Total Tree Care's picture gallery

Eric Frei · 5th April 2007, 02:54 PM

Hey Boa, I do the same, sort of ... but with pubs.

Sean Freeman · 5th April 2007, 03:04 PM

Somehting I've noticed with Arb guys (and gals) is the ability to combine the two....its a real skill

Eric Frei · 5th April 2007, 06:04 PM

That's why they invented oudoor beer gardens.

TrevMcRev · 20th April 2007, 11:32 PM

Today the boys did some Crown Reduction/Cleaning on a decent size Scarlet Oak in Armadale. Would have been nice for the tree if it could wait another month or 2 but the client was 1/2 way through rendering the house and everything had to be dragged through a narrow sideway between the house & garage about to have final coat done. We spent 3 full days prior to this just clearing overgrown crap from the property. Sean & Dean climbed while Cam did his best to keep up on the ground. Came up well and ended the day with a Arb-B-Q & beers back at the TTC depot.

Some Pics before, during, and after;

mdvaden · 22nd April 2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeCo

Great photos Trev. That's a monster tree. It looks like photos from the Pacific N/W USA.

That's what I was thinking too.

What's the plant on the edge of the tree? Is it a type of fern? Looks big.

TrevMcRev · 22nd April 2007, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdvaden

That's what I was thinking too.

What's the plant on the edge of the tree? Is it a type of fern? Looks big.

Hi MD,

Its a Soft Tree Fern, Dicksonia antarctica. http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/forest/plants/soft.html

Sean Freeman · 16th June 2007, 02:29 PM

Trev whats doin with the Camperdown Elms? Hard to get any info from up here after 2006. Is the council proceeding with the removals or have they backed down?

For those not in the know follow the links
http://the.standard.net.au/articles/...205387107.html
http://the.standard.net.au/articles/...205470093.html
http://www.protectorsofpubliclandsvi...age%20Elms.htm

TrevMcRev · 23rd June 2007, 12:20 AM

Hey boa, havent been on here lately, busy times.

Dont know much more about this than you already do, but i do trust the consulting arborist Rob Galbraith as being on the right track with it all. He is one of Melbournes great arborists, (he must be coz he trained me!)

These trees are invaluable, and as Rob pointed out, many in city & suburban Melbourne havent fared well with the drought, very sad.

Sean Freeman · 23rd June 2007, 12:40 AM

Yeah Rob sure sounds like one of the good guys..trained you eh....must have the patience of a saint! (

)

I really hope the council see sense I've not been there but from all the pics I've seen I would sure like to take a walk down that avenue and get some pics of my own..maybe next time I'm down that way.

Glad to hear you've been busy, busy is good.

TrevMcRev · 17th July 2007, 09:49 PM

Drove past this beauty in my travels. Had actually seen it a few years earlier but forgot its location.

This is what you call building around a tree!

The tree a Corymbia(Euc.) citriodora is in Beaumaris, a bayside suburb with a good (rare!) covering of larger native vegetation. I wonder if this is the result of a fanatical tree owner, or a bunfight with the councils planning department.

Pity bout the bad cut on the one right over the roof though

Also love to know what went on around the base of the tree during construction!

Eric Frei · 17th July 2007, 09:54 PM

Looked a nice clean canopy, not stag headed like our drought gums, very full on the foliage.

It must be happy!

Jeff Darby · 17th July 2007, 10:14 PM

Hi Trev,
Good pictures mate,it's real shame they muffed the cut on the limb near the roof,lets hope it calous's over and does not set the tree back.Beutiful healthy Lemom Scented Gum

TrevMcRev · 17th July 2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Looked a nice clean canopy, not stag headed like our drought gums, very full on the foliage.

It must be happy!

Yeah suprising though, all things considered. Theres also a shipping container sitting on the root zone too!

Hili · 18th July 2007, 09:06 PM

Nice pics Trev, great to see some Melbourne pics and quality work.

Steve Tipton · 18th July 2007, 10:47 PM

Please keep an eye on it and show the probable deteriation in a year or two.

RC1 · 19th July 2007, 06:59 AM

Trev

That is a beautiful example of the species.

I must have worked on dozens of them when I was in Oz some years ago but never really took the time to appreciate them.

What is the life expectancy and also growth rate in terms of potential height and trunk diameter of the citriodora?

It does appear in this instance and from what I can remember, that they have a pretty sparce and open canopy. If a potential client is conerned about the size/safety of such a tree and can't be convinced otherwise, what type of pruning works would you recommend? Thanks

Reg

Eric Frei · 19th July 2007, 08:13 AM

A lot of euc species dont lend themselves to reduction pruning very well.

In many instances the target cut would be to another branch just as long as the one you are removing.

What is recommended a lot is thinning. However care must be taken not to lions tail the tree.

