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Old 2nd April 2007, 06:11 PM   #31
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So did you rig on the way up, or go up and set your blocks, or natural crotch or what?
I didnt climb this, but Sean set high points for himself and Rigging Sling & pulley, then dropped back down to the low stuff.

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I thought I'd see a GRCS or equivalent strapped to that. Imagine that, if you cleared a track on the way up it would have been slew and winch heaven.
Yeah, ive not bought one yet coz ive been meaning to make one for a while now........... Best get on with that!

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And the chippers nice and close, they're the good jobs mate, how'd you go with the log? Chip it? Bin it? Slab it?
Chipped up to about 14", high school next door took the 1 full load of mulch. Cut up logwood into 1/4's and was being taken by passersby from the naturestrip. Half gone before we finished
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Cut up logwood into 1/4's and was being taken by passersby from the naturestrip. Half gone before we finished
No shit! Man, how goods that, it's always a PITA for us to stuff around with the log. What are the Victorians gonna do with that pine log? Burn it?
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No shit! Man, how goods that, it's always a PITA for us to stuff around with the log. What are the Victorians gonna do with that pine log? Burn it?

Yep, if clients dont mind, and want to save a few bucks, we leave wood on the naturestrip. Almost anything will get taken nearly the same day if you cut it up to manageable pieces. They fight over any gum, and you'll often score a slab o from whoever you let take it

When we have to take it away we either just chip the lot (18" ) or dump back out front of our depot. We're on a main Rd so everyone knows its the place to get mulch and wood.

You'll at this though. One day we did a Palm amongst some other stuff and threw the blocks in the back with other mulch. Normally we'd take this to a greenwaste tip, but the guys tipped it out front. I'm thinking "Oh great, now we gotta pick that all up again" Next day it was gone

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they trying to light that fire!
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A nice day spent today pruning in a local Pre School. Weight Reduction on 3 X Eucalyptus, 1 Angophora and 1 Salix. Adjusted the Cable system in the willow whist up there.

We've been looking after the trees here for about 5 years now.

The Ang. has only had minor W/Red previously, went a bit harder this time as they had a recent branch failure (fairly minor low lateral).



The Eucs are being attacked by Cockys in some of the main forks, along with the w/red pruning we are monitoring the damage/decay.



The Willow has been w/red a few times. We previously installed some cobra bracing on a 4 way ring system. This was done using a rated crane rigging ring and eye spliced 4 seperate spans out to the main stems attached in the normal way.






Ps. Ekka, just to rub it in, i used my Pantin today
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Nice lookin trees.

I haven't really properly cabled a tree in my life ever!

Can you show more of that, perhaps start a thread on cabling? I'd like to see how the four of those get put on etc.

I've done some tape and rope ones, more of a fall arrest but nothing serious, no-one desires it here, and I have never ever had a call for it in 10 years!

Oh, what's the price of firewood down there, per 1m3 or ton etc?

And the trees in that schools look real nice, good to see they care for them well. Over here you'd be shocked, many topped, bad! Was that a private or public school?
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Old 2nd April 2007, 09:01 PM   #36
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Nice work with the cobra Trev , Daniel Oaten is the only guy I've seen use cobra in Qld (Sherwood Arboretum), though I'm sure Adam has done some too.

I've seen some complicated set ups but that four way looks nicely balanced.

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[QUOTE=Ekka;3075]Nice lookin trees.

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I haven't really properly cabled a tree in my life ever!

Can you show more of that, perhaps start a thread on cabling? I'd like to see how the four of those get put on etc.
Will do, I've used over 350m of cobra.

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Oh, what's the price of firewood down there, per 1m3 or ton etc?
$100 - $150 for dry split redgum. We give away most wood. If i had a big yard I'd store and sell mulch and wood. But then you need someone there all the time, a splitter, a loader etc. Got enough to do as it is.

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And the trees in that schools look real nice, good to see they care for them well. Over here you'd be shocked, many topped, bad! Was that a private or public school?
Yeah its good. They have a few big shade sails beneath the eucs to catch small dead branches etc.
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Nice work with the cobra Trev , Daniel Oaten is the only guy I've seen use cobra in Qld (Sherwood Arboretum), though I'm sure Adam has done some too.

