creating hollows in dead trees.

treestyle · 2nd July 2008, 03:40 AM

hi,

i work alot with large dead trees, generally i am requested to lop them back to some sort of crap hat rack that really doesnt provide any sort of habitat, and apparently the only reason for these structures being retained IS to provide habitat.

we have requested nest boxes so we can install them at the time of tree work, however the environmental department just cant get them sorted. they're too busy trying to document and remember where they have put them in the past.

we have bored holes using the saw but you really cant get a decent enough hollow that anything would live in.

my thoughts......get one them petrol powered drills and drill holes in the ends of cut branches. i havent done enough research yet but i think the holes / hollows would need to be approx 5 - 10cm round and a minimum of 30cm deep?

is this a feasible idea? are there drill bits out there that are capable of 10x30cm deep holes in dead Euc that's harder then a cats head?

thanks!

Ekka · 2nd July 2008, 05:11 AM

I have two issues with councils leaving habitat trees.

1/ many times they are in striking distance of targets.
2/ lack of hollows, yes, they're just hat racked pieces of shit, and the crows and ibis love the perch.

Spade bits and augers simple wont go big enough but they might get the birds started. The birds might peck away at it. Those hole saws are no good as they have to punch through, OK for doors etc but not what you are doing.

Need like a router bit in the hole to open her up mate, research long router bits. Drill the biggest hole you can then open up with a router.

blair duncanson · 7th July 2008, 04:43 PM

Why look for immediate habitat. Surely through time different habitats will come about, aye drilling will help and the odd bat or bird box will also.Planting some sort of dense climber at base would perhaps speed things along.Perhaps try to retain as many cavaties as possible, also crown cutting your finished limbs will help? Tare cuts also.

Done it · 8th July 2008, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I have two issues with councils leaving habitat trees.

1/ many times they are in striking distance of targets.
2/ lack of hollows, yes, they're just hat racked pieces of shit, and the crows and ibis love the perch.

Spade bits and augers simple wont go big enough but they might get the birds started. The birds might peck away at it. Those hole saws are no good as they have to punch through, OK for doors etc but not what you are doing.

Need like a router bit in the hole to open her up mate, research long router bits. Drill the biggest hole you can then open up with a router.

Wasn't there a guy on here a few months ago that was making & installing nest boxes? I think he was from South Africa. He seemed to have it figured out.

Done it · 11th July 2008, 03:04 AM

He may have had it figured out, [maybe] but it seems he's been & gone. Certainly didn't try too hard to sell them, I was interested.

Nesting Logs??

Ekka · 11th July 2008, 03:41 AM

LOL, he even slipped in underneath the advertising radar, got a break but bolted, try PM him perhaps.

2nd July 2008, 03:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 124	creating hollows in dead trees. hi, i work alot with large dead trees, generally i am requested to lop them back to some sort of crap hat rack that really doesnt provide any sort of habitat, and apparently the only reason for these structures being retained IS to provide habitat. we have requested nest boxes so we can install them at the time of tree work, however the environmental department just cant get them sorted. they're too busy trying to document and remember where they have put them in the past. we have bored holes using the saw but you really cant get a decent enough hollow that anything would live in. my thoughts......get one them petrol powered drills and drill holes in the ends of cut branches. i havent done enough research yet but i think the holes / hollows would need to be approx 5 - 10cm round and a minimum of 30cm deep? is this a feasible idea? are there drill bits out there that are capable of 10x30cm deep holes in dead Euc that's harder then a cats head? thanks!

2nd July 2008, 05:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,734	Re: creating hollows in dead trees. I have two issues with councils leaving habitat trees. 1/ many times they are in striking distance of targets. 2/ lack of hollows, yes, they're just hat racked pieces of shit, and the crows and ibis love the perch. Spade bits and augers simple wont go big enough but they might get the birds started. The birds might peck away at it. Those hole saws are no good as they have to punch through, OK for doors etc but not what you are doing. Need like a router bit in the hole to open her up mate, research long router bits. Drill the biggest hole you can then open up with a router. __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory .... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

7th July 2008, 04:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
blair duncanson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: argyll Posts: 127	Re: creating hollows in dead trees. Why look for immediate habitat. Surely through time different habitats will come about, aye drilling will help and the odd bat or bird box will also.Planting some sort of dense climber at base would perhaps speed things along.Perhaps try to retain as many cavaties as possible, also crown cutting your finished limbs will help? Tare cuts also.

11th July 2008, 03:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Done it Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 376	Re: creating hollows in dead trees. He may have had it figured out, [maybe] but it seems he's been & gone. Certainly didn't try too hard to sell them, I was interested. Nesting Logs??

11th July 2008, 03:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,734	Re: creating hollows in dead trees. LOL, he even slipped in underneath the advertising radar, got a break but bolted, try PM him perhaps. __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory .... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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