In my experience ideal thinning has to be done on the tips, thinning out the volume of foliage and smaller branches that comprise the foliage head of the branch. This usually has to be done out of a cherry picker as climbing to these tips is near impossible.

The idea being that the parachute on the end of those long lever arms is reduced, meaning less force in wind on the branch. Downfalls are that the tree replaces that foliage approx 3 to 5 years so has to be a regular practice, trees also only grow on the tips so those lever arms continue to extend. It's a tough call pruning eucs, sure the DDD part is easy but knowing what an appropriate dose of pruning is if req'd at all is another matter, in many instances nothing is OK!

Up here you can expect a good lemon scented gum to get 30m tall and trunk up to 1m dia. However they are not as abundant as other species and not that many around in suburbia.

TrevMcRev · 20th July 2007, 08:43 PM

The sizes ekka mentioned is about the same as down here, yet totally different climate, interesting.....

Pruning wise its a hard one. We do a lot of Weight Reduction Pruning of major lateral branches on Eucs and in most cases it can be done well if done right. Eucs structure & form amongst its many species varies greatly though, and the citriodora is i'd say the most difficult of all to achieve this on without the problems ekka mentioned. THe species tends to develop very over-extended laterals with small diameter/length ratio in maturity and often have failures in such branches due to the resultant leverage/end weight.

If you have suitable secondary branches closer in to shorten back to then you can make a difference but have to accept the secondary branches as not really been reduced in risk of failure themselves, but the major scaffolds have been.

Other Eucs, such as nicholii lend themselves quite well to Crown or Weight Reduction Pruning.

Hili · 21st July 2007, 11:01 AM

Was the tree there prior to the building of the house. Its a beautiful specimen (Minus the bad cut, what a shame). From the pictures it looks like it is in good health, but being so close to the house i am wondering how damaged the root plate got during the construction of the house. It looks as if the house is reasonably new and the rubbish skip in one of the pictures makes me think construction work had been done recently. They obviously built so close as they loved the citrodora, but have they dramaticly endangered the health of the specimen by building so close?

Eric Frei · 21st July 2007, 10:08 PM

I vote Trev drops in and gives them the link to this thread so they get the bloody shipping container off it's roots!

Hili · 22nd July 2007, 01:00 AM

Ill second that vote Ekka!

TrevMcRev · 7th August 2007, 10:52 PM

I got out with the boys today and had a bit of a climb myself.
I Deadwooded a Tulip Tree while Brad (new guy) took a few branches off the neighbs Plane Tree. We also removed a small damaged Prunus.

Next Job was a quickie, just some formative pruning on some small ornamental pears.

Then Removed Mistletoe & deadwood from a Silver Birch, Weight Reduced a few major laterals on a Lemon Scented Gum, and took a damaged leader out of a Liquidambar.

Pics of the trees at the 1st job inc my view of the Melbourne skyline from the office in the Tulip.

TrevMcRev · 7th August 2007, 11:09 PM

And ground out this bugger the other day. Took about 40 mins just to access it - thru 2 adjoining properties fences including a steep climb thru a vacant lot.

No prizes for guessing why it fell over...
Storm...NO
Act of God...NO
Gums are bad...NO

Homeowner excavated a 1.5 deep terrace into the soil profile only 1m away from the tree!

Roots and base had plenty of decay on that side!

Eric Frei · 8th August 2007, 01:07 AM

Great pics, nice work.

I like the fallen tree, just brilliant, they dont need all those side roots everyone knows they got a tap root!

TrevMcRev · 9th October 2007, 11:08 PM

Heres some of what we did today.

Back at one of our fave customers after a major failure in a poplar during strong winds on friday.

A large co-dom stem failed not at the union but midway due to decay.

We have already removed several closer to the house and this was due to go soon anyway.

When it came down it just hit her Flowering Cherry and split it at its little co-dom union.

So we put humpty back together, frankenstein style, with 3 rod braces and some cobra cable brace (without shock absorber) then took down the rest of the poplar.

Eric Frei · 10th October 2007, 12:06 AM

Crikey

People go to that trouble and expense to save that tiddler down there ... I'll be damned.

Cost a lot more than cutting it down, good on you!

Sean Freeman · 10th October 2007, 12:14 AM

Yes I second that Trev well done saving that little sweetie

TrevMcRev · 10th October 2007, 12:23 AM

It was a small part in the scheme of things. Taking down the big poplar was the main work, but about $350 was to save the cherry.

It only would have taken a minute to cut down, and if that were the case it was so small i wouldnt have even charged to while doing a $2.5K tree.

But what was important to the client was that the tree be saved if possible.

It had been split for about 5 days and no sign of foliage wilting. I think it will live and with support the structure should hold up. This makes it retainable untill decay from the wound becomes extensive. Which isn't a big concern as it will never be of the size or have a target to be a hazard tree.

