Tree ID please

Sean Freeman · 20th April 2008, 06:07 PM

Looking for help finding the ID for this street tree in Sydney..thought I would be able to get it myself but i was wrong

only have three pics sorry no bark shots....even suggestions for the genus would be good!

Eric Frei · 20th April 2008, 06:40 PM

LOL

See what happens we you leave home.

Are they lobed, like the bigger leaves, like the Brachychiton acerfolius ... are you sure that aint some sort of fig?

Eric Frei · 20th April 2008, 06:42 PM

It's not a candlenut tree is it?

candle nut tree - Google Image Search

Sean Freeman · 20th April 2008, 06:53 PM

No not Aleurites moluccana, though the leaf does have some similarities....don't think its a fig either....I thought when I first saw it "oh that'll be easy to id its so different" yeah right!
I'm thinking maybe in Magnoliaceae, but really don't know.

Eric Frei · 20th April 2008, 07:08 PM

Sean

Look thru here. might help

Google Image Result for http://homepage2.nifty.com/chigyoraku/3lobed02.jpeg

Sean Freeman · 20th April 2008, 07:16 PM

That's a nice little site Eric, I wish it were an Acer (my dads fav trees) but the fruit are wrong.

Victor Lindsay · 20th April 2008, 11:03 PM

my first impression was Fig.

Sean Freeman · 20th April 2008, 11:24 PM

Well the leaf size would fit, but the fruit are not right for a fig (sadly)

blair duncanson · 20th April 2008, 11:46 PM

Var of Liriodendron ?? Leaves perhaps too lobed? What dimensions were the tree Sean?

Sean Freeman · 21st April 2008, 12:15 AM

Well remember its a street tree in inner Sydney...so has been cut a few times all around..
Height 6m radial spread 3m

philinsydney · 21st April 2008, 07:30 PM

I believe mulberries have lobed leaves.

Eric Frei · 21st April 2008, 09:12 PM

Yeah but the fruit is wrong and Sean's from mulberry territory, he'd pick them out of a line up easy.

I'm stuffed, I searched, I tried but I give up.

This isi when you wander around the Botanic Gardens with a camera. LOL

Sean Freeman · 21st April 2008, 10:33 PM

Me too...its driving me nuts not knowing what it is!
But at least people here have a shot...put the pics up elsewhere with no attempts at all!!!
Then again maybe everyone else is busy doing their own work. Have a few other avenues left and will let you know if I get the ID.

quercus · 21st April 2008, 10:35 PM

My first impression was some kind of Ficus too, but I thought I'd better STFU because I didn't know for sure. I know I've seen those leaves before but I can't really say where that was. Pitty you can't collect a few leaves and fruit samples and take a shot of them to post them here.
I've searched my rather impressive database of trees and can't find anything with resemblance to these ones.
But I'm still not giving up.

Eric Frei · 21st April 2008, 10:42 PM

Now tell me, how do you organised a PC pic database of trees, coz mines a flamin mess and 100gig of pics takes a while to hunt stuff down.

quercus · 21st April 2008, 11:01 PM

just folders and files actually... arranged by topic and species...

Treelore · 22nd April 2008, 03:47 AM

try this on for size eric and see if you can do something like this. I have approached councils organizations and unis none are interested.

UConn Plant Database Main Page.htm

blair duncanson · 22nd April 2008, 06:18 AM

The foliage does remind me of something other than Ficus and liriodendron, it was a variety of Fatsia, found indoors back home, med shrub,,??? Stuck......

TreeDimensional · 22nd April 2008, 06:40 AM

At the risk of sounding like an idiot, is there a possibility that this could be some sort of hybrid tree? Sorry I can't help, just spit-balling here!

blair duncanson · 22nd April 2008, 10:10 AM

tetrapanax...???

Sean Freeman · 22nd April 2008, 02:15 PM

No not that Blair, the leaf form is not as seperated, and the flowers/seed not right.....there are so many trees that come close based soley on leaf form, but the flowers/seed are the thing that initially made me feel like it would be an easy task to ID but have in actual fact proved to be the biggest obstical!!!! Thankyou for keeping on trying though.

Sean Freeman · 27th April 2008, 06:23 PM

Well I am so relieved to be able to tell you all that I finally worked out what my mystery Sydney tree was....Sterculia plantanifolia Chinese parasol/varnish tree.

(and thanks to all who helped, in the end it was as Eric suggested the walk through our botanical gardens that stimulated the grey matter (does it all the time no matter what the problem!!!

) didn;t find that tree but saw another Sterculia so similar just knew it had to be in the same genus.

TrevMcRev · 28th April 2008, 12:07 AM

blair duncanson · 28th April 2008, 02:53 AM

Good news. Is that the tree that has that irritating sap?

Eric Frei · 28th April 2008, 10:45 AM

Good one, add that to the list of "never seen" for me.

newguy18 · 29th April 2008, 12:01 AM

Glad to hear you figured it out Sean.

20th April 2008, 06:07 PM	#1
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Tree ID please Looking for help finding the ID for this street tree in Sydney..thought I would be able to get it myself but i was wrong only have three pics sorry no bark shots....even suggestions for the genus would be good!

