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| Sappling Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: victoria, bc
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ok so I got a preference question. Which do you prefer for your climbing saddle? a hard seat or independant leg straps...and why? Last edited by Eric Frei; 24th February 2008 at 10:06 AM. Reason: Corrected terms & spelling |
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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I can't speak for either as i have a weaver 4 dee.it is a p.o.s.don't buy it.
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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Not to nag... but it should be "which do you prefer?" I've used both. They both have pros and cons. Depends... Big dismantles where you've gotta spend a little time inbetween waiting for the rope to come up and down, etc... or waiting around for any reason, the single strap is more comfy. As far as agility, the seperate leg straps are best. |
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Hard seat coz it aint a nut crusher and comfy coz your azz takes the weight not ya legs!
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| Sappling Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: victoria, bc
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ok so we all agree that my spelling is not my strongest trait.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Detroit, MI
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I actually like the weaver saddles quite a bit. I have a 4-dee with a butt-strap and a floating-dee with leg loops. I don't find either to be uncomfortable. However, the floating-dee is a big plus. In fact, the next saddle I buy will have double floating dees. This makes it so much easier to walk a limb or make a cut facing away from your TIP. |
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubuque Ia
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I started in the 4 d weaver nut cruncher. That was company owned. That made my back sore from fighting my rope. Decided if I was too stay in the business for more than a year, I would have to change saddles. Went to the weaver slidin' d with leg straps, hdp roller. Nice set up, comfy good mobility, though slightly heavy. Slid off my hips due to a lack of azz. Then moved to the glide. Nice saddle. Little bit lighter, rope bridge with a micro pulley. Didn't like the web style belt, After while it would slip down with saw weight. So I went to the buckingham traverse deluxe with a boson seat. Super comfy, and with plenty of mobility, and a major plus it stays were it sould. |
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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Daveindubuque, You can use suspenders or a chest harness to keep your saddle from sliding down. Works pretty well, keeps it in place and comfy. Was looking at the hdp rollers in Sherrill's catalog the other day, looked interesting, how did you like it? Noticeable difference? Is it a system you'd hold onto, or did it just work for the time being? |
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| Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england
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got an old sky belt. need to change if as its f**ked, worn right out but comfy as the new ones are nt the same D s come a bit higher so pulls on your back. like a belt with fixed D s soft seat and leg loops any suggestions cheers |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane
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i puffer single leg straps. got buckinham glide. if i gota hang i can slide the leg loops more under the back of my knees and avoid the nut squash. tried seat once once but i no like, guess you'll get used to what ever you use, or learn in? you spellings fine mate.....very creative! |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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A cauldron and a bong - sorry it's the Australian Shiraz. Very True, and you'll be criticized to no end if it isn't what's in style with the current self proclaimed "tree experts," whatever that is. Doesn't matter that the guy telling me what I should be doing, and using, has been in the hospital twice, plus knocked out a set of primaries in the last three years. (Can you tell I've had a bad start to the week dealing with the local apes?) I use the Buckingham 1374 (floating Dee) without leg straps, and I love it. This is only my second belt in 14 year.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Nothing like getting unsolicited advice from a bad tree man. Anyway I purfer a seat saddle, got a few of them and sometime I reluctantly do the leg straps. Never had them before in the old days. One s got full suspenders. I got to have a double rope snap. They only come in the safety version these days (Sherrill) but I bought a whole box full at an auction years ago without safeties. They are easy on the hips in the spring when I get blisters and a few wraps and catch rope in one snap and they make a great thrower, but don t let it swing into your forehead |
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| Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england
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i loved my old sit harness but the freedom police outlawed them years ago, all harnesses in the uk have to have leg loops. there was a call to enforce full body harnesses but that hasn t happened yet thank f**k
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england
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Think we got more cameras than people here. if your caught using one you ll get thrown off site and maybe prosecuted for it health and safety police (bastards) Yep thats my old bike taken at brands hatch (coming out of Druids) now got a later gsxr 750 picking up a gsxr 600 for the mrs on sunday (happy days) | |
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ONTARIO, CANADA
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I have not tried a lot of harnesses but i use and really like the buckingham versatile deluxe. it has the hard gel seat and is very adjustable for comfort. the leg staps are a quick clip in and out and i rarely notice they are even on. i have used the hp rollers they are nice and worked well untill the line is unweighted then occasionally the carabiner flips and is a pain i that problem could be fixed. i do not use them often now i just let the carabiner run on the leather strap or in the 6 loops along the strap.
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| Sappling Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: victoria, bc
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bermuda
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Komet Butterfly (original), sliding bridge, leg loops. Added some suspenders...nice and comfy. Backup is an Edelrid Tree Magic, still breaking it in. Lots of the trees I work in require scrambling through and round little twiggy branches...The hard seat would get in the way.
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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Same here.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin
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I currently climb on the Buckingham Versatile (leg straps) but I have used a Tree Austria, Weaver 4 D, Petzl Navaho, and Master 2 in the past. I've been climbing with a lockjack sport for the past couple of months and want to switch saddles to either a Buckingham Glide, BF2, or the Petzl Sequoia.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubuque Ia
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I like the hdp roller system. It is one I would keep useing. I use the Petzel swivel on my climb line (nice). Then my caribiner to my bridge. You have alot less friction on your bridge. No twisting of the climb line. One of the things I like about the versatile over the glide is that you have the feeling of lock points as the roller goes across the bridge. The glide is super smooth as being a rope bridge. With useing just a caribiner on the bridge you are going to have more friction. But it would take an eternity to hurt that bridge. I too had the problem with the caribiner floating around. I fixed that problem with a little soldering wire and made a retaining clip. |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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me too its gotta be better than my 4 dee.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin
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I got rid of my Navaho, there was not very much padding in it at all and really not many attachment points for gear, you have to add accessory carabiners. It was alright for quick pruning jobs, but not much else. Petzl did just come out with their new saddle- the Sequoia. One thing that I've noticed is that European saddles tend to have less padding and less rings/ snaps sewn into the saddle, and that's why I'm leaning towards getting the glide.
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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gotta be better then what i'm on now.i saw bucking hams new line of saddles but didn't look like anything i'd buy.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ROCHESTER NY
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In my opinion I think its mostly what you learn on. I used a seat the first 2 times in a tree, then leg straps every time after. When I bought my first saddle I went with the leg straps. Its hard to break old habbits espeacially ones that work. In fact I just bnought my first split tail, I started climbing traditional style and never stopped. Hopefully will have a chance to try it out today.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bermuda
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The Komet has three big loops, two rings, and space to add a bent gate crab on each hip. The Edelrid has six gear loops, two rings and comes with a crab on the right hip. Padding...yes the Komet could use some more on the hips but the width on both is more than adequate...mind you I'm only 115lbs soaking wet!
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