. Half the time there is no immediate danger, just a tree laying in the back yard that wont fall a 2nd time. And because its not a job you already quoted they freak at even a normal price let alone a loading for doing it after hours. I'd rather look after my existing customers that have had the foresight to have their trees checked out, decided on a solution, confident in our service, agreed on our price, booked us in etc. Why should i cancel a job of theirs to run round chasing crap. Then storm work for my existing customers and regular repair/insurers gets preferance over ring ins. I had one of these go ape (after doing it) at me for wanting $300+gst per hr (normal rate for 3 men, truck & 18") to drop everything, cancel our existing work to come and clear his driveway. He said "Not even a QC makes that much" I dont make that much, thats got to cover 5 people, $200,000 worth of equipment, maintenance, advertising etc. __________________ Total Tree Care- Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal www.treegear.com.au Tree Climbing Gear, Arborist Supplies

5th June 2007, 02:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Oldtimer Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austin TX Posts: 72	What is SES? Are those the local Emergency Response Teams???? They do not have those around here. If a tree falls on you house or yard even during a Storm, that is your problem how to clean up the mess and work it out with your private homeowners Insurance. You have to cut it your self or call the local Tree Care Company to get it done. No Freebies here. I guess you guys get more for your taxes paid. All of our taxes get used up in Irak blowing things up or being blown up by so called terrorists!

6th June 2007, 05:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Recon Freak Sappling Join Date: May 2007 Location: Evansville,IN USA Posts: 11	Not an aussie! What's SES?

6th June 2007, 11:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,986	State Emergency Services __________________ Tree World Legal Fighting Fund\| Protect Your Rights to Freedom Of Speech\| Pledge Today Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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