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gavin160

hi guys
ive just been reading a old posting from a guy called anton... do you remember?
not qualified not insured and no exsperience and worst of all tackling 40ft sycamores with no ppe,phone cables,etc

how can some of you give this boy advice other than to leave it to the pros.
the only guy who did was here in england...
now i respect all in our profesion but have none zero for the cowboys who either kill themselves or damage our profesion.
now get real our job is DANGEROUS

Garry Brockley

If you look around this site, there is a definite emphasis on training and further education in the field of tree care and maintenance. on most posts you will
see the words "get in a professional arborist to asses the tree" ect.

Trolls spend their time winding people up and we often bite but we all live and learn so lets leave it at that.
Take a look at post #9 onwards they all state to get training don't touch that job you have no experience. Ekka was helping out someone who he thought was starting out trimming the odd shrub ect but once it went further it changed to get training let the pros do it.

The advice given out on here is not law it's just that, advice and can be taken or not, i think the advice on here comes accross as balanced and informative.
There will be the odd indiscretion, thats true, but that can be expected on a site where this many people come together and it is hard to tell exactly what people mean by some words on a screen, things can get misread/ misinterpreted but there is a good balance of people to put things right if anyone gets it wrong.
and im probably going to get a roasting for biting here but there goes.

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gavin160

hi galbee
yeah seek a profesional does pop up a lot, just hope that antons ok
if he is i hope he has been bitten by the tree bug and got himself qualified.
we all look at past adventures and think ishould have this this or needed that
but as long as we get through it we learn.exsperience is everything but you need to do it to get it
just gets a little anoying when you see some major hacks working in your area .

Eric Frei

You need to check out a bloke I banned went by the name of Aerial, he wanted to show us all the best way to climb trees ... with ice axes!

He took out a telegraph pole on his first job!

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Garry Brockley

i joined just as aerial was in his throes of ice axe climbing and bull***t but i didn't know about the telegraph pole, jeeez that takes it to a whole new level of F***k up.
Yes we all deal with hacks in our day to day life, i had a gypsy tree bloke 22stone fat barstuard come past me today while parked at some traffic lights i was taking my kids to swim club, he stopped, hung out of his window swore alot and spat at the truck then more insults and drove off to the gypsy site
these are the hack i deal with daily not trained, dont care, uninsured, fly tippers.

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gavin160

your having a laugh
some people say they can do it but when it comes down to it they will either kill themselves or a groundy.

i used to climb trees verry well when i was a boy now im a man with young boys you realise the dangers of climbing, then you through in a 200t.for every big job done ithank the big guy up there when my feet touch the ground... inother words im never complacent and imalways glad to get home in one piece ps please excuse spelling/gramar...getting late over here
Gavin

gavin160

i would of foud it verry hard not to drag that Bas***d out his truck
no one fu**s with a dad with his kids.

Garry Brockley

couple of years ago they would have been picking up bits of his body from the road for days, but ive got to be good now, I dont want a police record to prevent me from leaving the country,I have got friends who have done the jump out lamp the guy then the next day their van and cars are torched with an extra visit to drive home the message at night mob handed. dont need that crap any more.

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gavin160

yeah know what you saying
had some gypsy tree surgeon up our lane the other week scoping the place
now theres only 5 houses up our country lane so i made sure everything was locked up chipper trailer etc still worried now.
it only takes one time to put me out of business.

what you got on this week then?
down here its open season on conifers bolloc*s ihate conifers could do with a bit more council work..

Garry Brockley

Local auth is my bread and butter esp winter this week though ive got a willow for powerline clearance then, church yard and cemetery tidy 30 trees from 25 ft to 100ft. crown raises, thinning out, NO TOPPING. trying out a new labourer steady week.
I know what your saying about conifers i hate them sticky,itchy chipper clogging dusty things that every one wants topping to half their height, a counterpart of mine has done six months with 99% conifer jobs and a couple of willows hes going stir crazy.

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gavin160

sounds like a good week ahead
how long you been going?
ive been doing it most my life but only on my own for 2-3years now
but doing ok some nice little contracts and some not so nice could do with some big trees thouigh they are what keeps the heart beating if you now what im saying.
just started to wangle in with a insurance company dealing with take downs due to subsidence etc.
it makes me laugh because they dont realy understand heave etc but if they want to pay me...

Garry Brockley

started 1996 built up a franchise for family, left due to a difference in opinion, started on my own attended a few courses, worked wth different companies as a subby and learned more from a park arborist, tried climbing and found i loved it, attended some more courses, worked on fruit trees first then worked my way up, i used to get other climbers in and quiz the hell out of them.(they loved that)
courses, worked, courses, worked read books ran teams for people and got here now. been seriously climbing for 6/7 years i sub climb for 5 different companies thats what this willow is,
i love big awkward dismantles it keeps the grey matter healthy.
insurance companies are great to work with, but you have to build the relationship with them, its hard but well worth it if you want a good rep and long term work.you can grow big on that work

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gavin160

thanks for the chat
will quiz you later but right now my bed is calling me and i dont want to piss the wife of you never now there may be a reason she needs me to come to bed.............i would be so lucky ahh
speak later, over and out have a good one
ps what is your name?

JohN Dee

Hey Gavin, welcome to our world :P

I know that your queries have been replied to already but I thought I would throw in my moneys worth...

From what I've noticed over my time in this community, we all deal with hacks everyday(one way or another), we all speak very low of hacks and we all hate them the same. But when one does come on here and post and start threads, I guess the members just want to help them out and help them to become better and efficient qualified/certified tree workers (I know that's my natural stance when they come posting on here). Ultimately from attempting that we are trying to raise our own standards by getting everyone on the same playing field. Get everyone on the same playing field and you get the correct prices that you quote for jobs, no unqualified uninsured low ballers, insurance premiums will go down and the consumer will understand and listen to you as an Arborist because they don't have any hacks murking the waters for them.

As for Anton, he was a troll (trouble maker on the internet). Took us on a ride and he got perma banned for it.

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