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TrevMcRev · 2nd March 2007, 09:54 PM

Lets start with a tree known as "The Big Tree" Located in the Melba Gully State Park in South West Victoria. Shes something like 30m circ. at the base. Top has been blown out but still battling on. When you look up through the cavity you see daylight out the top. This would have stood double the height of the rest of the forest before losing its head.

Eric Frei · 2nd March 2007, 10:15 PM

That's huge, what sort of tree is it?

TrevMcRev · 2nd March 2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

That's huge, what sort of tree is it?

A Mountain Ash X Stringybark Messmate Hybrid known locally as an Otway Messmate. Over 300 years old.

Eric Frei · 2nd March 2007, 11:33 PM

See, the tallest trees aren't in jungle or tropical rainforests they're in temperate forests where seasons are more defined with a dormancy period.

TreeCo · 3rd March 2007, 01:47 AM

Great photos Trev. That's a monster tree. It looks like photos from the Pacific N/W USA.

Mike Poor · 3rd March 2007, 06:44 AM

What's the genus name for Mountain Ash? Here what we call mt. ash the genus is Sorbus and i know that lg. tree isn't Sorbus!

Eric Frei · 3rd March 2007, 08:34 AM

Our Mountain Ash is different, it's a Euc regnans. Bloody big still. In fact it was the tallest tree in the world till some genius back in the early 1900's cut it down to measure it. lol

Tasmanian's, what did you expect.

They got rid of all the Tasmanian Tigers, the biggest tree and I'll leave the other one alone.

Sean Freeman · 3rd March 2007, 01:46 PM

Beautiful Trev, really beautiful and that platform they built great work eliminate soil compaction but still let people touch the tree, really, really beautiful.

SF

TrevMcRev · 3rd March 2007, 05:35 PM

Sorry, no before shot. Too busy getting organised

Anyway, heres the finished job. Crown Reduction Pruning on a spreading Liquidambar.

And a close up of yours truly!

I like jobs like this

Eric Frei · 3rd March 2007, 07:37 PM

Is that the first time for that tree?

How long do you reckon before it will need doing again?

We got them up here and they a really vigorous, that one is only maybe half size to what they can get.

Sean Freeman · 3rd March 2007, 07:42 PM

Those kinds of jobs are few and far between up here, and only come after much effort. Is your market better vis an appreciation of what arboriculture and Arborists can offer?

SF

Eric Frei · 3rd March 2007, 07:49 PM

Hey Boa, I can honestly say that in almost 10 years I have never done a proper all round reduction like that for anyone.

Around here it would have most likely been a topping, here's a pic of a Liquid Amber not far away and it shows how we treat ours .... Hey, I didn't do it either.

Sean Freeman · 3rd March 2007, 08:06 PM

Hey Ekka, check this I think the same mob did similar work up here, the tree is a Terminalia muelleri the brief was a reduction prune of one of the co-dominants..I told council I could climb up and remove timber about the diameter of my thumb..

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The photos tell the tale, quess council didn't think much of my recomendation eh?

Why the reduction home owner concerned about the chance of loosing branches in a storm....no chance of that now, but just you wait in 12 months time

SF

TREE-SURFER · 3rd March 2007, 08:16 PM

OMG!!! Ekka, that is bad. Alright, it's a bit close to the house, but from the piccy, couldn't they have just removed the lower limbs and drop crotched the crown. (How far away are those supply lines?) It could only have been another 15foot or so higher, before it was trashed, hay?
I could post a load more piccy's of SH1t work like that from over here. But I get so P'd Off with having to look at them.

Drouin Tree Service · 3rd March 2007, 08:49 PM

Toorak a good suburb to be getting some work!

TrevMcRev · 4th March 2007, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Is that the first time for that tree?

How long do you reckon before it will need doing again?

We got them up here and they a really vigorous, that one is only maybe half size to what they can get.

Yep 1st real prune for that one. About a 4-7 year cycle will manage the canopy at about where it is now. This one was not so tall, but big spread.

TrevMcRev · 4th March 2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa07

Those kinds of jobs are few and far between up here, and only come after much effort. Is your market better vis an appreciation of what arboriculture and Arborists can offer?

