Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree?

JohN Dee · 26th September 2007, 09:58 PM

Well I just finished watching RSPCA Animal Rescue (Channel 7, 7:30pm Weds).... One of the rescues on their was the rescue of a crow.

A True Blue Tree Service (Situated in QLD) was the company that performed the rescue. (A True Blue Tree Service) - Only Internet linky they have.

Well as it went, they were called out for a rescue for a crow that got its feet tangled up in the nest on some twine and was dangling upside down. The tree (Euc. spp.) was over 30 metres tall... As the show called them: The Treeloppers turned up and went up this tree in gaffs, no ppe and also when they cut down the branch he one handed his 200.

The main point i'm getting at is he gaffed up the tree for an animal.. I know in the instance of a human rescue we don't consider the tree, but what is the legislation for a crow/animal?

And at the end of the show, they were such "good blokes" and rescued the crow for free. I wonder how many hundreds of quotes they're going to get for him gaffing up a tree, cutting one handed with NO PPE. After all that they put the crow down anyway.

I recorded it on my dvd recorder so I'll have the vid' up and going very soon.

Eric Frei · 26th September 2007, 10:53 PM

We were taught in human rescue spikes are OK of course as speed counts. But you still have PPE!

I never spiked the tree to rescue a r/c Cessna plane, might just be that's how they go about daily work ... you'd think with TV cameras on you you'd go by the book.

JohN Dee · 27th September 2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

you'd think with TV cameras on you you'd go by the book.

Bloody oath...

Jeff Darby · 27th September 2007, 08:03 AM

A temporary repreive for the Crow,( It was put down within hours)

Shame about not caring for their own safety :eg NO PPE

A sentence for the Tree from all the gaff tears! Fingers crossed the Tree can deal with it.

rangitata · 27th September 2007, 03:33 PM

I made the channel seven news a few years back doing a magpie rescue for the RSPCA.

I did the rescue gaff less though, kinda thought that with a film crew onsite it was imperitive to follow the rules. Seemed stupid not to with the general public (and possibly eagle eyed members of online forums) watching.

Mike

Eric Frei · 27th September 2007, 06:13 PM

Crikey mate, that wouldn't be real true blue though would it.

TrevMcRev · 27th September 2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

... you'd think with TV cameras on you you'd go by the book.

Trouble is some people have never heard of "the book"

rangitata · 28th September 2007, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Trouble is some people have never heard of "the book"

They know about the "book" all right. Its just a case of greed, speed and arrogance.

Ignorance is not a defence

Mike

TREE-SURFER · 28th September 2007, 10:52 AM

I have a system (right or wrong), for getting up there quick. set up your normal climbing line but thread through a pulley attached to another line. Throw up a throwbag and line, draw your other line over your now elevated position, and tie off to the 4X4 and get your groundy to drive off. you get one hell of a ride into the tree and get there damn fast in case of a rescue. Descend in the normal fashion.

Eric Frei · 28th September 2007, 03:52 PM

Oh, you mean like the Kanga Elevator System.

I do have a video.

11.2mb 2.11 minutes WMV featuring TimberBeast from Alaska!

Yeah, I miss that bugger, he visited in 2005, top Bloke.

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...otlocking2.wmv

TREE-SURFER · 29th September 2007, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Oh, you mean like the Kanga Elevator System.

Something like it. Instead of having the device in the tree, a rope goes up and over a limb/crotch, and you are attached with your normal system (as though it were set when you are at the top of the tree ) to the tail with a pulley backed up with a biner. The other end is then attached to 4X4 ( or kanga ). When all this is set up, your groundy takes off in the 4by.

Couldn't draw a Cat....

You can then descend as normal..

Eric Frei · 2nd October 2007, 05:05 PM

Oh, I see but you get rope burning crotch above.

In my method no rope burning crotch, but in emergency it might be OK to burn crotch.

JohN Dee · 9th April 2008, 09:20 PM

Hey hey, guess who I spotted on Animal rescue tonight...

They assisted in rescuing a black cat out of a previously topped and bushed up Turpentine. They own their own 18 metre bucket truck and are based in Mt Dandedong... lol.

Ace Tree Management, yas didn't get much of a plug except for the logo on the side door of your bucket truck.

Good stuff aye

, Did you make em' pay for the lift, Ace?

Eric Frei · 9th April 2008, 09:51 PM

Anyone tape it?

JohN Dee · 9th April 2008, 10:03 PM

I taped it on foxtel IQ, but only started after I saw the logo, nothing else to identify Ace from, from where I started recording. Plus I'd have to figure out how to move the stuff from the foxtel box to the comp

Ace Master · 9th April 2008, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohN Dee

Hey hey, guess who I spotted on Animal rescue tonight...

They assisted in rescuing a black cat out of a previously topped and bushed up Turpentine. They own their own 18 metre bucket truck and are based in Mt Dandedong... lol.

Ace Tree Management, yas didn't get much of a plug except for the logo on the side door of your bucket truck.

