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Old 7th May 2008, 01:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Concerned for our industry RE Training, AUSTRALIA

Ok first off sorry if this sounds a little but it really annoys me.

The local TAFE is pumping out "Arborists" at a phenomenal rate, the quality of the training is very poor in my opinion. one of the problems seams to be that the training can now be done on site! There is no need for students to come to classes.

It wasn’t that long ago that i did my training at a university. The training was excellent, Training and testing was rigorous and those that past came out experts. That particular uni is no longer providing arb training, im not sure why, Iv heard lots of rumours.

The assessment criteria for cert 2 cert 3 and cert 4 in arboriculture have been changed and dulled down. so its not entirely TAFE's fault.

I would like to know if this is unique to my area or a common issue?

Is it that the TAFE colleges need to make money or at least break even?

When I ask questions at TAFE i am told that its “What industry wants” and TAFE provides what the industry wants.

I am concerned that the industry will suffer in the long run!
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Old 7th May 2008, 02:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Concerned for our industry RE Training, AUSTRALIA

From what you have wrote I would say you are referring to Victoria, Burnley. I hear Melbourne Institute Technology is doing the courses instead.

Well, there's the AQF for training but mostly anywhere beyond Level 3 is assessment only no actual teaching, in arb that is.... however some places might run a course for level 4 etc if numbers suffice.

Who gives a shit anyway, any idiot with a saw is your competitor and this will never be a registered licenced trade so the next Islander off the boat with a Bunnings Poulan wild thing will cut the ass out of your business.

Your orgs have let you down, your shiny asses too. Studying something reputable would be wiser.

I heard that the new COPS coming out of NSW is going to introduce mandatory risk/Hazard assessments at the quote, retainable for 7 years along with quote, regardless if you get or do the job. So many geniuses eh.

You know there's a difference between a desk jockey and a shiny ass dont you?

Difference between a desk jockey and a shiny ass:- At least the desk jockey has industry experience (most likely forgotten though) but a shiny ass never worked a day in their life but thinks the sun shines out of it's ass.

Yes the industry and what industry doesn't want people NOW, like a pizza order slide down the fireman pole and deliver ... BAM, Perfecto crust arbo in 5 mins flat!

Other trades suffering same, was rumour (could be fact) of 18month apprenticeships, yeah, cabinet makers, carpenters and mechanics pumped out in 18 months ... they're the dumb ones though coz the intelligent arbos can be delivered quicker than a perfecto from Pizza Hut.

Yes, what industry demands is always a good indicator of what to bend over for. Sort or adds a new concept to LEADERSHIP doesn't it.
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