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Old 28th January 2008, 08:54 AM   #61
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That is a very good point well made Guy, with such codominance it is always better (if you can convince the client) to reduce rather than remove in terms of inducing the most effective defence physically and chemically with the remaining tissues. Just cutting the limb off is not going to get that longer term result.
Clearly what would be great if unrealistic would be some long term dissections of various codominants with different approaches taken, ideally same species age etc..
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Clearly what would be great if unrealistic would be some long term dissections of various codominants with different approaches taken, ideally same species age etc..
Might not be that unrealistic; lots of pruning studies are underway. i'll be seeing Ed Gilman wednesday; we'll see if that type of thing might fit on his team's plate.

Ozinus suggested I post some pics of Acer rubrum; not sure these are the kind of "inverted collar" he talked about. They are typical codom unions on that species--no collar, best reduced, but at this young age the wounds should close w little problem (except crown asymmetry).

I heard a talk last week on pruning, given by a fellow from Ohio State U. He first strongly recommended Gilman's book; shortly after he railed against reducing branches, saying it was always a bad idea. I asked him about subordination and he looked confused--it was apparent that he had not read the book he so strongly spoke of.

So Sean it seems that the clients are not the only ones we need to educate...
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Old 28th January 2008, 09:37 AM   #63
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It would be nice to see a tool or some other way of identifying scale on the Cinnamomum because this cut may not be as precious as we are describing.
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Don't you hate it when some clever bugger points out that you didn't actually read what you said you did

Nice one Guy that put a smile on my face, hey it would be great if Ed Gilman (or his team) were to take on that idea.....keep me in the loop...maybe some Oz data could be of use
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Hmmmm the thin white line, the thin red line or the thin purple line.

Hi gents I went back to the tree and had another look, then I checked pics attached, and guess what I came to - Logic and Instinct.

Logically I reckon based on the photograph of the final cut that the bottom side of my cut is out by 1 mm.

Based on the red/purple lines I see the end product as a flush cut.
(In truth if the cut had been any deeper it would have been larger)

However the tree spoke (instinct heard) the cut is fine, I would eat of that cut, I would make love on that cut.

Photographs are flat, reality is curved...

Regardless it is been fun.

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So many lines so many confused.

Anyway,

I have managed to get the overall picture, before and after.

Note the red lines, see, this is why tree work is so much like real trades where near enough isn't good enough.

The red lines an red quotes are from me

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Yeah but i'd still eat of it...........
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LOL, many would.
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Photographs are flat, reality is curved...

Regardless it is been fun.
O yeah.

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