I've seen some complicated set ups but that four way looks nicely balanced.

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Took a bit to get it right. Set each leg on the ring then hauled up the ring using 3 rigging points to put it in the middle of all the stems. Locked off the lines then set each leg out onto its stem. Several adjustments later and it came out pretty good.
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Heres some Monterey Cypress among other trees we are managing at a large historic site on the peninsula.

These things were a real mess, riddled with dead/broken/end heavy branches.





6 days flat out pruning and 24 truck loads of mulch later........







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WOW what an avenue How old do you reckon the tree are (is the planting date known?) They look under 100yrs but I could be way off.

Did you decide on the pruning specs for the client? Don't you just love jobs like that, I have one at the school where I used to work years ago d/w removal and formative work as well as risk assessments annually (till the next Principal decides to reinvent the wheel!!)

Great pics Trev

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They do look good when theyve been cleaned out,time consuming work.

Good work!
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The 90ha sites beginnings date to 1852 as a quarantine station then became an army base. It is Commonwealth Heritage Listed. The major plantings of Cypress & some Moreton Bay Figs are thought to be 1880-1890. There are also many original remnant Moonah Trees that pre-date settlement.


There are some more recent Eucs about and other stuff not particullarly significant.

I consulted on and spec'd the site first and are working through it in stages of priority. Churned out a very brief 50 page report just covering the basics for now. Tough thing is there are some trees here that should be removed (or access restricted) but they wont budge on that one.

Theres 1 Cypress here that is the biggest ive seen including Melb RBG.
Need a pic of something in front of it to give perspective. Lost a whole memory card of pics from this site

Not this one below, he's little....


...Compared to grand daddy here.


He has an old steel cable on this low biggy, i took lotsa weight out of the end but recommend we engineer a prop rather than have this fail. Dont want to see the damage it would do to the trunk. See the pre-existing fracture.
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Bigger than the one at RBG Melb, now thats saying something.

I asked Kiah what the go was with all the steel cables in that old boy at the gardens and she told me that it was mostly a result of students completing arb studies, rather than the tree being on the verge of total self destruction.

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Bigger than the one at RBG Melb, now thats saying something.

I asked Kiah what the go was with all the steel cables in that old boy at the gardens and she told me that it was mostly a result of students completing arb studies, rather than the tree being on the verge of total self destruction.

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Yeah, thats Cable City that thing

We did our ArbSchool tree ID there and went there to look at cabling examples for assignments but did the installations at another park.

Mustnt have been any stems left in that one
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Hey Trev, have you been there in the last few months? In the oak garden area there was an oak with a small number of upper limbs hazard taped last year, wondered what if anything has happened there
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Hey Trev, have you been there in the last few months? In the oak garden area there was an oak with a small number of upper limbs hazard taped last year, wondered what if anything has happened there
Went there with the wifey a few months ago and did see that. LOL It looked to me like someone set it up for some throwline practice. Tape was each side of crotches in a few places. Probly Kiah training for competitions!
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You know thinking bout it you're probably right LOL... would have asked her about it but I bugged her so much about the Golden Elm at Punt Rd / Alex Parade that i really came down to see that I didn't have the heart to ask about the tape

(that Elm is one of (of many) the best trees in Oz)
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Great tree work Trev.

Great photos too.

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You know thinking bout it you're probably right LOL... would have asked her about it but I bugged her so much about the Golden Elm at Punt Rd / Alex Parade that i really came down to see that I didn't have the heart to ask about the tape

(that Elm is one of (of many) the best trees in Oz)
Yeah cool tree that one , great to picnic under the canopy of if you could just get rid of the bloody traffic for 5 minutes.
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Great pics Trev,

I feel like packing up and pissing off from hack city ASAP.

Cypress mulch hey, big demand, recommended by many landscapers for it's termite resistant qualities.
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Wow! Great work on those cleans on the Moneterey's Trev, they look great.

