Conifers and especially Cupressus

Sequoia · 30th August 2007, 03:56 AM

As I am new here, I think it could be ok to tell you what are my main interests.

Although living in Switzerland, I am caring about an arboretum dedicated to conifers in the South of France. It is not just to plant one tree of one species, but small groves. Several exotic trees planted in the region for timber are regenerating quite easily. After we experienced several dry Summers in a row, I am concentrating now on species adapted to that climate change, and especially on the genus Cupressus. I started a Cupressus Conservation Project after observing that some populations are under a constant threat in the wild. In the arboretum, many species adapted to drought are thriving.

I am always in need of help if anyone lives close to such populations of Cypresses or will travel close to them (photos, cones, seeds, report,...).

As I can see that there are several participants in this forum living in Australia. Unfortunately Australian conifers are difficult to grow in the arboretum. Or the Winter is too cold (-10?C), for instance for Callitris and Actinostrobus species, or the Summer is too dry, for instance for the Tasmanian conifers. So far I could only maintain an Athrotaxis selaginoides in the garden, where watering is always possible in Summer.

Best wishes,
Sequoia

a_lopa · 31st August 2007, 02:28 AM

Heres a good Cypress

YouTube - cypress pine

pomme · 1st September 2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by a_lopa

Heres a good Cypress

YouTube - cypress pine

lol
i agree

TREE-SURFER · 2nd September 2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pomme

lol
i agree

Here's another 1.

Ekka · 2nd September 2007, 05:53 AM

OK, not many here.

Why do they suck so much those trees?

mdvaden · 2nd September 2007, 07:45 AM

Who knows why I didn't photograph the largest Monterey cypress in Oregon this weekend - also one of the largest in the country. Here's a page about it (not it specifically, but its kind ) - just one of the first pages I glanced at..

eNature: FieldGuides: Species Detail

They seem to do marvelously over here, and the form is among the more interesting to look at.

As far as arboretums in general, I read an article about forests in the paper yesterday that had some interesting stuff about fires and plants. I'm going to condense the "highlights" to a few paragraphs on my forestry blog later today...

Forest and Forestry related page

I'm going to add extra comments with dates from now on.

Anyhow, a quick comment: the forest soil man, said that certain trees and shrubs help to fix nitrogen and are beneficial for other trees. I'm beginning to think that maybe a good thing for arboretums is to plant shrubs under imported trees, that are found under those trees. As long as they don't become invasive.

TREE-SURFER · 2nd September 2007, 10:10 AM

MDV, how tall is the biggest monterey in Oregon.

I took these two Macrocarpa down a few months ago, the tallest being 92 feet.

mdvaden · 2nd September 2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TREE-SURFER

[IMG]httMDV, how tall is the biggest monterey in Oregon.
I took these two Macrocarpa down a few months ago, the tallest being 92 feet.

I'll see if I can find a full-tree image. There is one even wider by a foot in California, but have not seen it. For Oregon, go to this page...

Oregon.com - Oregon Coast Heritage Trees

Click on the Monterey cypress photo to get a bigger image. Note how large the trunk is compared to the table and chairs in front.

EDIT... Found a page with the feet....

ChampionTreesReport

Another page I found, says that a Mr. "Blake" planted the tree at his 1850s home there by Brookings, Oregon.

One golf course image shows trees very similar in form to the big ones on our coast...

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/images/CP17t.jpg

See golfers for size comparison. The branch / leader stucture near brookings looks almost the same, but is has more foliage out on the limbs and looks greener.

TREE-SURFER · 2nd September 2007, 04:34 PM

The only real size comparison of the two trunks is this photo.The customer wanted all the trunk cut into rings. What a job.

mdvaden · 2nd September 2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TREE-SURFER

The only real size comparison of the two trunks is this photo.The customer wanted all the trunk cut into rings. What a job.

Lots of cutting.