We luurrve trees down here ekka!

pomme · 10th October 2007, 10:02 AM

some nice work there trev even recognised a few species. did you find the staff you were looking for. liked the melbourne view hope to see it myself before too long

Eric Frei · 10th October 2007, 07:34 PM

Hey Trev, pick me pick me .... just kidding.

5th April 2007, 02:54 PM	#61
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Hey Boa, I do the same, sort of ... but with pubs. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

5th April 2007, 06:04 PM	#63
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	That's why they invented oudoor beer gardens. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

20th April 2007, 11:32 PM	#64
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Today the boys did some Crown Reduction/Cleaning on a decent size Scarlet Oak in Armadale. Would have been nice for the tree if it could wait another month or 2 but the client was 1/2 way through rendering the house and everything had to be dragged through a narrow sideway between the house & garage about to have final coat done. We spent 3 full days prior to this just clearing overgrown crap from the property. Sean & Dean climbed while Cam did his best to keep up on the ground. Came up well and ended the day with a Arb-B-Q & beers back at the TTC depot. Some Pics before, during, and after; Attached Thumbnails

16th June 2007, 02:29 PM	#67
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Trev whats doin with the Camperdown Elms? Hard to get any info from up here after 2006. Is the council proceeding with the removals or have they backed down? For those not in the know follow the links http://the.standard.net.au/articles/...205387107.html http://the.standard.net.au/articles/...205470093.html http://www.protectorsofpubliclandsvi...age%20Elms.htm Last edited by Eric Frei; 16th June 2007 at 03:22 PM. Reason: fixed Boa's page stretching link

23rd June 2007, 12:40 AM	#69
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Yeah Rob sure sounds like one of the good guys..trained you eh....must have the patience of a saint! () I really hope the council see sense I've not been there but from all the pics I've seen I would sure like to take a walk down that avenue and get some pics of my own..maybe next time I'm down that way. Glad to hear you've been busy, busy is good.

5th April 2007, 03:04 PM	#62
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Somehting I've noticed with Arb guys (and gals) is the ability to combine the two....its a real skill

23rd June 2007, 12:20 AM	#68
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Hey boa, havent been on here lately, busy times. Dont know much more about this than you already do, but i do trust the consulting arborist Rob Galbraith as being on the right track with it all. He is one of Melbournes great arborists, (he must be coz he trained me!) These trees are invaluable, and as Rob pointed out, many in city & suburban Melbourne havent fared well with the drought, very sad.

17th July 2007, 09:49 PM	#70
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Spotted - not our work. Drove past this beauty in my travels. Had actually seen it a few years earlier but forgot its location. This is what you call building around a tree! The tree a Corymbia(Euc.) citriodora is in Beaumaris, a bayside suburb with a good (rare!) covering of larger native vegetation. I wonder if this is the result of a fanatical tree owner, or a bunfight with the councils planning department. Pity bout the bad cut on the one right over the roof though Also love to know what went on around the base of the tree during construction! Attached Thumbnails

17th July 2007, 09:54 PM	#71
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Looked a nice clean canopy, not stag headed like our drought gums, very full on the foliage. It must be happy! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th July 2007, 10:14 PM	#72
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Hi Trev, Good pictures mate,it's real shame they muffed the cut on the limb near the roof,lets hope it calous's over and does not set the tree back.Beutiful healthy Lemom Scented Gum __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

18th July 2007, 09:06 PM	#74
Hili Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 34	Nice pics Trev, great to see some Melbourne pics and quality work.

18th July 2007, 10:47 PM	#75
Steve Tipton Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 823	Please keep an eye on it and show the probable deteriation in a year or two.

19th July 2007, 06:59 AM	#76
RC1 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macclesfield England Posts: 196	Trev That is a beautiful example of the species. I must have worked on dozens of them when I was in Oz some years ago but never really took the time to appreciate them. What is the life expectancy and also growth rate in terms of potential height and trunk diameter of the citriodora? It does appear in this instance and from what I can remember, that they have a pretty sparce and open canopy. If a potential client is conerned about the size/safety of such a tree and can't be convinced otherwise, what type of pruning works would you recommend? Thanks Reg

19th July 2007, 08:13 AM	#77
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	A lot of euc species dont lend themselves to reduction pruning very well. In many instances the target cut would be to another branch just as long as the one you are removing. What is recommended a lot is thinning. However care must be taken not to lions tail the tree. In my experience ideal thinning has to be done on the tips, thinning out the volume of foliage and smaller branches that comprise the foliage head of the branch. This usually has to be done out of a cherry picker as climbing to these tips is near impossible. The idea being that the parachute on the end of those long lever arms is reduced, meaning less force in wind on the branch. Downfalls are that the tree replaces that foliage approx 3 to 5 years so has to be a regular practice, trees also only grow on the tips so those lever arms continue to extend. It's a tough call pruning eucs, sure the DDD part is easy but knowing what an appropriate dose of pruning is if req'd at all is another matter, in many instances nothing is OK! Up here you can expect a good lemon scented gum to get 30m tall and trunk up to 1m dia. However they are not as abundant as other species and not that many around in suburbia. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