With the cobra bracing, on the 4 stems - how is the cobra line attached to the stem as in with webbing etc?
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Yeah cool tree that one , great to picnic under the canopy of if you could just get rid of the bloody traffic for 5 minutes.

I actually drove right past that tree today doing my quoting rounds but didnt have time to stop for a pic. Will do so next time & post it up for others to see, unless o'course the PDF King already has some handy.......................
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I feel like packing up and pissing off from hack city ASAP.
Whoa, easy there partner, this town aint big enuff for the both of us
(better if that were a cowboy smilie!) Joke!

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Cypress mulch hey, big demand, recommended by many landscapers for it's termite resistant qualities.
The groundskeeper down there is slowly returning the mulch to the base of these trees 12 months later.
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Wow! Great work on those cleans on the Moneterey's Trev, they look great.

With the cobra bracing, on the 4 stems - how is the cobra line attached to the stem as in with webbing etc?
Thanks!

The part that joins the stem has a plastic spreader inserted to flatten it out and a anti friction sheath over it then is passed around the stem and secured with a self-girth-adjusting splice as per normal Cobra atttachment.

Stay tuned for a new thread on Cobra Bracing.
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I actually drove right past that tree today doing my quoting rounds but didnt have time to stop for a pic. Will do so next time & post it up for others to see, unless o'course the PDF King already has some handy.......................
Trev, as I said I went all the way to Melbourne to see this tree....oh yeah there was some tree arby conference or something as well

These shots were taken just as she was putting on new leaf, so she looks quite beautiful, I won't bore everyone but to me having seen Dutch Elm disease destroy thousands of elms in Europe (I actually learnt to use a chainsaw removing 100 elms in Nth Derbyshire aged 15 in the late 70's) this Golden Elm brought tears to my eyes, your right Trev the traffic is very near but when you sit under her canopy I swear I heard no cars.

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It still looked pretty well full leaf (but not for long) so if i'm that way in the next few days i stop for some snaps for ya!
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OK, please explain to me what the go is with the importance of that tree, the location and why those limbs are dragging on the ground?

Like, they obviously weren't on the ground for ever and then they're allowed to be like that?????

Not that there's anything wrong but why?
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This tree is arguably one of the best examples of its species in Oz, taking into consideration its location I'd argue it probably one of the most significant examples of its species in any major city anywhere. Here's the link to the entry in the significant tree register...not much detail..http://www.nattrust.com.au/trust_reg...abra_lutescens

The Golden Elm has been extensively worked on over the past 10yrs by a number of Arborists and the Council, the elongated limbs are classic for glabra lutescens and always pose a management problem, in this case the council have very sensibly placed low bollards with chain around the dripline of the tree and mulched the rootplate with good quality old woodchips.
Shots I've seen from 10yrs back show the tree in a poor state, so the improvement in its health and vigour is promising.
Structural damage has occured to one side of the canopy and in 2006 deadwood and hangers over the edge of the footpath had not been remediated. In the attached photos you'll see three way cabling (steel not cobra) to presumably prevent further break outs on that side, and some props have been placed under two large secondary limbs to prevent significant tearing of the stem unions in the event of a failure.

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My interest in the Golden Elm was originally raised by the book Tree Stories, some of you might have it or have read it. Just the way the local community of that particular corner of Punt Rd and Alexander Parade over the years have fought for the tree really moved me, and I don't regret the 3 mile walk to find it.
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Agreed with all Boa said.

This is how the species would develop naturally. Its rare to find one that hasnt been buggered with to fit in with humans needs/wants for clear space.
Once you remove those low branches, the next layer above are more likely to fail. I believe theres a bit of "teamwork" amongst the canopy, protecting each other etc.

at Boa, 3hr walk! Its not that far from anywhere if ya know where your going!
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Trev there's more streets around Victoria Market than the whole of Townsville! (Well ok thats an exaggeration )

I walked through RBG and that took probably 5 hrs wandering around photographing, wandering around sitting under elms and oaks, wandering around sitting under more elms and ashes......you get the idea. Tim the best groundie in Qld, who was down with me from Townsville must have thought I was nuts, don't think he's walked for so long to get so little distance..though he too was impressed by my golden girl
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