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| Moderator - Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Came across this site today in a tab that someone else had left open with a Google search query. This guy is a serious wood worker and has collected and compiled a list of 81 Tree/Wood Facts that I found pretty interesting. I've extracted them from the site and posted them here for your ease of navigating, but feel free to visit his website theres heaps more cool looking info that I couldn't be bothered looking at right now >.> :P Quote:
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| Admin - Dip Arb & Hort & Seldom Wrong Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Dont try #55 at ya next BBQ!
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NOVA SCOTIA
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I heard on the radio the other day that there were some 33 million species on Earth. So little time, so much to kill. Bob Wulkowicz ![]() Zoos and museums; kind of hard to tell them apart these days. Bob Hefalump | |
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| Admin - Dip Arb & Hort & Seldom Wrong Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Yeah, like the Tasmanian's years ago here cut down the worlds tallest tree, taller than the redwoods! So they could measure it.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NW Spain
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Apparently they were not expecting that tree to exceed the age of Methuselah at all, and the decission to chop it came after all the available increment borers were "killed in action" and there was no other way to sample that one and little chances for further field inspections in upcoming years Only later it was realized the tree was a bit older than Methuselah. The corpse is yet in place. For many years later, he and others lobbied to get the whole population of those trees protected by the USA government, and now they are. And maybe within those still standing, there is an older one than Prometheus. The good thing is that no one will fell any to get to know it.
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia.
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland
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Hi! What an awesome post! Have you also heard about the The Whistler Tree? This great tree, the worlds oldest and largest cork oak, also magically captures our reverential respect and awe. Planted in 1783, and 225 years young, it was first harvested of its precious bark in 1820. Shorn every nine years since, it is the most productive cork oak tree on record, and is due to be harvested yet again in 2009, as anticipation and excitement grows in this vast open countryside. We wrote a post about the Whistler Tree and would love it if you guys could take a look at it and tell us what you think. Here's the permalink: From One Great Tree to Another?A Tribute to Conservation Wicanders Cork Oak Blog Thanks a lot! |
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| Sappling Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NW Spain
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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![]() It is a real shame that the cork oaks in Spain have been supplanted over recent decades by Eucalyptus plantations, not trying to suggest there is one single factor behind this (though human greed fits the bill nicely) decline in the demand for cork, rising demand for paper products, speed of growth therefore returns etc....To me the relative tolerances to fire between the two species has meant that production forests are vulnerable to a degree that was not really the case with the cork oaks.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NW Spain
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A treasure of an oak Remembers me to Its Majesty, some photos by my friend Pedro here, or alternatively at Daniel's. Preserving such trees (and as many cork oaks as possible) should be out of question. But...Quote:
![]() With the due respect, it sounds a bit like the myth of they replacing neverending native oak forests a bit more to the North. Which is not only an exaggeration, but also an interested lie. The native oak forests were largely gone after too many fleets built and sank during some 400 years and this was basically a huge shrubland. Both then and now, most tree planting tend to happen in as easy places as possible. As arborists you know that removing such giant trees to plant over something new is too costly if the prior crop was yielding any sort of profit. Quote:
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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Gus you are probably right that my perspective of spanish forestry is distorted by the info I have read from distant Oz....I'll certainly acceed to your greater local knowledge.... Quote:
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Personally I love Eucs, just don't get much of a kick out of looking at miles and lmiles of saplings destined for wood chip...but hey thats just me
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| Sappling Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NW Spain
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| Nah, Sean, it is all okay, I surely do not know it all, my only advantage is being a local and seeing local trends more easily. But you'd be surprised to see how the average Spaniard perspective on Spanish forestry is distorted the same way by the info they read too (if they read something besides sports and yellow press!). All in all, those wandering within the trees (both forests and tree crops) are small numbers!Now, having silvicultural preferences, that is totally normal and fully respectable There is always room for many different products from different tree types. And it yet happens around here, at least where rural communities still exist. Eucalypts are just some 2% of total acreage. And after +70 years of being grown for timber (wood chips or not) at some sizeable amount I see them as quite sustainable. Sustainability has to do with economics too. In fact, if there is no profit from some type of land use, either you have to input money from elsewhere, or that use becomes totally unsustainable no matter its social or environmental impact.
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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I agree with you Gus mixed land use is the very best outcome for everybody. Having land that is not "economically productive" is really important too, but I'd better make clear as to just what i mean by that. Whether it is hedgerows or ancient copses in the UK, or riparian buffers or vegetation corridors here in Oz, failure to recognise and protect sufficient areas of land and the vegetation communities that land supports, and the fauna that vegetation supports is critical to matters much more significant than the single farmers single bottom line $$'s. Some of these pockets or buffers do require some inputs, most just require to be left alone-totally left alone. That is often not possible due to the location of the parcel of land, some kind of management/fencing etc... is required. Looking again at land being managed for production...more and more farmers here in Oz are recognising the critical value to their own properties of conserving open Eucalypt woodland, sadaly not so much here in Queensland, but in NSW and Victoria, farmers groups, land conservation groups, ecologists, and agricultural extension services have made good progress in demonstrating the role this kind of vegetation community plays. The magic figure being banded around at the moment for the percentage of land required to maintain sustainable Open Eucalyptus woodland on commercial properties is 10-15%, of course the management programes that are implemented to integrate these covenant blocks (for want of a better title) vary some what with the particular circumstances of the farm, but some benchmark criteria apply to all. From the outside of the farm fence such blocks do appear non-productive, they may be fenced for long periods of the year with stock only permitted access at certain times, hard to fit the returns into an annual balance sheet, but for me people with annual balance sheets the only thing driving them won't last long. As usual wandered off the track somewhat, but Open Euc Woodland is an ecosystem under immense pressure here, it is crucial to the health of our native shrub and grassy understorey plant communities. Those linkages once broken are almost impossible to rebuild. The longer I live here in Oz the more I fall in love with the native ecosystems that defy the odds persisting despite the harsh climate, the natural and human disasters..flood drought and fire. Massive Gum trees scattered through open shrub and grassy understoreys with dense green ribbons of growth along gulleys and creeks, they stir me now as much as the venerable Oaks of the UK.
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I read figures somewhere that Australia 200 years ago only had around 6% tree coverage and now is down to 3%. Most of it is desert.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NW Spain
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I find this very sensible, and a good way to try to preserve not only significant biodiversity landmarks that might exist within private property, but also to try to preserve patches of the native ecosystems at a landscape level. But I find it useful to consider then that any input or cost of opportunity bears an associated financial cost Some people try to promote the idea that "conservation pays". I say, "conservation costs". But I am not questioning its need at all.Quote:
But if the benefits of keeping those blocks "non productive" are positive social and environmental impacts for the whole of Australia... then the whole of Australia (Hello Mr. Rudd ) should bear with at least some of those costs. Not just the farmers should, independently of their degree of worry for annual balance sheets as main factor for decission taking.
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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There are ways to dedicate land as environmental covenant it differs in each state, has different labels and some bodies manage it more effectively and efficiently than others.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia
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All wood burns the same amount of time per kg/ton...
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| Sappling Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Wow! Fun to read the 81 tree facts! For those who want to go see Methuselah (Fact # 26), I think it's in the White Mountains of eastern California. Great Basin National Park is in eastern Nevada. Check out: Methuselah - The World's Oldest Tree - Guinness World Records on Waymarking.com |
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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great list,thanks John.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: united states
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great stuff although the math conversion from tons to pounds in #64 is a tad off.
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