20th July 2007, 08:43 PM	#78
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	The sizes ekka mentioned is about the same as down here, yet totally different climate, interesting..... Pruning wise its a hard one. We do a lot of Weight Reduction Pruning of major lateral branches on Eucs and in most cases it can be done well if done right. Eucs structure & form amongst its many species varies greatly though, and the citriodora is i'd say the most difficult of all to achieve this on without the problems ekka mentioned. THe species tends to develop very over-extended laterals with small diameter/length ratio in maturity and often have failures in such branches due to the resultant leverage/end weight. If you have suitable secondary branches closer in to shorten back to then you can make a difference but have to accept the secondary branches as not really been reduced in risk of failure themselves, but the major scaffolds have been. Other Eucs, such as nicholii lend themselves quite well to Crown or Weight Reduction Pruning.

21st July 2007, 11:01 AM	#79
Hili Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 34	Was the tree there prior to the building of the house. Its a beautiful specimen (Minus the bad cut, what a shame). From the pictures it looks like it is in good health, but being so close to the house i am wondering how damaged the root plate got during the construction of the house. It looks as if the house is reasonably new and the rubbish skip in one of the pictures makes me think construction work had been done recently. They obviously built so close as they loved the citrodora, but have they dramaticly endangered the health of the specimen by building so close?

21st July 2007, 10:08 PM	#80
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	I vote Trev drops in and gives them the link to this thread so they get the bloody shipping container off it's roots! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

22nd July 2007, 01:00 AM	#81
Hili Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 34	Ill second that vote Ekka!

7th August 2007, 10:52 PM	#82
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	I got out with the boys today and had a bit of a climb myself. I Deadwooded a Tulip Tree while Brad (new guy) took a few branches off the neighbs Plane Tree. We also removed a small damaged Prunus. Next Job was a quickie, just some formative pruning on some small ornamental pears. Then Removed Mistletoe & deadwood from a Silver Birch, Weight Reduced a few major laterals on a Lemon Scented Gum, and took a damaged leader out of a Liquidambar. Pics of the trees at the 1st job inc my view of the Melbourne skyline from the office in the Tulip. Attached Thumbnails

7th August 2007, 11:09 PM	#83
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	And ground out this bugger the other day. Took about 40 mins just to access it - thru 2 adjoining properties fences including a steep climb thru a vacant lot. No prizes for guessing why it fell over... Storm...NO Act of God...NO Gums are bad...NO Homeowner excavated a 1.5 deep terrace into the soil profile only 1m away from the tree! Roots and base had plenty of decay on that side! Attached Thumbnails

8th August 2007, 01:07 AM	#84
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Great pics, nice work. I like the fallen tree, just brilliant, they dont need all those side roots everyone knows they got a tap root! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

9th October 2007, 11:08 PM	#85
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Total Tree Care's picture gallery Heres some of what we did today. Back at one of our fave customers after a major failure in a poplar during strong winds on friday. A large co-dom stem failed not at the union but midway due to decay. We have already removed several closer to the house and this was due to go soon anyway. When it came down it just hit her Flowering Cherry and split it at its little co-dom union. So we put humpty back together, frankenstein style, with 3 rod braces and some cobra cable brace (without shock absorber) then took down the rest of the poplar. Attached Thumbnails

10th October 2007, 12:06 AM	#86
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Total Tree Care's picture gallery Crikey People go to that trouble and expense to save that tiddler down there ... I'll be damned. Cost a lot more than cutting it down, good on you! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

10th October 2007, 12:14 AM	#87
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Total Tree Care's picture gallery Yes I second that Trev well done saving that little sweetie

10th October 2007, 12:23 AM	#88
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Total Tree Care's picture gallery It was a small part in the scheme of things. Taking down the big poplar was the main work, but about $350 was to save the cherry. It only would have taken a minute to cut down, and if that were the case it was so small i wouldnt have even charged to while doing a $2.5K tree. But what was important to the client was that the tree be saved if possible. It had been split for about 5 days and no sign of foliage wilting. I think it will live and with support the structure should hold up. This makes it retainable untill decay from the wound becomes extensive. Which isn't a big concern as it will never be of the size or have a target to be a hazard tree. We luurrve trees down here ekka!

10th October 2007, 10:02 AM	#89
pomme Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 251	Re: Total Tree Care's picture gallery some nice work there trev even recognised a few species. did you find the staff you were looking for. liked the melbourne view hope to see it myself before too long

10th October 2007, 07:34 PM	#90
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Total Tree Care's picture gallery Hey Trev, pick me pick me .... just kidding. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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