20th April 2008, 06:40 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,819	Re: Tree ID please LOL See what happens we you leave home. Are they lobed, like the bigger leaves, like the Brachychiton acerfolius ... are you sure that aint some sort of fig? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

20th April 2008, 06:42 PM	#3
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,819	Re: Tree ID please It's not a candlenut tree is it? candle nut tree - Google Image Search __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

20th April 2008, 06:53 PM	#4
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please No not Aleurites moluccana, though the leaf does have some similarities....don't think its a fig either....I thought when I first saw it "oh that'll be easy to id its so different" yeah right! I'm thinking maybe in Magnoliaceae, but really don't know.

20th April 2008, 07:08 PM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,819	Re: Tree ID please Sean Look thru here. might help Google Image Result for http://homepage2.nifty.com/chigyoraku/3lobed02.jpeg __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

20th April 2008, 07:16 PM	#6
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please That's a nice little site Eric, I wish it were an Acer (my dads fav trees) but the fruit are wrong.

20th April 2008, 11:03 PM	#7
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 421	Re: Tree ID please my first impression was Fig.

20th April 2008, 11:24 PM	#8
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please Well the leaf size would fit, but the fruit are not right for a fig (sadly)

20th April 2008, 11:46 PM	#9
blair duncanson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: argyll Posts: 139	Re: Tree ID please Var of Liriodendron ?? Leaves perhaps too lobed? What dimensions were the tree Sean?

21st April 2008, 12:15 AM	#10
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please Well remember its a street tree in inner Sydney...so has been cut a few times all around.. Height 6m radial spread 3m

21st April 2008, 07:30 PM	#11
philinsydney Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 110	Re: Tree ID please I believe mulberries have lobed leaves.

21st April 2008, 09:12 PM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,819	Re: Tree ID please Yeah but the fruit is wrong and Sean's from mulberry territory, he'd pick them out of a line up easy. I'm stuffed, I searched, I tried but I give up. This isi when you wander around the Botanic Gardens with a camera. LOL __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

21st April 2008, 10:33 PM	#13
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please Me too...its driving me nuts not knowing what it is! But at least people here have a shot...put the pics up elsewhere with no attempts at all!!! Then again maybe everyone else is busy doing their own work. Have a few other avenues left and will let you know if I get the ID.

21st April 2008, 10:35 PM	#14
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 368	Re: Tree ID please My first impression was some kind of Ficus too, but I thought I'd better STFU because I didn't know for sure. I know I've seen those leaves before but I can't really say where that was. Pitty you can't collect a few leaves and fruit samples and take a shot of them to post them here. I've searched my rather impressive database of trees and can't find anything with resemblance to these ones. But I'm still not giving up.

21st April 2008, 10:42 PM	#15
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,819	Re: Tree ID please Now tell me, how do you organised a PC pic database of trees, coz mines a flamin mess and 100gig of pics takes a while to hunt stuff down. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

21st April 2008, 11:01 PM	#16
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 368	Re: Tree ID please just folders and files actually... arranged by topic and species...

22nd April 2008, 03:47 AM	#17
Treelore Former Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 104	Re: Tree ID please try this on for size eric and see if you can do something like this. I have approached councils organizations and unis none are interested. UConn Plant Database Main Page.htm

22nd April 2008, 06:18 AM	#18
blair duncanson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: argyll Posts: 139	Re: Tree ID please The foliage does remind me of something other than Ficus and liriodendron, it was a variety of Fatsia, found indoors back home, med shrub,,??? Stuck......

22nd April 2008, 06:40 AM	#19
TreeDimensional Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 426	Re: Tree ID please At the risk of sounding like an idiot, is there a possibility that this could be some sort of hybrid tree? Sorry I can't help, just spit-balling here! Last edited by TreeDimensional; 22nd April 2008 at 06:41 AM. Reason: sp.

22nd April 2008, 10:10 AM	#20
blair duncanson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: argyll Posts: 139	Re: Tree ID please tetrapanax...???

22nd April 2008, 02:15 PM	#21
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please No not that Blair, the leaf form is not as seperated, and the flowers/seed not right.....there are so many trees that come close based soley on leaf form, but the flowers/seed are the thing that initially made me feel like it would be an easy task to ID but have in actual fact proved to be the biggest obstical!!!! Thankyou for keeping on trying though.

27th April 2008, 06:23 PM	#22
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Tree ID please Well I am so relieved to be able to tell you all that I finally worked out what my mystery Sydney tree was....Sterculia plantanifolia Chinese parasol/varnish tree. (and thanks to all who helped, in the end it was as Eric suggested the walk through our botanical gardens that stimulated the grey matter (does it all the time no matter what the problem!!!) didn;t find that tree but saw another Sterculia so similar just knew it had to be in the same genus.

28th April 2008, 12:07 AM	#23
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Tree ID please

28th April 2008, 02:53 AM	#24
blair duncanson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: argyll Posts: 139	Re: Tree ID please Good news. Is that the tree that has that irritating sap?

28th April 2008, 10:45 AM	#25
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,819	Re: Tree ID please Good one, add that to the list of "never seen" for me. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

29th April 2008, 12:01 AM	#26
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Tree ID please Glad to hear you figured it out Sean. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

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