Good stuff aye

, Did you make em' pay for the lift, Ace?

yep thats right .....lol

JohN Dee
That was filmed last year before xmas.The local SES rang us up to help them get a cat out of a tree, we didn't know that the animal rescue was there until we arrived on site.No charge it was all for free and to see the our name and logo on TV thats priceless advertising.

I have a copy of it to.My phone hasn't stopped ring tonight .......lol.

Aerial · 24th April 2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohN Dee

I taped it on foxtel IQ, ... I'd have to figure out how to move the stuff from the foxtel box to the comp

Depending on whose equipment Foxtel are OEM'ing from for their cable box. If it has a firewire port and you have a Mac you can do it.

My cable provider uses the Motorola 6412 which has two firewire ports (one for each tuner). I put a $5 firewire cable between it and my Mac Mini and can record anything I can put on my HDTV to any of the Mini's hard drives.

Work around for Windows: Just put a digital video camera up in front of your TV, darken the room and record it. Use whatever Windows software works best for you to import it to your hard drive.

Upload it to U-tube and we all watch!

Aerial

sawsong · 24th April 2008, 10:14 PM

PCs can have firewire too. at least, all mine do, not just the powerbook

26th September 2007, 09:58 PM	#1
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? Well I just finished watching RSPCA Animal Rescue (Channel 7, 7:30pm Weds).... One of the rescues on their was the rescue of a crow. A True Blue Tree Service (Situated in QLD) was the company that performed the rescue. (A True Blue Tree Service) - Only Internet linky they have. Well as it went, they were called out for a rescue for a crow that got its feet tangled up in the nest on some twine and was dangling upside down. The tree (Euc. spp.) was over 30 metres tall... As the show called them: The Treeloppers turned up and went up this tree in gaffs, no ppe and also when they cut down the branch he one handed his 200. The main point i'm getting at is he gaffed up the tree for an animal.. I know in the instance of a human rescue we don't consider the tree, but what is the legislation for a crow/animal? And at the end of the show, they were such "good blokes" and rescued the crow for free. I wonder how many hundreds of quotes they're going to get for him gaffing up a tree, cutting one handed with NO PPE. After all that they put the crow down anyway. I recorded it on my dvd recorder so I'll have the vid' up and going very soon. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

26th September 2007, 10:53 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? We were taught in human rescue spikes are OK of course as speed counts. But you still have PPE! I never spiked the tree to rescue a r/c Cessna plane, might just be that's how they go about daily work ... you'd think with TV cameras on you you'd go by the book. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

27th September 2007, 08:03 AM	#4
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? A temporary repreive for the Crow,( It was put down within hours) Shame about not caring for their own safety :eg NO PPE A sentence for the Tree from all the gaff tears! Fingers crossed the Tree can deal with it. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

27th September 2007, 03:33 PM	#5
rangitata Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 56	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? I made the channel seven news a few years back doing a magpie rescue for the RSPCA. I did the rescue gaff less though, kinda thought that with a film crew onsite it was imperitive to follow the rules. Seemed stupid not to with the general public (and possibly eagle eyed members of online forums) watching. Mike

27th September 2007, 06:13 PM	#6
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? Crikey mate, that wouldn't be real true blue though would it. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th September 2007, 10:52 AM	#9
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? I have a system (right or wrong), for getting up there quick. set up your normal climbing line but thread through a pulley attached to another line. Throw up a throwbag and line, draw your other line over your now elevated position, and tie off to the 4X4 and get your groundy to drive off. you get one hell of a ride into the tree and get there damn fast in case of a rescue. Descend in the normal fashion. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

28th September 2007, 03:52 PM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? Oh, you mean like the Kanga Elevator System. I do have a video. 11.2mb 2.11 minutes WMV featuring TimberBeast from Alaska! Yeah, I miss that bugger, he visited in 2005, top Bloke. http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...otlocking2.wmv __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

2nd October 2007, 05:05 PM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? Oh, I see but you get rope burning crotch above. In my method no rope burning crotch, but in emergency it might be OK to burn crotch. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

9th April 2008, 09:20 PM	#13
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? Hey hey, guess who I spotted on Animal rescue tonight... They assisted in rescuing a black cat out of a previously topped and bushed up Turpentine. They own their own 18 metre bucket truck and are based in Mt Dandedong... lol. Ace Tree Management, yas didn't get much of a plug except for the logo on the side door of your bucket truck. Good stuff aye , Did you make em' pay for the lift, Ace? __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

9th April 2008, 09:51 PM	#14
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? Anyone tape it? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

9th April 2008, 10:03 PM	#15
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? I taped it on foxtel IQ, but only started after I saw the logo, nothing else to identify Ace from, from where I started recording. Plus I'd have to figure out how to move the stuff from the foxtel box to the comp __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

24th April 2008, 10:14 PM	#18
sawsong Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lincs/Leeds England Posts: 74	Re: Animal Rescue + Trees, do we consider the tree? PCs can have firewire too. at least, all mine do, not just the powerbook

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