SF

I do about 50/50 this sort of work and removal work. It takes some effort to educate the clients but there are more & more getting aware of the benefits of Arborists, especially in the wealthier areas. This was Toorak!
Lots of older trees around, lopped 10-20 years ago. Less of it now due to council regs dont allow it. So only work done illeagally without permits, or on smaller trees undersize of council requirements get topped now. See my posts in the Council Regs section for our local specs, but generally anything over 110cm trunk circ. @ base, or 45-50cm dia @ 1-1.5m depending on which council. Removals or any pruning, some exceptions.

Sean Freeman · 4th March 2007, 10:22 AM

Beginning to really understand why Dan Thomas moved down there from Brissy, half your luck Trev would be a God send for me up here, the old forehead is pretty sore let me tell you.

SF

Eric Frei · 4th March 2007, 10:36 AM

50% of your work is stuff like that, that's great.

About the only consistent pruning you'd get here (if ya cheap) is cleaning those stupid palms.

95%+ is TD's here. I haven't used my foot assist over a year now! Big shot is still the same rubber after 6 years. lol

TrevMcRev · 5th March 2007, 08:36 PM

Not So Nice Neighbours!

Homeowner: " So, what do you think is wrong with my Poplar tree?"

Arborist: Looks like what we have here is a case of Bosch Borer.

Homeowner: "Bosch Borer, what on earth is that?"

Arborist: Well, it's similar to the Makita Borer, and usually caused by the Bunnings Beetle. Lets have a closer look shall we.........
Yep, as i suspected, look at these borer holes, Bosch Borer allright.

Homeowner: " So how did this happen"

Arborist: Well the cunning little beetle that resides nextdoor went down to Bunnings and bought a Bosch drill and some round-up. Then during the night the beetle bores into the tree and injects its toxic venom. This beetle was so clever he even tried to fill the holes with dirt.

Eric Frei · 5th March 2007, 08:44 PM

See, again, right on the fence-line.

People get the shits with that big time, you want a tree then keep it in your own yard mate.

Why have such a large tree so close to the fence in the first place?

Although it's unacceptable to poison your neibs tree it is a solution that's very effective and darn hard to prosecute over.

I know one customer dug down and found the roots of the neibs gum. He traced the root right down to these tiny little feeder hairy roots. (he was getting his house underpinned)

He got a small bottle and filled it with round-up solution, nipped the end of the root off and the tree sucked it up good. When the bottle was empty he'd refill it. The bottle was maybe only 150ml medicine bottle. This went on for a week, within 4 weeks that entire 80' gum was dead, not a leaf on it.

TrevMcRev · 5th March 2007, 09:17 PM

This big euc uop in the dandenongs had tell tale bracket fungi indicating heartwood rot.
Had to go. They've got plenty of other trees, although some are not much better. Big log hit the deck pretty hard n nearly took off down the hill.

Check it out

Eric Frei · 5th March 2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Big log hit the deck pretty hard n nearly took off down the hill.

Where?

Sean Freeman · 5th March 2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

See, again, right on the fence-line.

People get the shits with that big time, you want a tree then keep it in your own yard mate.

Why have such a large tree so close to the fence in the first place?

Although it's unacceptable to poison your neibs tree it is a solution that's very effective and darn hard to prosecute over.

I know one customer dug down and found the roots of the neibs gum. He traced the root right down to these tiny little feeder hairy roots. (he was getting his house underpinned)

He got a small bottle and filled it with round-up solution, nipped the end of the root off and the tree sucked it up good. When the bottle was empty he'd refill it. The bottle was maybe only 150ml medicine bottle. This went on for a week, within 4 weeks that entire 80' gum was dead, not a leaf on it.

All this talk of dark actions on the fence lines reminds me of one of my earlier posts here when I talked about a bushy and his little figs with the tell tale key hole spray pattern from over the fence well finally tracked down the photos. Whats funny is not the actions but how they thought they wouldn't be found out..

..not to get taken to court rather just to get taken round the back and ..well you get the idea

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now I know they would have grown into very big fig trees, and whilst I wouldn't mind that myself I do understand others feeling a bit unhappy, but honestly there are better ways....

SF

Sean Freeman · 5th March 2007, 09:31 PM

Christ Trev you climb that sucker after seeing those brackets!!!

Not sure I would have.

Tell me you sounded it or cored it or something.

SF

TrevMcRev · 5th March 2007, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Where?

The flat area where the log was dropped was all there was. Outsde of that, to the left, and past that ol shed it drops away pretty steep. When it hit the deck it bounced forward about 10 feet.

