Which do you prefer?

stoneknight

ok so I got a preference question. Which do you prefer for your climbing saddle?
a hard seat or independant leg straps...and why?

newguy18

I can't speak for either as i have a weaver 4 dee.it is a p.o.s.don't buy it.

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Therrin

Not to nag... but it should be "which do you prefer?"

I've used both. They both have pros and cons. Depends...

Big dismantles where you've gotta spend a little time inbetween waiting for the rope to come up and down, etc... or waiting around for any reason, the single strap is more comfy.

As far as agility, the seperate leg straps are best.

Eric Frei

Hard seat coz it aint a nut crusher and comfy coz your azz takes the weight not ya legs!

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stoneknight

ok so we all agree that my spelling is not my strongest trait.

Pro Nemus

I actually like the weaver saddles quite a bit. I have a 4-dee with a butt-strap and a floating-dee with leg loops. I don't find either to be uncomfortable.

However, the floating-dee is a big plus. In fact, the next saddle I buy will have double floating dees. This makes it so much easier to walk a limb or make a cut facing away from your TIP.

Daveindubuque

I started in the 4 d weaver nut cruncher. That was company owned. That made my back sore from fighting my rope. Decided if I was too stay in the business for more than a year, I would have to change saddles. Went to the weaver slidin' d with leg straps, hdp roller. Nice set up, comfy good mobility, though slightly heavy. Slid off my hips due to a lack of azz. Then moved to the glide. Nice saddle. Little bit lighter, rope bridge with a micro pulley. Didn't like the web style belt, After while it would slip down with saw weight. So I went to the buckingham traverse deluxe with a boson seat. Super comfy, and with plenty of mobility, and a major plus it stays were it sould.

Therrin

Daveindubuque,

You can use suspenders or a chest harness to keep your saddle from sliding down. Works pretty well, keeps it in place and comfy.

Was looking at the hdp rollers in Sherrill's catalog the other day, looked interesting, how did you like it? Noticeable difference? Is it a system you'd hold onto, or did it just work for the time being?

pomme

got an old sky belt. need to change if as its f**ked, worn right out but comfy as
the new ones are nt the same D s come a bit higher so pulls on your back. like a belt with fixed D s soft seat and leg loops any suggestions cheers

treestyle

i puffer single leg straps. got buckinham glide. if i gota hang i can slide the leg loops more under the back of my knees and avoid the nut squash. tried seat once once but i no like, guess you'll get used to what ever you use, or learn in?

you spellings fine mate.....very creative!

Streyken

A cauldron and a bong - sorry it's the Australian Shiraz.

Very True, and you'll be criticized to no end if it isn't what's in style with the current self proclaimed "tree experts," whatever that is. Doesn't matter that the guy telling me what I should be doing, and using, has been in the hospital twice, plus knocked out a set of primaries in the last three years. (Can you tell I've had a bad start to the week dealing with the local apes?) I use the Buckingham 1374 (floating Dee) without leg straps, and I love it. This is only my second belt in 14 year.

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treevet

Nothing like getting unsolicited advice from a bad tree man. Anyway I purfer a seat saddle, got a few of them and sometime I reluctantly do the leg straps. Never had them before in the old days. One s got full suspenders. I got to have a double rope snap. They only come in the safety version these days (Sherrill) but I bought a whole box full at an auction years ago without safeties. They are easy on the hips in the spring when I get blisters and a few wraps and catch rope in one snap and they make a great thrower, but don t let it swing into your forehead

pomme

i loved my old sit harness but the freedom police outlawed them years ago, all harnesses in the uk have to have leg loops. there was a call to enforce full body harnesses but that hasn t happened yet thank f**k

treevet

Is there actually somebody out there patrolling with binocs trying to catch guys with saddle violations? If so, how much of a bite do they have?

Is that your motorpickle? What kind have you got?

pomme

Think we got more cameras than people here. if your caught using one you ll get thrown off site and maybe prosecuted for it health and safety police (bastards)

Yep thats my old bike taken at brands hatch (coming out of Druids)

now got a later gsxr 750 picking up a gsxr 600 for the mrs on sunday (happy days)

treevet

Now, that s some serious gear there. If I was younger I would have a race replica like those. I ride a product of your country, an 05 Triumph Speed Triple 1050. My mother was a war bride from England and genetics made me buy it I guess. A good ride after work gets me back to work the next day after busting ass all day.

treevet

PS. That and Tree World!

pomme

nothing wrong with a Trumpet those speed triples are supposed to be the mutts nuts. my mate has one keep threatening to nick it for a blast

TREEMONKEY

I have not tried a lot of harnesses but i use and really like the buckingham versatile deluxe. it has the hard gel seat and is very adjustable for comfort. the leg staps are a quick clip in and out and i rarely notice they are even on.

i have used the hp rollers they are nice and worked well untill the line is
unweighted then occasionally the carabiner flips and is a pain i that problem could be fixed. i do not use them often now i just let the carabiner run on the leather strap or in the 6 loops along the strap.

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stoneknight

what type of carabiner? is it a pear shape?... and does it have exess wear on the leather strap with 6 loops by alowing the beeners to "run free"?(meaning was it designed for that?)

Bermy

Komet Butterfly (original), sliding bridge, leg loops. Added some suspenders...nice and comfy. Backup is an Edelrid Tree Magic, still breaking it in.
Lots of the trees I work in require scrambling through and round little twiggy branches...The hard seat would get in the way.

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newguy18

Same here.

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ronnyb

I currently climb on the Buckingham Versatile (leg straps) but I have used a Tree Austria, Weaver 4 D, Petzl Navaho, and Master 2 in the past. I've been climbing with a lockjack sport for the past couple of months and want to switch saddles to either a Buckingham Glide, BF2, or the Petzl Sequoia.

Daveindubuque

I like the hdp roller system. It is one I would keep useing. I use the Petzel swivel on my climb line (nice). Then my caribiner to my bridge. You have alot less friction on your bridge. No twisting of the climb line. One of the things I like about the versatile over the glide is that you have the feeling of lock points as the roller goes across the bridge. The glide is super smooth as being a rope bridge. With useing just a caribiner on the bridge you are going to have more friction. But it would take an eternity to hurt that bridge. I too had the problem with the caribiner floating around. I fixed that problem with a little soldering wire and made a retaining clip.

FlashD

i've been eye-balling the Navaho for a while. any opinions?

newguy18

me too its gotta be better than my 4 dee.

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ronnyb

I got rid of my Navaho, there was not very much padding in it at all and really not many attachment points for gear, you have to add accessory carabiners. It was alright for quick pruning jobs, but not much else. Petzl did just come out with their new saddle- the Sequoia. One thing that I've noticed is that European saddles tend to have less padding and less rings/ snaps sewn into the saddle, and that's why I'm leaning towards getting the glide.

newguy18

gotta be better then what i'm on now.i saw bucking hams new line of saddles but didn't look like anything i'd buy.

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JCONN

In my opinion I think its mostly what you learn on. I used a seat the first 2 times in a tree, then leg straps every time after. When I bought my first saddle I went with the leg straps. Its hard to break old habbits espeacially ones that work. In fact I just bnought my first split tail, I started climbing traditional style and never stopped. Hopefully will have a chance to try it out today.

Bermy

Which European harness are you talking about? oops just read again...Navaho
The Komet has three big loops, two rings, and space to add a bent gate crab on each hip.
The Edelrid has six gear loops, two rings and comes with a crab on the right hip.
Padding...yes the Komet could use some more on the hips but the width on both is more than adequate...mind you I'm only 115lbs soaking wet!

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