Tall, but the size of one big branch of the one in Brookings

TrevMcRev · 3rd September 2007, 04:04 AM

Check out this Avenue of Monterey Cypress we cleaned up.

This one was a decent size

This one even bigger

Ekka · 3rd September 2007, 04:08 AM

Look good to me, so why do people not like them?

Sean Freeman · 3rd September 2007, 06:24 AM

Awesome pics again Trev I'd classify those as Significant Trees no doubt about it.

TREE-SURFER · 3rd September 2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

Look good to me, so why do people not like them?

They are just horrible to work with. You need to clean your saw with methylated spirits after cutting them. And they are just down right dangerous when they get any decent size to them, if there are any high winds in your area that has macro's, not very well rooted.

Ekka · 4th September 2007, 12:27 AM

Oh yeah, the glue like sticky resin, that sucks.

Are they generally a messy tree that needs dead wooding and regular grooming?

30th August 2007, 03:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sequoia I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Switzerland z8 Posts: 3	Conifers and especially Cupressus As I am new here, I think it could be ok to tell you what are my main interests. Although living in Switzerland, I am caring about an arboretum dedicated to conifers in the South of France. It is not just to plant one tree of one species, but small groves. Several exotic trees planted in the region for timber are regenerating quite easily. After we experienced several dry Summers in a row, I am concentrating now on species adapted to that climate change, and especially on the genus Cupressus. I started a Cupressus Conservation Project after observing that some populations are under a constant threat in the wild. In the arboretum, many species adapted to drought are thriving. I am always in need of help if anyone lives close to such populations of Cypresses or will travel close to them (photos, cones, seeds, report,...). As I can see that there are several participants in this forum living in Australia. Unfortunately Australian conifers are difficult to grow in the arboretum. Or the Winter is too cold (-10?C), for instance for Callitris and Actinostrobus species, or the Summer is too dry, for instance for the Tasmanian conifers. So far I could only maintain an Athrotaxis selaginoides in the garden, where watering is always possible in Summer. Best wishes, Sequoia

31st August 2007, 02:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 877	Heres a good Cypress YouTube - cypress pine __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

2nd September 2007, 05:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: Conifers and especially Cupressus OK, not many here. Why do they suck so much those trees? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

2nd September 2007, 07:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
mdvaden Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 543	Re: Conifers and especially Cupressus Who knows why I didn't photograph the largest Monterey cypress in Oregon this weekend - also one of the largest in the country. Here's a page about it (not it specifically, but its kind ) - just one of the first pages I glanced at.. eNature: FieldGuides: Species Detail They seem to do marvelously over here, and the form is among the more interesting to look at. As far as arboretums in general, I read an article about forests in the paper yesterday that had some interesting stuff about fires and plants. I'm going to condense the "highlights" to a few paragraphs on my forestry blog later today... Forest and Forestry related page I'm going to add extra comments with dates from now on. Anyhow, a quick comment: the forest soil man, said that certain trees and shrubs help to fix nitrogen and are beneficial for other trees. I'm beginning to think that maybe a good thing for arboretums is to plant shrubs under imported trees, that are found under those trees. As long as they don't become invasive. __________________ ____________________________________ Grove of Redwood TITANS Oregon BIGOOT trap Last edited by mdvaden : 2nd September 2007 at 10:25 AM.

3rd September 2007, 04:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 734	Re: Conifers and especially Cupressus Check out this Avenue of Monterey Cypress we cleaned up. This one was a decent size This one even bigger __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

3rd September 2007, 04:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: Conifers and especially Cupressus Look good to me, so why do people not like them? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd September 2007, 06:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Conifers and especially Cupressus Awesome pics again Trev I'd classify those as Significant Trees no doubt about it. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

4th September 2007, 12:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: Conifers and especially Cupressus Oh yeah, the glue like sticky resin, that sucks. Are they generally a messy tree that needs dead wooding and regular grooming? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

4th September 2007, 01:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
pomme Semi-mature vigorous tree