TrevMcRev · 5th March 2007, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa07

Christ Trev you climb that sucker after seeing those brackets!!!

Not sure I would have.

Tell me you sounded it or cored it or something.SF

A calculated risk i guess. This was up in the mountains. No access for towers or cranes or any thing. Nothing would have reached it from the street. Tree was 170 foot and in back yard. Need a four wheel drive to get to their house. My ute couldnt even make it all the way up the hill. We left every thing cut up onsite. Lucky coz our truck n chipper wouldnt get near this place. Minimal rigging was done to not overload things. Most branches were just dropped and all wood felled in sections.
A bit sketchy...yes. Scary when you cut it up and see it was that bad.

Eric Frei · 5th March 2007, 10:30 PM

But as you climb and cut you feel a little more confident as you are reducing the weight, just keep the wobble factor down.

Was a doozy, 170', atleast those regnans grow straight up not gnarl out everywhere.

Awesome job, darn great leaving a mess too.

TrevMcRev · 1st April 2007, 07:56 PM

Heres a Radiata Pine we removed on Saturday. At a Preschool, beside 66KV powerlines, but well clear. Every branch was rigged. Done by 1pm.

Eric Frei · 1st April 2007, 09:14 PM

The ever reliable and safe pine eh?

Just that bloody resin gets like glue.

So did you rig on the way up, or go up and set your blocks, or natural crotch or what?

I thought I'd see a GRCS or equivalent strapped to that. Imagine that, if you cleared a track on the way up it would have been slew and winch heaven.

And the chippers nice and close, they're the good jobs mate, how'd you go with the log? Chip it? Bin it? Slab it?

2nd March 2007, 09:54 PM	#1
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Total Tree Care's picture gallery Lets start with a tree known as "The Big Tree" Located in the Melba Gully State Park in South West Victoria. Shes something like 30m circ. at the base. Top has been blown out but still battling on. When you look up through the cavity you see daylight out the top. This would have stood double the height of the rest of the forest before losing its head. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by TrevMcRev; 2nd March 2007 at 10:30 PM.

2nd March 2007, 10:15 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	That's huge, what sort of tree is it? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

2nd March 2007, 11:33 PM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	See, the tallest trees aren't in jungle or tropical rainforests they're in temperate forests where seasons are more defined with a dormancy period. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd March 2007, 08:34 AM	#7
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Our Mountain Ash is different, it's a Euc regnans. Bloody big still. In fact it was the tallest tree in the world till some genius back in the early 1900's cut it down to measure it. lol Tasmanian's, what did you expect. They got rid of all the Tasmanian Tigers, the biggest tree and I'll leave the other one alone. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd March 2007, 05:35 PM	#9
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Crown Reduction Pruning of Liquidambar Sorry, no before shot. Too busy getting organised Anyway, heres the finished job. Crown Reduction Pruning on a spreading Liquidambar. And a close up of yours truly! I like jobs like this Attached Thumbnails Last edited by TrevMcRev; 5th June 2009 at 02:22 PM.

3rd March 2007, 01:47 AM	#5
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 307	Great photos Trev. That's a monster tree. It looks like photos from the Pacific N/W USA.

3rd March 2007, 06:44 AM	#6
Mike Poor Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Urbana, IL,usa Posts: 69	What's the genus name for Mountain Ash? Here what we call mt. ash the genus is Sorbus and i know that lg. tree isn't Sorbus!

3rd March 2007, 01:46 PM	#8
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Beautiful Trev, really beautiful and that platform they built great work eliminate soil compaction but still let people touch the tree, really, really beautiful. SF

3rd March 2007, 07:37 PM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Is that the first time for that tree? How long do you reckon before it will need doing again? We got them up here and they a really vigorous, that one is only maybe half size to what they can get. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd March 2007, 07:42 PM	#11
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Those kinds of jobs are few and far between up here, and only come after much effort. Is your market better vis an appreciation of what arboriculture and Arborists can offer? SF

3rd March 2007, 07:49 PM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Hey Boa, I can honestly say that in almost 10 years I have never done a proper all round reduction like that for anyone. Around here it would have most likely been a topping, here's a pic of a Liquid Amber not far away and it shows how we treat ours .... Hey, I didn't do it either. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist Last edited by TrevMcRev; 22nd July 2009 at 11:41 PM.

3rd March 2007, 08:06 PM	#13
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Hey Ekka, check this I think the same mob did similar work up here, the tree is a Terminalia muelleri the brief was a reduction prune of one of the co-dominants..I told council I could climb up and remove timber about the diameter of my thumb.. The photos tell the tale, quess council didn't think much of my recomendation eh? Why the reduction home owner concerned about the chance of loosing branches in a storm....no chance of that now, but just you wait in 12 months time SF

3rd March 2007, 08:16 PM	#14
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 337	OMG!!! Ekka, that is bad. Alright, it's a bit close to the house, but from the piccy, couldn't they have just removed the lower limbs and drop crotched the crown. (How far away are those supply lines?) It could only have been another 15foot or so higher, before it was trashed, hay? I could post a load more piccy's of SH1t work like that from over here. But I get so P'd Off with having to look at them. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

3rd March 2007, 08:49 PM	#15
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,697	Toorak a good suburb to be getting some work! __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

4th March 2007, 10:22 AM	#18
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Beginning to really understand why Dan Thomas moved down there from Brissy, half your luck Trev would be a God send for me up here, the old forehead is pretty sore let me tell you. SF

4th March 2007, 10:36 AM	#19
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	50% of your work is stuff like that, that's great. About the only consistent pruning you'd get here (if ya cheap) is cleaning those stupid palms. 95%+ is TD's here. I haven't used my foot assist over a year now! Big shot is still the same rubber after 6 years. lol __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

5th March 2007, 08:36 PM	#20
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Not So Nice Neighbours! Not So Nice Neighbours! Homeowner: " So, what do you think is wrong with my Poplar tree?" Arborist: Looks like what we have here is a case of Bosch Borer. Homeowner: "Bosch Borer, what on earth is that?" Arborist: Well, it's similar to the Makita Borer, and usually caused by the Bunnings Beetle. Lets have a closer look shall we......... Yep, as i suspected, look at these borer holes, Bosch Borer allright. Homeowner: " So how did this happen" Arborist: Well the cunning little beetle that resides nextdoor went down to Bunnings and bought a Bosch drill and some round-up. Then during the night the beetle bores into the tree and injects its toxic venom. This beetle was so clever he even tried to fill the holes with dirt. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by TrevMcRev; 22nd July 2009 at 11:42 PM.

5th March 2007, 08:44 PM	#21
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	See, again, right on the fence-line. People get the shits with that big time, you want a tree then keep it in your own yard mate. Why have such a large tree so close to the fence in the first place? Although it's unacceptable to poison your neibs tree it is a solution that's very effective and darn hard to prosecute over. I know one customer dug down and found the roots of the neibs gum. He traced the root right down to these tiny little feeder hairy roots. (he was getting his house underpinned) He got a small bottle and filled it with round-up solution, nipped the end of the root off and the tree sucked it up good. When the bottle was empty he'd refill it. The bottle was maybe only 150ml medicine bottle. This went on for a week, within 4 weeks that entire 80' gum was dead, not a leaf on it. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

5th March 2007, 09:17 PM	#22
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Heres one of the bigger takedowns. This big euc uop in the dandenongs had tell tale bracket fungi indicating heartwood rot. Had to go. They've got plenty of other trees, although some are not much better. Big log hit the deck pretty hard n nearly took off down the hill. Check it out Attached Thumbnails

5th March 2007, 09:31 PM	#25
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Christ Trev you climb that sucker after seeing those brackets!!! Not sure I would have. Tell me you sounded it or cored it or something. SF

5th March 2007, 10:30 PM	#28
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	But as you climb and cut you feel a little more confident as you are reducing the weight, just keep the wobble factor down. Was a doozy, 170', atleast those regnans grow straight up not gnarl out everywhere. Awesome job, darn great leaving a mess too. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

1st April 2007, 07:56 PM	#29
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Heres a Radiata Pine we removed on Saturday. At a Preschool, beside 66KV powerlines, but well clear. Every branch was rigged. Done by 1pm. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by TrevMcRev; 22nd July 2009 at 11:45 PM.

1st April 2007, 09:14 PM	#30
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	The ever reliable and safe pine eh? Just that bloody resin gets like glue. So did you rig on the way up, or go up and set your blocks, or natural crotch or what? I thought I'd see a GRCS or equivalent strapped to that. Imagine that, if you cleared a track on the way up it would have been slew and winch heaven. And the chippers nice and close, they're the good jobs mate, how'd you go with the log? Chip it? Bin it? Slab it? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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